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Author Topic: Flat spring perpetual motor  (Read 2783 times)

Offline veproject1

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Flat spring perpetual motor
« on: September 13, 2016, 03:46:28 AM »

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Flat spring perpetual motor
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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 07:59:42 AM »

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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2016, 08:35:58 AM »
With the assumable friction added when those springs n little wheels, what ever is driving it must have power. ;) Maybe the springs are previously bent(illusion) so there is just enough to keep the wheels touching the big wheel and maybe doesnt take much power in to a drive motor.  ???

I 'want' to say, it wouldnt spin by hand that easy and freely with the springs in place, but then the argument would be we dont have to spin it by hand if the springs were in place. So how can we say anything beyond probable speculation. ::)

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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2016, 08:42:45 AM »
Just looked again. The springs are prebent. Like if there were such an effect, to get that wheel going like that, Id say more tension bend, more go. But now I look again and they are not sprung tight in the least to the big wheel. They are just hard to get out of the slot in the holder by the way he removed them bent thangs on the table, which for me the first time gave the illusion of spring tension against the wheel for some reason.

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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 10:42:46 AM »
This is just fake. All these videos from that user are just illusions, and is only for fun. There is no way this wheel can spin like that without external power. No matter how the springs are bent, orientated or what not, the force they act on the wheel are pushing outwards in a straight line from center of the wheel - perpendicular to the circumference. Also, there are ball bearings on the springs. I cannot imagine that free rotating ball bearings apply any energy.


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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 12:49:26 PM »
The stimulation from these is to find "how" it is faked.

Some of the projects from veproject1 are so convincing that it takes a while to figure them out.

Then ponder the what if's,, what if YOU can fix the part that is faked??????

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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2016, 09:15:24 AM »
The stimulation from these is to find "how" it is faked.

Some of the projects from veproject1 are so convincing that it takes a while to figure them out.

Then ponder the what if's,, what if YOU can fix the part that is faked? ??? ??
No one but the owner knows how it's faked. If you watch the wheel after he has moved it, he release the wheel a brief moment while the springs are still attached and "working". The wheel does not start to spin in that moment before he again holds whe wheel and removes the springs. Possibly because the magnetic coupling under the table is too far away.
So what we know, is that there is some sort of coupling that under the table. Look at the spin. It is constant and do not accelerate. The very last part of the video, the wheel spins faster - might it be a motor with a speed controller under that table?


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Re: Flat spring perpetual motor
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 02:35:15 PM »
It is kind of fun,,

Is that out of round spin something???  these builds are usually very accurate.

Why is it that when it is stopped by hand id does not spin up again,, could there be a wound up spring in the hub??

These builds really do get your imagination going,, a good exercise :)

 

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