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Author Topic: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)  (Read 34704 times)

itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2016, 11:19:31 AM »

Thanks TGH,

i will use a fixed 1M resistor  and see how low i can go using my bench PS.

I have reduced the frequency using the potmeter from 50Hz to 12.5Hz (it locks in at 50, 25 and 12.5Hz) and overnight the voltage stayed stable at 2.543V.
I will measure the potmeter to see what value it has now.


Seeing your signals would be nice for comparing, so if possible, yes, please try so.


Regards Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2016, 09:33:35 PM »

I measured the potmeter resistance in the 2.5V @ 12Hz position and it was 78K.

When substituting the potmeter for a fixed 1M (1.02M) the frequency dropped to 1Hz depending on what led was in.
So i had to increase the voltage again (4x AA = 5.090V) to get a 7Hz frequency.

I will let it run again overnight.

Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2016, 04:02:21 AM »
Okay, sounds good. I'll get those waveforms.
My 1Mohm pot  was actually .8M real resistance so that's what I'm using now since I don't have any 1M resistors on hand.
Maybe a .8Kohm resistor would work better then 1M.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2016, 03:48:46 PM »

No increase overnight, instead i lost 1 mV, so now at 5.089V.

Adjusted my potmeter to be 800K and put back instead of the fixed 1M resistor.
Frequency went up to 8Hz, so i will leave it again running (8Hz @ 5.089V).....
 

Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2016, 11:28:21 AM »

This morning the voltage has dropped to 5.087V.

Still waiting for those tantalum caps, which could make the difference??

Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #35 on: November 09, 2016, 11:14:13 AM »

I installed a 39uF tantalum capacitor instead of the 470nF poly.
The frequency did not deviate much.

After 2 days running i have 5.085V in the batteries, so 2mV lower.

Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2016, 07:50:13 PM »
I installed a 39uF tantalum capacitor instead of the 470nF poly.
The frequency did not deviate much.

After 2 days running i have 5.085V in the batteries, so 2mV lower.

Itsu
Sorry I haven't been posting lately, I've been busy.
About the MV loss. Why don't you try the circuit the way you had it to start with when you had voltage gain

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2016, 07:51:29 PM »
Sorry I haven't been posting lately, I've been busy.
About the MV loss. Why don't you try the circuit the way you had it to start with when you had voltage gain
I'm still working on getting a oscope

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2016, 09:04:18 PM »


TGH,

no problem, i have it running here at the side, so take your time.

I believe te earlier voltage gain seen was due to the battery chemistry.
When you load a battery, which i did during the first tests were i had to find the correct coil connections etc., the voltage will rise momentarily when the load dissappears or decreases.

After a while the voltage will stabilize again and will drop under the minimized load as it does now.

So either i did not find the correct setup yet, or you also suffer(ed) from this battery effect.


Regards Itsu



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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2016, 04:01:05 AM »

TGH,

no problem, i have it running here at the side, so take your time.

I believe te earlier voltage gain seen was due to the battery chemistry.
When you load a battery, which i did during the first tests were i had to find the correct coil connections etc., the voltage will rise momentarily when the load dissappears or decreases.

After a while the voltage will stabilize again and will drop under the minimized load as it does now.

So either i did not find the correct setup yet, or you also suffer(ed) from this battery effect.


Regards Itsu
You must not have found the correct setup yet, but I feel your getting close. Specific coils will only work.
Your voltage gain was the start of something, I have that same voltage gain but it keeps on going. Here's a link to a video I made awhile back showing some of that. http://youtu.be/Nz04HKLBrYU
Note: That's my original circuit just moved to a different prototype board, also the 1.5v battery you see in the box is not connected at the moment.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2016, 10:49:14 AM »

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You must not have found the correct setup yet, but I feel your getting close. Specific coils will only work.
Your voltage gain was the start of something, I have that same voltage gain but it keeps on going. Here's a link to a video I made awhile back showing some of that. http://youtu.be/Nz04HKLBrYU
Note: That's my original circuit just moved to a different prototype board, also the 1.5v battery you see in the box is not connected at the moment.


Thanks TGH,

i kind of expected you to say that  ;)


In the mean time i have changed the FWBR into a 4x UF4007 setup, but no behaviour change noticed, the voltage has dropped to 5.084V these past days.

I will make little changes in the setup keeping the batteries as undisturbed as possible to avoid false voltage changes.

By the way, your video says "private", so you need to change it into "hidden" or so for me to view it.

Regards Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2016, 04:31:18 PM »

Thanks TGH,

i kind of expected you to say that  ;)


In the mean time i have changed the FWBR into a 4x UF4007 setup, but no behaviour change noticed, the voltage has dropped to 5.084V these past days.

I will make little changes in the setup keeping the batteries as undisturbed as possible to avoid false voltage changes.

By the way, your video says "private", so you need to change it into "hidden" or so for me to view it.

Regards Itsu
Thanks, I changed the video listing to unlisted. You should be able to watch it

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2016, 10:45:27 AM »

Thanks, i could see it now.
There you used a lithium type of battery and common mode choke of which i have used a similar one.

Not sure why the difference, i could try a lithium battery too, but doubt it wil change much.

Regards Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2016, 04:12:40 PM »
TGH,

i noticed in your video that you seem to use a 9-led configuration for your led which did not show any output.
As you probably know, a led will produce some voltage when in bright light, so the inverse of what a led normally does.
With 9 leds you could see some notable voltage (>100mV).

Did you run your setup in the dark?  And if so does the voltage still rise?


Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2016, 09:24:41 PM »
As you probably know, a led will produce some voltage when in bright light, so the inverse of what a led normally does.
With 9 LEDs you could see some notable voltage (>100mV).
Excellent reminder!
I knew it but I forgot about it