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Offline memoryman

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2016, 04:03:03 PM »
First of all, being featured on Peswiki/PESN is an almost 100% evidence that it doesn't work.
Second, most of the posters here are mixing their units up: power, energy, work. Get your basics right first.

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2016, 04:03:03 PM »

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2016, 05:31:54 PM »
That is not very politely,memoryman !


If they know to do physically right Calorie/Joule/Watt/hp/Nm/Voltage/Ampere measurements from a functional prototype and get real usefull work (light,motor movement with load,heat,cool,vehicle movement,... ) then it it is really unimportant which expressions they use !


This media entrance is only to get "the media crowd" attended !


Treat Peswiki/PESN,rexresearch,epo.org,Nature,phys.org and other like the archive.org :
24 /365 exposition and information availability with local and name of people/groups/ whose probably can give you the right solution or answer for searched possibilities !


U.S.A. :f.e. M.I.T.,Stanford,Harvard,DARPA Germany:f.e. Max-Planck-Institute,Fraunhofer-Institute


Let us hope that they get their basics also right.




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Offline memoryman

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2016, 09:24:11 PM »
Maybe not ultra-polite, but still very much correct. If the basics are wrong, what follows will also be wrong.

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2016, 04:51:29 AM »
Hope tinman has a crack at this.

Just like his rt

I would be happy to share my results of my latest RT design,but that comes with an acceptance from all that i will not be presenting the internal workings of the device,nor will i be pressured to do so.

It has also come to my attention that some one i trusted has betrayed that trust,and is now linking his design-and taking credit for my work with the RT being based around his design.

I want to make it very clear that my work is my own design,and in no way is linked to-or based around anyone else's work here-or anywhere else for that matter.

So,if all are happy for me to show how the RT perform's,and understand that i will not be releasing the internal workings of the RT at this time,then i am happy to show where i am at with the RT at this point in time.

I would also like to make it clear that the RT dose not operate like the devices being discussed in this thread(although outer appearances look much the same),and so,may not belong in this thread.

I'll leave it up to the people in this thread to decide,and let me know by way of comments in this thread,as to whether i post here or not.


Brad


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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 05:59:51 AM »
Thanks for that offer Brad.

I would dearly love to see where you are at performance wise.

Understand that this device utilise a third brush and I have already tested this out on a non permanent
magnet universal motor (like the vac motor in the RTv3 videos) and sure enough - you can pull a greater voltage out from the third brush.

Have a spare treadmill motor that I will cut away some of the casing near the rotor to expose the commutator and test as shown.

If you like I can begin a new thread titled Tinman's RT - 09/16 progress.

Once again, thanks for the offer.

Sorry to hear about the betrayal you encountered and fully understand the need to keep things close to you chest.

Regards, Penno

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 05:59:51 AM »
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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2016, 09:14:35 AM »
Thanks for that offer Brad.

I would dearly love to see where you are at performance wise.

Understand that this device utilise a third brush and I have already tested this out on a non permanent
magnet universal motor (like the vac motor in the RTv3 videos) and sure enough - you can pull a greater voltage out from the third brush.

Have a spare treadmill motor that I will cut away some of the casing near the rotor to expose the commutator and test as shown.

If you like I can begin a new thread titled Tinman's RT - 09/16 progress.

Once again, thanks for the offer.

Sorry to hear about the betrayal you encountered and fully understand the need to keep things close to you chest.

Regards, Penno

No-no new thread,as i dont have much to offer a dedicated thread.


Brad

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 05:10:47 PM »

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I'll leave it up to the people in this thread to decide,and let me know by way of comments in this thread,as to whether i post here or not.
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Hi Brad,

I would also be interested in your rt device regarding where you are at with it nowadays. I understand your stance of not presenting the internal workings of the device.

I have written to lancaIV who started this thread and he just answered positively to use this thread. 

Thanks, Gyula

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2016, 08:06:40 PM »
Maybe not ultra-polite, but still very much correct. If the basics are wrong, what follows will also be wrong.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140515123331.htm
"We were able to convert a high-output performance of ~250 V from the slight mechanical deformation of a single thin plastic substrate. Such output power is just enough to turn on 100 LED lights," Keon Jae Lee explained.


The self-powered nanogenerators can also work with finger and foot motions. For example, under the irregular and slight bending motions of a human finger, the measured current signals had a high electric power of ~8.7 μA.

But the important part of this article is the notice about an achieved world-record in efficiency !

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2016, 08:58:11 PM »
"But the important part of this article is the notice about an achieved world-record in efficiency !"
nonsense; no actual efficiency figures are quoted before or after.

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2016, 09:41:27 PM »
"But the important part of this article is the notice about an achieved world-record in efficiency !"
nonsense; no actual efficiency figures are quoted before or after.
In addition, the piezoelectric nanogenerator has world-record power conversion efficiency,almost 40 times higher than previously reported similar research results, solving the drawbacks related to the fabrication complexity and low energy efficiency.


Pardon,memoryman,english is not my mother-language,but I think to understand what is written !
This is an article,a short information about a work performance which has several months -up to years professional re-/search behind !


KAIST is the name from this scientific org,who is interested to get more detailed information has
not to discuss this in third hands kind -there is the right place to become involved !

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Offline memoryman

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2016, 09:50:58 PM »
Well, English isn't my first language either.
I see little actual data; just hype.

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2016, 09:59:00 PM »
I think that you do not understand the today information management,the copy-paste format !


another info channel with the same article http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-05/tkai-kmg051514.php


It is not a hype,it is a notice ! 250V á 8 myA is not much from outsider view,but for insider this is a breakthrough !


And this correlate with all other news in the media : be attended but do not believe in all the content !
And technical lab breakthrough needs much time to come to market ,10-20 years is not uncommon !


from the article:
  "Building on this concept, it is highly expected that tiny mechanical motions, including human body movements of muscle contraction and relaxation, can be readily converted into electrical energy and, furthermore, acted as eternal power sources."
 btw "eternal" : not a hype worth ? perpetuum conversion


p.s.:
Second, most of the posters here are mixing their units up: power, energy, work. Get your basics right first.
#22 : 250V = "power"  8 myA= "power" ;)  Headline,Title,First Side - that is important http://media.eurekalert.org/multimedia_prod/pub/web/73313_web.jpg


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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2016, 12:21:40 PM »
Lanca
It is good to pay attention
a few years back the open source group I work with was playing with Graphene , it became apparent an electron beam
microscope would really be necessary , ...so we started looking [shopping] and it seemed every electron beam microscope in South Korea was up for sale on Ebay ,apparently too slow or too old to compete [resolution, speed , real time viewing etc etc]
even one year old Scopes were apparently too old......

basically All Junk in the NEW high tech Hunt/race for Nano , where the Guy who can see what  _God_ sees will be the winner
and perhaps a new creator......

again your link
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-05/tkai-kmg051514.php

Thanks.

Chet K

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2016, 10:17:03 PM »
Interesting topic


I'm testing at this time and will report my findings in a day or so.


BTW this one is getting closer to Brad's RT v3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt1tayxkPj4


Luc

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Re: FE in the news / new FE offer
« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2016, 05:55:08 PM »
Here is my first test which is not an exact replication but shows it to be promising.


Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7PqEhUwSA

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