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Author Topic: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?  (Read 49541 times)

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #255 on: March 16, 2017, 06:21:02 AM »
I follow you on those words NR..Info is treacherous, because researchers don't give easy answers and units of propaganda gatekeepers have layed their traps, many countries I believe understood how easy it is to trick layman who seeks infinite energy. This is to be expected tho...

But it appears that Innova device appears to be real?

You lost me there...

It appears to be fake from all standards of reason. I just continue to believe in it because I am optimistic and persistent, but I really  shouldn't.

And IKNOWNOTHING, isn't tipping the scales for me at least.

But I'm curious, what circuit and setting caused your claimed injury or illness. Can you show the circuit or setting?

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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #256 on: March 16, 2017, 08:36:24 AM »
Almost all info is inaccurate or misleading. No one gives real info either out of fear or greed.

I have seen real principles to be disclosed only in two pages on net as abstract principles. I know of some people who are very competent but who do not bother about forums. It appears that This innovo machine is real. It also appears that Don Smith had a working device but it produced extremely inimical radiation and so was sort of banned. Any device that uses open core is said to produce inimical radiation. All of this hearsay only. So you can ignore it if you wish.

Here People do not do real experiments. They tend to think electronics can replace electrical machines. Pray tell me which electric generator is small. I have not put magnetic shielding and that's the reason for my problems. Even a bicycle dynamo has magnetic shielding. I will need another six to 9 months of rest and recuperation to again do these experiments. Assuming that I have recovered and then continue to have the desire. Puny proof of concept devices will not work.

Let me take leave now. Thanks

Respectfully

Ramaswami

Hi Ramaswami ,
Is real sad hear about your health problems , myself suffer some of this problems last year when i conducted some tests in one of the devices i made . Not only me affected but all people in the building where i  run the device . I'm almost full recover , but yes several months to recover from , permanently Migraines, intestine problems, problems to walk and even tumor .  I able to measure high values of radiation (about 300┬ÁSv)
from this device and seems this radiation could not be blocked even by normal shielding like aluminum foil , high freq mesh , wood etc.
The important is that you should know that i able to recover my healthy by balance again the Electrolyte of body  with Pink Malaysian Salt .
I'm healthy again , and i stop work in that device in particular . Maybe you could give a try ;) even if you are a skeptic about this theme .
I see many many people play with fire, without know the real dangers beside in some type of experiments.  I just could figure out that you deal in your system with low freq coils Hz when you get sick , and when i refer to low freq i include even higher freq in range of kz caused by harmonics when coils collapsing because the secret is how strong you punch this coils.
You problem for sure is a problem of unbalanced ions in your body  . You could give a try to recover your condition .

About  innovo machine i wonder why no one ask the reason to the unity use a bank of batteries 36v 40A inside the machine , and when you sign the contract to buy the machine you must agree not open the device under 5 years . That machine after start working  capture static electricity that is used to recharge the batteries again ,  and that is very nice but need have the batteries to store what is collected or  ... in Supercaps ;)

Hope your health change fast .

Compliments

Nelson Rocha




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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #257 on: March 16, 2017, 02:56:31 PM »
Did you ever calculate how little energy in electrostatic form can be collected? It's in the Wh range, not kWh.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #259 on: March 16, 2017, 03:14:56 PM »
I am grateful for the kind words and please pm me on the ion balancing method and I will check it.

Regarding what caused the health problem I think it is lack of magnetic shielding coupled with high intensity magnetic field conditions. Shielding was attempted and then avoided due to high heat it caused. We did not encounter any problem to others except me who remained near the tested devices. Highly intense magnetic field could be felt up to four to six feet away from the large  electromagnets and not shielding them caused the problems. We did not have any equipment nor do we think we had radiation problems. No problem to neighbours. Low frequency high intensity magnetic field conditions caused problems. I have not maintained records of various experiments I conducted. Neither in paper nor in computer. But I remember that AC had problems of merging of voltage unless many conditions are met and pulsed dc had problems of high current drawn at source at higher voltages which wires could not handle. But I have not desired to remember all those things that caused me problems of health and so I had forgotten the exact details.

No idea on how the innovo machine construction. I have heard from a source I trust thats real. Nothing more. I have no specific information.

Regards

Ramaswami

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #259 on: March 16, 2017, 03:14:56 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #260 on: March 16, 2017, 03:26:33 PM »
These white spots is COPPER WIRE SUBMERSED WITH 90% CAUSTIC SODA AND 10 POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE or only CAUSTIC SODA ?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #261 on: March 16, 2017, 04:25:13 PM »
These white spots is COPPER WIRE SUBMERSED WITH 90% CAUSTIC SODA AND 10 POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE or only CAUSTIC SODA ?

What will this combination do or create?

Luc

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #261 on: March 16, 2017, 04:25:13 PM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #262 on: March 16, 2017, 05:13:58 PM »
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What will this combination do or create?

