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Author Topic: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?  (Read 22128 times)

Lidmotor

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2016, 06:53:59 PM »
One thing I would like to see is a thermal image of this device running.  Does it get hot or cold and what parts.  I had a recurring dream years ago that I had indeed built a self-running machine and left it running over night.  The next morning it was still running but covered in frost and the run battery had been over (back) charged and burst.
  If a thermal image of this magnet motor shows heating---that energy has to come from somewhere.  If it is shown to run stone cold or gets colder then perhaps my dream came true.  Dreams are fun.  Even wild ones. They sometimes lead to a different reality through a twisted path. I can't wait until November to see what happens on this venture.  Who will get the cheeseburger?   

--Rusty

ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2016, 12:45:53 PM »
To Note
Longtime member and a very gifted builder/experimenter "Dusty"[not to be confused with Rusty] has made a Tutorial Video
explaining his interpretation of the Miller Colson design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgz51pmRpI

respectfully
Chet K

Dog-One

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2016, 05:37:56 PM »
Looks to me like mechanically there is a sweet spot between linear pulling force and rotational torque required to switch the magnetic direction.

Makes one wonder if there is an electrical equivalent to this technique...

Lidmotor

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Dusty's build
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2016, 07:43:12 PM »
To Note
Longtime member and a very gifted builder/experimenter "Dusty"[not to be confused with Rusty] has made a Tutorial Video
explaining his interpretation of the Miller Colson design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWgz51pmRpI

respectfully
Chet K

This is what I was hoping for---someone to build a model of the how it is supposed to operate.  One can easily see that if you motorized the action with "timing" motors it would look like it was running on magnetic power.  I don't think it would ever work without that but what a cool looking device.  A good flywheel and low friction bearings would really help. 
  If Dusty gets this better developed I might try a scaled down 'kitchen table' version.  Thanks for posting this Chet.

---Rusty

ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2016, 07:42:00 AM »
I see Dusty has added more thoughts and ideas here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgywiaqlHlQ&feature=em-upload_owner


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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 04:03:10 AM »
@ramset

Re: dusty's timing ring ..very nice !

I hope he wont mind if I borrow it for the "twist drive".

Force to rotate the crank will increase if his lateral travel is
opposed.

               thanks for the update

                       cheers

conradelektro

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2016, 10:56:28 AM »
Experimenter Dusty (Batgold https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEK03aTe0amJbFCvm871-7Q) does a very good job explaining this strange concept.

Still, I do not understand how the gained energy (if there is any gain) can be led out? Will it be like in a steam engine or any piston engine? Turning reciprocal movement into turning by help of a crank and may be a fly wheel?

If it is for a pump the reciprocal movement would be fine?

And yes, it has a lot to do with Floor's idea.

Greetings, Conrad

ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2016, 01:19:27 AM »

MagnaProp

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2016, 05:48:02 AM »
Good work from Dusty. Hope he can mill away all that red plastic that is acting like a large weight. That wood circle could be turned into swiss cheese with a drill to lighten it up some.

Not sure if this is real but I hope so. I don't mind electrical servo motors being used, as long as the electrical power is being generated by the device.

If it turns out to not self run but is at least a more efficient motor with the help from magnets, that could be cool.


Dog-One

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2016, 09:31:48 PM »
I suspect if Dusty removes the cam mechanism and really studies the motion and where the forces are, he can create a map that can then be engineered into a really good cam system.  Just winging it like he has done so far isn't going to be good enough IMHO.  Whether this will bring self running operation or not is yet to be determined.  What Dusty needs to avoid is feeding Tinsel another cheeseburger.   :)

The other thing I don't see Dusty capitalizing on is the back-n-forth force.  Sonny used what looked like some sort of crankshaft/connecting-rod mechanism to extract this force.  This linear force added to the rotational force might be just enough to put him over the top--quite certain both are required to come anywhere near OU.


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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2018, 11:51:18 AM »
here si my simple replication of this motor... but for now it is not working... i will try some adjustments and add flywheel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M5ZXGxzAKw

see ya ;)

ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2018, 02:56:24 PM »
Sir
thanks for showing your work
I had heard that there were some measurement issues with the drive motor that powered the unit ?and the machine could not run itself separate from the grid [no self run] .....this was a few years back...they might have figured out what to do by now ?

respectfully
Chet K