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Author Topic: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech  (Read 3414 times)

Offline vikram_gupta11

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Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« on: September 25, 2016, 08:09:02 AM »
In this sketch there is a GUN SYSTEM as a propellant chamber and we are using IRON BALLS as a propellant.

An electromagnet is attached on the other side of this engine .When we fire these   IRON balls  with the help of this gun system then these balls will move towards forward side and a back force will be create to propel  this engine .  These iron balls will be piled up on the surface of this electromagnet and we can again reuse these iron balls and send back these iron balls into the propellant chamber or refilling the Gun system again and again with the help of a mechanical system .

In this way this engine will work  and  the propellant (IRON BALLS) will never be reduced.

 

Now please tell me that will this Idea work or not as this time as far as I think no law is violating.

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Offline webby1

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2016, 02:54:17 PM »
The force to shoot the iron balls one way is the same as the force to shoot them the other way,, AKA the force to stop them is the same as the force to shoot them.

Offline Floor

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2016, 09:13:36 PM »
The guns "kick" is equal to and opposit the projectiles impact.

Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 06:22:55 PM »
Dear  Floor sir,
you are right that this will not move as net force is Zero but I have a question that suppose if the iron balls could reduce its velocity  with itself and hit with electromagnet with low velocity then this engine will move or not?

suppose the iron ball is expelling with 5 meter/second speed from Gun system and is hitting the electromagnet or a wall with 2 meter /second velocity then this device should work or not?
 further more I would like to inform you that we will use FERROFLUID(magnetic fluid) to reduce the velocity of these Iron balls .These iron balls will be filled up with this magnetic fluid  and at the time of  expelling this fluid will be in solid state but once expelling from the gun system it will convert into liquid form to reduce the velocity of iron balls .In this way this iron ball will reduce its velocity with itself due to ferro liquid.

we can also use another system to reduce the velocity of iron ball upto 0%by using two electromagnets .In this solution suppose iron ball is moving through between two electromagnet  and these two electromagnet will try to attract this iron ball  and this iron ball will be stopped immediately.
Now my question is  now the velocity of this iron ball is Zero then this engine should move or not  as we are getting thrust of gun system to propel the engine and iron ball is in 0 velocity and the force has been canceled  to stop this iron ball due to both electromagnet  .

Please explain your answer.
i shall be very grateful to you.

Vikram

Offline Floor

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 07:41:44 AM »
@vikram_gupta11

I do not say, that here is no way to acomplish what you are seeking.  NASSA has recently
verified the functionality of a device which is at least (some what) similar to your concept

But your most recent explination of the device is unclear to me.  I think that without a good drawing of
your concept, both you and I may be unclear in regard to its working or not.  Draw it and you my be able to
decide for your self if it is workable.

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 07:41:44 AM »
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Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 08:46:09 AM »
Dear Floor Sir,
Can you please tell me that from where I can get more information that nasa has verified  a device similar(some what) to this concept?

Please tell me some link .

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 09:10:58 AM »
Dear floor Sir,
I will soon send you a good Drawing of this concept.
Thank you Sir
vikram

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 09:10:58 AM »
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Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 09:58:37 AM »
in this sketch suppose the velocity of ball is 0 and it is out from the system and stayed in 0 velocity due to two electromagnets and these two magnets are attached with two springs and both springs are in stretched position towards up and down side . The ball is expelled from the gun system and got 0 velocity after expelling from the system by using these electromagnets and a force is also applying on these magnets and springs are in stretched position. you will say that engine will not move as net force is ZERO but if we release these spring then what will be happened with engine as after releasing these springs both will work to propel the engine ? should it move or not or can we modify the direction of this engine ? please keep aside the issue of ball retrieving. Thanks

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Re: Never reducing propellant for deep space propulsion tech
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 03:39:52 PM »
@vikram_gupta11

Quote from vikram_gupta11 "Can you please tell me that from where I can get more information that nasa has verified  a device similar(some what) to this concept?

Please tell me some link."   END QUOTE


http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/46732/20160903/breaking-newton-law-impossible-space-engine-emdrive-passes.htm

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