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Author Topic: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity  (Read 9667 times)

Offline vikram_gupta11

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2016, 07:31:54 PM »
Dear Vidar Sir,
The spring will work to  just hold the seesaw system and we can take a tubular piston instead of this spring .This wheel will will move in clockwise direction  and we will have to fix the whole system in horizontal direction.  The clockwise movement of this wheel will be determined by 3 no. magnet as it will push the 1 no. magnet in clockwise direction.
If you have any doubts then please tell me to clear your doubts.

Thank you Sir.
Vikram

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2016, 07:26:27 AM »
Dear Vidar Sir,
The spring will work to  just hold the seesaw system and we can take a tubular piston instead of this spring .This wheel will will move in clockwise direction  and we will have to fix the whole system in horizontal direction.  The clockwise movement of this wheel will be determined by 3 no. magnet as it will push the 1 no. magnet in clockwise direction.
If you have any doubts then please tell me to clear your doubts.

Thank you Sir.
Vikram
In your drawing there appears to be two magnets attached to the wheel. Magnet 1 that appears to attached some distance away from the wheel (via rod), and a magnet at the bottom that is attached directly to the wheel. Is the bottom red "lump" on the wheel also a magnet?


Vidar


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2016, 10:13:34 AM »
No it is not a magnet  it is just a weight to balance the wheel.

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2016, 06:41:03 AM »
this wheel will move definitely and this device is a game of exact timing  if we get  exact timing among these magnets then no resistance can stop this wheel wheather it is air resistance ,vibration or heat or anyother.It will move........


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2016, 12:41:31 PM »
this wheel will move definitely and this device is a game of exact timing  if we get  exact timing among these magnets then no resistance can stop this wheel wheather it is air resistance ,vibration or heat or anyother.It will move........
Sorry for being late. I have pundled with other projects lately, but I am now ready to build your device.
There is no established or correct ways to make the timing for an OU device, because OU has allways been out of the question in physics.
So this timing is something that must be invented first. If you got a solid theory of correct timing for an OU device, it will save me lots of time in trial and error.


Can you please provide your math that convince you that wheel will provide excess energy?


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2016, 12:41:31 PM »
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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2016, 07:00:04 PM »
Dear vidar sir,
 I just mean  to exact timing is exact repulsion timing among  these magnets and I don't have  any math calculation regarding this.

Thank you Sir

vikram 

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2016, 09:20:49 PM »
I made this thing, and it does not work. The spring is replaced with a rubberband because I had no springs. But the function to keep the seesaw in alignment worked.
When I spin up the wheel, the seesaw will wobble. But this wobbeling does not add energy into the wheel. As expected. Instead the wheel stops sooner when the seesaw is there than if I remove the seesaw.
Reason:
When the wheel magnet put the seesaw in motion, the wheel transfer work into the seesaw.
The seesaw is not perfectly frictionless, and the rubberband is not a perfect suspension, so the wheel will not get back all the work it gave. So the wheel will stop.
Vikram, please tell me what to do next to do adjustments. I can see from you drawing that the seesaw is not looking just like the one I printed out in the video below.


https://youtu.be/eDqY4L0HASU


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2016, 09:20:49 PM »
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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2016, 09:27:12 AM »
 Dear vidar  sir,

At first million thanks for your effort.
There are several mistakes in making this device .
please give me a day time so that i could tell you about those mistakes and provide  some  solutions  as I 'm preparing an another sketch and solutions for Duel energy system also  and now I can say that this device will work definitely after viewing the video.

Thank you Sir

Vikram




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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2016, 05:37:50 PM »
Dear vidar  sir,

At first million thanks for your effort.
There are several mistakes in making this device .
please give me a day time so that i could tell you about those mistakes and provide  some  solutions  as I 'm preparing an another sketch and solutions for Duel energy system also  and now I can say that this device will work definitely after viewing the video.

Thank you Sir

Vikram
You're welcome :)
I'll wait patiently for your new design. Since you are conviced that your design will work, I guess you have a theory that will lead to some accurate parts I need to make. I am happy with making parts, but not so happy in wasting time on parts that is not right ;)
No hurry. Take your time. I will probably not have time to do much the next 7-8 days anyways. I am finishing a speaker build for the HiFi event October 1. - 2. next weekend. Designed and built by myself. Built in digital amplifiers with BlueTooth, DSP (Digital Sound Processor) and everything. I spend lots of time calibrating the DSP for maximum sound quality - that takes time!
So if you wonder why I have so many neodymium magnets in my garage, you don't need to ask ;D


Vidar

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2016, 09:50:29 AM »
Dear Vidar Sir,

