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Author Topic: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?  (Read 6306 times)

Offline ramset

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Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« on: September 05, 2016, 05:26:30 PM »
 Miller Colson Magnetic Motor

being discussed here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20583-miller-colson-magnetic-motor.html

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*U.S. Patent No. 8,487,484 B1* World's first working, practical, and patented magnetic engine. For more information contact Sonny Miller, Inventor and designer, by e-mail at:

cal500llc@gmail.com

or by phone at:

+1 (229) 821-3067

Credits:

Marc Miller, Alexander Miller, Mike Kilroy [Kilroy Corp. Electronics], Walter Duft PA Patents, Ray Tobin - Mechanic, Jan Hawk [Hawk Diesel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JTwbIpf6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWggsnpEk_s

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8487484B1/en


Legal status: Active

Application number: US13421219

Inventors:
Harold L. Miller, Jr.
Andrew E. Colson, Jr.

Current Assignee: Torque Multipliers LLC

Original Assignee: Torque Multipliers LLC

Priority date: 2012-03-15

Filing date: 2012-03-15

Publication date: 2013-07-16

Grant date: 2013-07-16


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Originally Posted by Patent Abstract
A magnetic drive apparatus includes first and second magnet carriers carrying first and second permanent magnet arrangements. An intermediate magnet carrier disposed between the first and second magnet carriers carries a third permanent magnet arrangement. The magnet carriers are arranged for rotation relative to each other such that the magnet arrangements produce magnetic interactions that result in power stroke forces causing the magnet carriers to undergo relative reciprocation in first and second stroke directions during power zone portions of the relative rotation. The magnetic interactions impart substantially no power stroke forces during dead zone portions of the relative rotation. The dead zones include magnet carrier relative rotation positions wherein opposing magnetic poles are mutually coaxially aligned but produce a substantially equal balance of push and pull magnetic forces. The apparatus may be synchronized so that the dead zones coincide with top dead center and bottom dead center relative reciprocation positions.

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all comments welcome

respectfully

Chet K

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Offline ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 08:17:57 PM »
Quite a simple concept ,on quite a large scale...
the first vid again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2JTwbIpf6o

respectfully
Chet K


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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 11:35:18 PM »
I suppose it was smart to use those powerful servo drives to take the place of Mr. hands on a machine using such large magnets.
Although I'm not sure why they would need them when the timing could of easily been geared directly off the crank.







Offline Dog-One

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2016, 01:09:32 AM »
So Chet,

Have you asked Tinsel yet how a couple of bloody knuckle diesel mechanics where able to outsmart some of the greatest scientific and engineering minds the world has to offer?


My son showed this video to his physics teacher and she naturally said, "That's impossible!"

Is the worm about to turn?


Bring on the 3D printed wearable magnet motor...



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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 01:46:09 AM »
Chet

I have watched that video a couple of times now,and i believe that it is the servo motors doing the work here--not the magnets.

The servo motors rock the stator field back and forth,between attraction and repulsion mode.
If the servo motors were removed,and replaced by a mechanical mechanism driven from the crank shaft,then the motor would not run,as more force is required to rock the stator magnets back and forth than the motor itself can provide.


Brad

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2016, 01:46:09 AM »
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Offline lumen

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2016, 01:54:06 AM »
Exactly!
Though it may be possible that the servo drives need to provide a more elliptical rotation to achieve a working result and may in fact not require much power.
In which case they should have connected a generator to provide sustainable power to the servo drives as proof of concept.
Or used elliptical gearing to match the servo drives and eliminate them.


Offline ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 01:58:55 AM »
Dog
Tinsel has won too many Cheeseburger bets already and is paying the price ...
{drilling more holes in the belt I am sure]

Brad
This monster has much to look at [oversized eye candy] and most certainly the point you mention is suspect [as Lumen also noted], however I do believe there is such great force at work here [chassis is crazy big iron] and his "engine management computer" seems to
talk with these servos which he says are run off the Motor....?

perhaps the tolerances are hard to maintain and require great tuning  strength / sensitivity of these type servos ??

and if they are run off the rig then their tuning function and movements would be Moot in the energy analysis!
I will see if he'll take a call tomorrow.

thanks for all input and comments
Chet K

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2016, 01:58:55 AM »
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Offline Lidmotor

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 04:46:58 AM »
Servos? We don't need no stinkin servos......just a rubber band!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFZd-shL8nw

What interests me about this Miller Colson device is the patent on it.  Perhaps it is worth a cheese burger run. A much scaled down version would be a fun build but I doubt seriously it would ever self-run.  A bit of help from Mr. Hand or a AA might do it.  ;D
Cheers.
--- Rusty

Offline Lakes

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 08:59:25 AM »
I love it!!

now run it off a solar cell which charges a supercap which runs the circuit which lights the LED which.... hehe

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 03:12:29 PM »
Well I think i understood the principle.. it could run..  I have rotors with magnets (not quite that size but over an inch diameter) and they have increadible force when the two disks are in attraction mode... i even had to remove the magnets because I could not get them a part..

but i do not think i have the caftmanship to build this.. i mean to have the center disk rotating while having a linear movement.. and worse.. controlling the rotation...  i would not even know what tools to use to build that..
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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 03:12:29 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2016, 03:27:40 PM »
Well
I had a nice chat with an associate of Mr.Miller
Would seem the first unit went into runaway mode ,and yes there are Monstrous magnetic forces in motion here [the reason for
the huge Chassis on the second Rig ].

hopefully there will be more to come soon.[a tentative call on Thursday]

respectfully
Chet K



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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 11:31:02 AM »
Hilarious! The first thing that came to mind while watching the first part of that video is.... how do you _stop_ it?

But I'll bet a cheezburger that I already know how... you just disconnect the electrical power.   ;)

Also there seems to be some confusion about the difference between "watts" as claimed by the presenter, and "amps" as measured by the clampon meter.



Offline Floor

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 02:59:14 PM »
I think this is the first magnet motor, Ive seen that I can allso
see some reason as to why it might really work. 

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 03:53:09 PM »
Like all of you I was wondering why he has electrical servos for timing. I asked him that. If you look in the comment section after my question you can see his reply. Basically he says the machine will run either way, with mechanical or electric servo which gives him timing changes on the fly and therefore more control of speed and power.  Interesting machine!!


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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2016, 11:33:41 AM »
As the resident Metrologist and Cheeseburgler dooly noted

 unplugging the unit from the mains would be a good thing!
There are some members arranging a Visit to assist these gentleman in their venture and help to qualify this claim and hopefully "unplug" it from the mains and Plug it into the history books [which is where it belongs if it can self run]

scheduled for November.

will keep you posted

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Re: Miller Colson Magnetic Motor coming to market ?
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