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Author Topic: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)  (Read 13188 times)

Offline TheGeneralHackr

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LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« on: October 29, 2016, 05:57:07 AM »
I have posted before about this device probably about 3 years ago (in the over unity section), and along that time my progress on this circuit has been at a partial standstill.
The device if you didn't already know produces more voltage out then in (loaded I might add), it is a minimal voltage increase (at 1.5v) but its noticeably. Rises by a couple mv every day or so after the initial high voltage gain (of about 50mv).
That small mv gain is all at 1.5v input, but what if you raise the voltage? I raised the input voltage to 35VDC and within 5 hours the voltage gained by 2 volts, after that it slowed down.
That is a bit of the research I did into the circuit, I also currently have the voltage gaining while blinking 40 LEDs.

Anyhow off the topic of that, I just recently went back over all the responses of the original lcap post and there are many great points added, but I noticed no one was able to replicate the result I had and its due to me writing the wrong schematic. I've been replicating these circuits off of memory but when I tried to replicate them off my own schematic they didn't work.
So here is a updated parts list and schematic, scope shots and some replications I'm working on.
Parts List
2N2222A (Others work but not as well, I've tried 2N3904, 2N4401, 2N3055 and they work but not great)
0.47 uf Tantalum Capacitor
1Mohm Potentiometer (Mine measured 870 kOhm)
LED (Measuring 1-3 Mohm in reverse Bias)
1 to 1 Transformer (I have only had two coils work so far, the one I'm using now came from a Dell computer power supply. I have the Model no Somewhere)
1Kohm 1/4 Watt resistor
KBP307 Bridge Rectifier (Shown in Picture, May be listed on schematic)


Hopefully this information can be used to build a successfull replica.

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Offline TheGeneralHackr

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016, 02:08:40 AM »
Bridge rectifier was wrote wrong here is the good schematic.


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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016, 09:43:34 AM »
The "AC to + diode" creates a short.
This device will most likely not work.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2016, 10:10:42 AM »
The "- to AC diode" blocks the emitter flow to the negative pole of the battery.


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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 11:20:43 AM »

TGH,

after your last FWBR modification i got it to work (kind of).
I had to reverse the led and i had to also connect the emitter to minus (-)
My AC leads are reversed versus your diagram.
I am using 2x AA rechargeables, at 2.4V for the moment.

The collector signal is shown in the screenhot below.

Using a 470nF poly cap, so no tantalum.

Voltage slowly dropping on the batteries........


Regards Itsu
 

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 11:20:43 AM »
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Offline TheGeneralHackr

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 04:00:39 PM »
TGH,

after your last FWBR modification i got it to work (kind of).
I had to reverse the led and i had to also connect the emitter to minus (-)
My AC leads are reversed versus your diagram.
I am using 2x AA rechargeables, at 2.4V for the moment.

The collector signal is shown in the screenhot below.

Using a 470nF poly cap, so no tantalum.

Voltage slowly dropping on the batteries........


Regards Itsu
 
Yes, it should be grounded before the bridge and at the emitter of the transistor.
There should be 1-3Mohm resistance on the base, even if its not a led.
Your frequency is too high, I had around that same frequency in the scope shots but that was only when the circuit was running "wide open" The frequency should be around 5hz-10hz when the potentiometer is cranked up to 1 Mohm, you should hear a audible clicking sound. It should be around 5-10hz
If moving the pot up to 1 Mohm doesn't help try removing the 470nf and the potentiometer temporarily and replacing them with a single 470uf 16 volt electrolytic capacitor. (You should hear the clicking sound I'm talking about for around 10 seconds before it fades off)

Here are the images on how I connected the emitter to the ground and bridge rectifier.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2016, 04:53:22 PM »


TGH,

your images are way to big, please shrink them down first using paint or so,  thanks.


oK, new screenshot shows a 12Hz signal which can be lowered (or raised) somewhat using the 1M potmeter.

The white led is visible blinking now (12Hz)

Batteries voltage is stable at 2.513V, slightly climbing, probably due to earlier heavier load.

The LED needs to be opposite as to what your diagram shows, else it won't work.

I will continue to monitor the batteries voltage......

Regards Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 08:33:33 PM »

Batteries voltage at 2.525V and still climbing slowly.........

Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2016, 10:39:17 PM »
Batteries voltage at 2.525V and still climbing slowly.........

Itsu
Excellent I'm glad you got it to work. 12hz sounds about spot on.
If you raise the input voltage the voltage will climb faster in the long run

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2016, 10:23:28 AM »

I left the circuit running overnight with a voltage of 2.528V, and this morning it was at 2.534V and seems to be stable now.

I will keep it undisturbed for the rest of the day.

I have a supercapacitorbank (100F at 15V) which i will "fill" to 5V and let it run from that for a while as a next step.


Regards Itsu

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2016, 04:56:05 PM »
I left the circuit running overnight with a voltage of 2.528V, and this morning it was at 2.534V and seems to be stable now.

I will keep it undisturbed for the rest of the day.

I have a supercapacitorbank (100F at 15V) which i will "fill" to 5V and let it run from that for a while as a next step.


Regards Itsu
As long as the super capacitor bank has a low leakage current it should work. I've tried 2.3V 100 Farad cap and the circuit can't produce enough energy to overcome the leakage current.
At least that's my theory
 Thanks Adam

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2016, 05:28:40 PM »

Good to know TGH, it seems so at my setup to (to much leakage current).


After another day, the voltage with the 2x AA batteries was stable at 2.536V, so in 24 Hours it raised from 2.513 to 2.536 = 23mV.
I believe this rising was due to some chemical process in these batteries.

I "filled" my supercapbank to 6V and attached to the circuit.
The voltage started to drop immediately but i will leave it to run overnight again.

Video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SitWMhrKm_w


Regards itsu
 


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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2016, 06:52:36 PM »
Guys,

A capcoil has been already tried.  Why don't you try a coil in a capacitor, too ?
...a cored coil, of course, so the electric field of the cap can work on the core.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 08:54:08 PM »

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A capcoil has been already tried

i did not realize we had a capcoil here, you do not mean these 2 vertical lines inside the transformer coils?   ;D

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Why don't you try a coil in a capacitor, too ?

like in Vladimir Utkin his paper, here somewere:  http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm


Anyway, the supercaps voltage is still decreasing, its now at 5.559V., so i will stop this as it seems pointless to continue.
Instead i have installed 4x AA recharcheables with a voltage of 5.094V...........
 

Itsu


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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 01:59:35 AM »
i did not realize we had a capcoil here, you do not mean these 2 vertical lines inside the transformer coils?   ;D

like in Vladimir Utkin his paper, here somewere:  http://www.free-energy-info.com/Utkin.htm


Anyway, the supercaps voltage is still decreasing, its now at 5.559V., so i will stop this as it seems pointless to continue.
Instead i have installed 4x AA recharcheables with a voltage of 5.094V...........
 

Itsu

With 5 volts it should rise about 2 to 3 times the voltage of the 2.5v in the same amount of time.
I don't know if you have noticed yet but as you increase the voltage the frequency increases, I'm thinking that may be the reason the voltage climbs faster?  (And the added voltage)
Ex- 1.5V 10hz
      3V 13hz
      6V 18hz
(I'm just guessing the 3V and 6V since I don't have a oscope but you get the point)
What's odd about the frequency is if you try and up the frequency while at a specified voltage ex 1.5V 10hz to 1.5V 20Hz the voltage will drop instead of gain.

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Re: LCAP (Again) Possible Free Energy. (Voltage Gain Over time)
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 01:59:35 AM »

 

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