Take a look on these changes.In this sketch you will find that I have attached 10 shake flashlights on  the both side of a balanced seesaw system and this seesaw is moving with 3 to 6 volt toy motor but  I have used 10 no. shake flashlights and each flashlight will produce only 2 volt as a output ,which will be less than input . On the first hand each flashlight is producing only 2 volt and on the second hand the total 10 no. flashlights systems are producing 20 volt . If we try this concept than input is more than output but if we add total output then it is greater than input.

please answer me that will these flashlights will be light up or not as mass is not an issue in this device.
Note(1)each flashlight is separate with another flashlight .
(2)we are using only 3 to 6 volt motor to press the seesaw system and I have attached a crankshaft with seesaw system and  a motor to convert motor's rotatory motion in to linear motion .Now motor is pressing the seesaw system and due to this, flashlights are also shaking  but we are using only 3 volt as a input to light up these 20 no. flashlights (also include another arm of seesaw ).
for an example   I have used 10 no. coil+ magnet and each coil+ magnet system will produce only 2 volt as a output ,which will be less than input and on the first hand each magnet+ coil system is producing only 2 volt and on the second hand the total 10 no. magnet+ coil systems are producing 20 volt . If we try this concept than input is more than output but if we add total output then it is greater than input.

Further more if I connect a motor with exhaust fan with each coil+magnet or flashlight instead of LED bulb then these total 10 no. fan will work to pass the air through a blow pipe and this exhaust air will work to run a 10 volt motor again .In this way can we get more output than input.

In this case as far as I think I'm not violating any thermodynamics laws as we are getting less output than input with each coil+magnet system. But total 10 no. magnet +coil systems are producing 10 volt as a output and no reverse magnetism work in this system also due to more input than output.ed seesaw there is need of less energy or input we are using only a 3 volt toy motor and this motor will run only with AA size battery.suppose one flash light is generating 1.5 volt and 1 amp so the electricity will be or power will be using P=VI(1.5*1=1.5 watt) and we can generate 1.5 watt power with each flashlight but I have attached 10 or 20 or 30 flash lights on the seesaw system and this seesaw is moving or turning  with the help of only 2  to 4 no. AA size battery.If we are getting 1.5 watt with each flashlight then can we use this current to run a 1.5 watt motor and in this way can we run or move attached no. fans which are 10 ,20 or 30 or more and again gathering the exhaust of these total fans through a blower to run a powerful turbine  than a 3 volt toy motor.

Note(1) the total exhaust gathered from these fans can easily run a small wind turbine which output will be greater than 3 or 4 AA size batteries.
(2) There is no issue of mass in this design  and INERTIA IS NOT A PROBLEM I CAN EASILY SHORT OUT THIS PROBLEM.

IF YOU HAVE SOME TIME THEN ALSO TAKE A LOOK ON MY SECOND CONCEPT'  DEEP SPACE PROPULSION USING SPRING FORCE AND KINETIC ENERGY'.

THANK YOU SIR

VIKRAM

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2016, 12:25:09 PM »
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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2016, 04:33:55 AM »
Dear vidar sir,
The wheel you built is not working as there are several mistakes .
(1) The seesaw system connected with rubber band is not perfect
(2)Magnet shape is an another problem as these both magnets of seesaw opposing equally the 1 no. magnet at same time.
(3)angle of repelling of 3 no. magnet of 1 no. magnet is not perfect or not working.

solutions:
(1) we can use a piston like tube and will attach it only with the right Arm of seesaw system  as it will work to just holding this seesaw system.there is no need of spring and rubber band.
(2) we will use rectangle shape magnets if you don't have rectangle shape magnets then just take rectangle wooden blocks and attach your Ring shape magnets but this time we will have to take 4 no. magnets.
(3)The angle of repelling of 1 no. magnet is very important in this design.if we adjust the seesaw system in this way that when 1 no. magnet is repelling the 2 no. magnet then the 3 no. magnet could repel 1 no. magnet with a perfect angle .The important thing is designing of SEESAW system in this device.

If we do these changes then it will work.


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2016, 02:33:44 AM »
As our dear friend Archer Quinn once taught us....

Take a lever with 1,000 Kg on each end in perfect balance.
Now add the energy of one penny with gravity.
E=(mass of penny) * 9.8 m/s/s * (1/2 length of lever)
Then stand underneath that 1,000 Kg as it comes crashing down on your head.

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2016, 08:25:13 AM »

           magnetic seesaw "wave" and rotor/stator(motor) wheel :
                       
                        wheel-motion translation linear/rotational

                       http://www.energynews.gr/electric.htm




                                                            "seesaw"
                           real-world and neuronal/cerebral -"quantum mechanics"-world
https://www.google.pt/search?client=opera&q=seesaw+mechanism&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


(Murray/Dirac "Dark-Deep Matter"  See/sea )


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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2016, 07:51:33 AM »
It is completely full proof ,flawless design .A real perpetual machine.

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Re: Dual energy generation with magnetic seesaw system and gravity
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