Perhaps dip copper wire coil in caustic soda. This is only a possibility.


Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #263 on: March 16, 2017, 11:07:41 PM »
Did you ever calculate how little energy in electrostatic form can be collected? It's in the Wh range, not kWh.

The question should not be how little energy in electrostatic form can be collected ,and converted
 into useful work .The electrostatic energy could be created With a specific objective to avoid some limitations of normal electric current :) to produce
a special event in the system , maybe ....

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #264 on: March 17, 2017, 07:34:25 AM »
nelson


Electrostatic produced by beta-radiation ?

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #264 on: March 17, 2017, 07:34:25 AM »
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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #265 on: March 17, 2017, 10:45:14 AM »
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to produce
a special event in the system , maybe ....

Heavy distortion/warping of the Aether so it can release its energy into the system? Maybe.

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #266 on: March 17, 2017, 12:04:54 PM »
nelson


Electrostatic produced by beta-radiation ?

Hi Forest ,  i will put a video link that is not mine but maybe can answer your question or even make you think more deeply in that point that you talk.

The test video is from TeslaSpot 101 channel ( Thanks TeslaSpot 101 by your work )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTYeyjUZYB8&t=5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0f3NV_OohQ


cheers


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #267 on: March 17, 2017, 08:45:30 PM »
/#msg501959]Quote from: r2fpl on March 16, 2017, 03:26:33 PM[/url]<blockquote>These white spots is COPPER WIRE SUBMERSED WITH 90% CAUSTIC SODA AND 10 POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE or only CAUSTIC SODA ?
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What will this combination do or create?

Luc 
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This contamination of the wire is called Doping the wire and it permits the Hole Theory of electricity to operate...essentially the negative electrons flow around the wire from positive to negative, ie, cold electricity. Keshe uses this doping technique.

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #268 on: March 19, 2017, 06:37:36 PM »
Okay, back to Ontopic posts...

A member of this forum did send me this email and did not want to be mentioned...
and as InnovaTehno did not contact me again with any excuse, why they did not ship the
ordered device to me, it looks rather like a scam...as they now want money in advance and
I highly recommend not to pay anything in advance...

Now also Gaia has posted that they want to work together with Innova and that puts red flags also on it,
as we still know them from the Faked AUKW KPP story...where many users lost all their money...
https://gaia-energy.org/unser-treffen-mit-innovatehno-in-kroatien/

Here is the email:
after 1 month of trying to meet and contact inovatehno my friend from croatia finaly met them and this is what he wrote after meeting with them:)

First, they drived as around zagreb for 1 hour
FIrst address (from website)
Second address
Arrived there, bussiness zone, lot of small companies, no sign of innova
we called again, someone shady opened door... asking how can he help, we told that were looking for innova and have apotintment
He almost throw us out why we didnt ask him that nicely
 
he apparently was some kind mafia style security


 When we entered some kind of office he went somewhere
  Only one blonde older women accepted us
 office 2-3 metters with some big box, their first product probably
  wooden frame
  there were around only empty rooms around place where we were
  no sign that we were at innova
  she said they moved 2 weeks ago
  ok i know that
 She didnt tell any technical world from hers mouth in 30 minutes, and said she have new meeting and we must go
 No any kind of presentation or anything
 i saw PCB of product, its 2x VFD driver
  They are using AC DC AC techique
 Said they are starting production in Australia, CZ, ukrain, cro, Canada
  Investement arrived and nothing else
  i said i have investor from CH, he have oped hands to invest up to 14 mil euro
  whats true, she wasnt interested at all
 Just saying send mail, with questions we will try to help and make it happen
  Never seen fucked up company like this
 if tesla started like this, there wouldnt be any future
 Real working prototype should be ready in around 3 months, who knows
ME: so they showed u something or nothing?
  Nothing, in room was only wooden frame with first prototype i guess, probably that one from video
  some lamps on it, 2x VFD drivers
  1 controler board from 1990year , with pic i think
  1 layer board
  she didnt know how to start it, she fucked out my question
  i couldnt make picture, she didnt allow
 of that unit
 this is not way making bussines
  1 man company or 10 man company, whatever
  from my experience, what usually happens in croatia
  they take money and vanish


if this is office i am retard
2 story building
this is office with proto on left upper side
with bars
inside everything empty
this looks like "rent a fake office"
if you had 1 million of investement, will u rent something like this
everything shady about it
i will send 1 email from protonmail
with bait, that i have all their conv and emails and i will tell world what are they doing
will se what they will say


if they start arguing with me, its fake
if nobody answers maybe there is something about it


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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
« Reply #269 on: March 19, 2017, 10:07:46 PM »
I posted back at xmas in live streaming thread -

Its a qmogen in fancy dress!

Merry Xmas

Regards

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Re: InnovaTehno.eu Free Energy Device - a big Fake or the real thing ?
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