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Offline Newton II

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Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« on: July 09, 2016, 07:28:20 AM »

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2016, 04:26:10 PM »
The trouble with videos is that they can be faked with ease.

I wonder how much sodium polytungstate costs. It is x3 the weight of water. I have sent off an email to enquire.

Also, would it work with ball bearings, lead shot or even sand which is very dry?

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2016, 08:22:11 PM »
I posted the below screen shot on that video

They will probably delete my comment

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2016, 02:32:03 AM »

Water always tries to be at bottom most part.  So, lever length at the bottom (center to bottom level of water) is more than the lever length at the top portion (center to top level of water) making moment at the bottom portion greater than moment at top portion.  Obviously  it cannot work.  Level of water at left and right sides will be equal.  So the moment is cancelled off.


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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2016, 04:53:47 PM »

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 06:32:01 AM »
In the past 8 month, videos of these machines have popped up
All over the world.
A dad submitting it for his kids science fair
An elementary teacher in India showing one running in the back
of an active classroom.
People in several countries using different types of bicycle wheels.


After looking deep into this thing,
Bashkara II wasn't just some crackpot who thought he had an idea.
This man was the Indian version of Archimedes
A scholar, an astronomer, a mathematician, an artist, a sculptor,
A teacher and an Engineer


And the inventor of Perpetual Motion
His machine dates back before the time of Bessler or DaVinci
To 1156 or something, apparently this is known in India
They kinda laugh at our physics


Anyways I'm going to have to build one of these
And I encourage anyone willing to join us in this adventure


Take a look in the tube and watch some of the videos with
Different bottles and wheels and get an idea for the angle.
The more bottles the better it what is being said.


We don't need any specially dense liquid or Mercury
We can dissolve salts into water to make it heavier.
There is a balance, for the size of the wheel
How far the bottles stick out, and the amount/density
of the liquid that will extract energy from the gravitational field.


Table salt and Epsom salt are being used


Longer bottles produce more torque
Use care in balancing the wheel (empty)
And place measured quantities in each one
If anyone can read Indian this guy wrote the math
It might help us to take a word straight from the horse


To relate it to our physics, we know how gravity works
And we know the equations for Archimedes Lever.
There's some complex angles involved but the water
Always tries to maintain a level surface along the horizontal plane
We can tell from the angle of the bottle to the horizontal
Where the exact volume is for each bottle at each moment
Around the circle


From that we can calculate the leverage with the distance
By subtracting the two sides of the wheel
And determine the best value for your size wheel
And bottles


And you know how much water to put in each one.


If you don't like math, an alternative approach would be to
Trial and error with different amounts of liquid.











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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 06:43:26 AM »
Watch these videos, frame by frame , or pause it if you can't
Look at where the mass is as it spins around
If this many people are able to fake leverage
And manipulate water secretly......


I would like to know their trick.


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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 06:55:05 AM »
There is an importance to the angle and the
Ratio between the diameter of the wheel and size of bottle.


Shorter bottles on large wheels have steep angles
Such that the leverage is decreased.
The fluid at bottom dead center appears to be almost
downwardly pointing in the bottle, and just starting to
transition to the horizontal.


Longer bottles on smaller wheels are almost completely
Horizontal at bottom dead center
Distributing the bottom mass while keeping it
Very close to the rim of the bike wheel


But in all the cases that show these things appear to work
(VerProject excluded....)
The mass of the water is leveraged on the operational side
of the device


Look at them

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2017, 02:09:03 PM »
Sounds Like a good idea [a build]

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2017, 02:55:52 PM »
Such a video like this one can be indeed faked easily and as it's already noted above, the lack of background sound just makes it suspicious. But I'm getting to think about it more seriously. There are multiple seemingly unrelated devices, which have still something in common:  Bhaskara's wheel,  Rosch' KPP buoyancy generator and cavitation heater or Tesla turbine. These perpetuums are very old and also frequent in the patent literature. They all utilize water, which gets more fragmented into droplets and bubbles at one half of device than at another one.

In my theory the overunity devices should utilize the negentropic phenomena, like the oversaturation, overcooling or Barkhaussen noise. And the formation of bubbles and droplets is also metastable process, which is assisted with vacuum fluctuations: the small droplets must overcome certain critical size due to surface tension, after which they would coalesce spontaneously. The same applies for water droplets. That means, you must exert some energy for to create small droplets and this energy will be released back again like for pulled spring, once the bubble or droplet reaches some critical size. But just during it, in a brief interval of time the process could run into account of thermal energy of neighboring system, which will cool itself. So that not only all previous energy exerted will be returned back, but also small amount of surplus energy, which wouldn't violate the I. law of thermodynamics, but it could violate the II. thermodynamical law.

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2017, 03:12:12 PM »
There is still another take, which results from old experiments of abandoned Russian physicist of Nikolai A. Kozyrev. According to his experiments the finely divided matter should get lighter and of lower inertia, than this compact bulk one. 

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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2017, 09:13:59 PM »
Trying to pull together a compilation of some of the content
That I have seen recently


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50Aag0J0Qe4


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=piAH9Lx6Sak


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gMHLxFiKRhc


I'll post some more when I figure out how to find them again



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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2017, 10:49:36 PM »
While not a water wheel ..
the 6:00 to 12:00 return to the top [vertical path tight to the axle ]    has always intrigued .

http://overunity.com/7150/sjack-abeling-gravity-wheel-and-the-worlds-first-weight-power-plant/#.WIUnsLkixdg

and this one was claimed to run Too ?

http://overunity.com/13218/perpetual-motion/#.WIUrkLkixdg  [combine the 6 to 12 as abeling does ??

just some things to consider

and yes,  I will be building here too......


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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 05:09:21 AM »
Here is a drawing reportedly originating from Bashkara
I apologize for the large size. If someone can resize it
I will remove this one. If not I can resize tomorrow.




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Re: Latest Bhaskara wheel!
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 05:16:28 AM »
Shown here there are 12.75 viles of liquid on the bottom half
Only 11.25 on the top half


Left to right
8.5 viles on the right ( at the outer periphery)
8 on the left. (3 & 1/4 on the outer, 4.75 on the inner)
[negating the top 5 viles for now, as they are inert as shown]
Mathematically, there is a downward gravitational flux
On the right side of the wheel.


Using this drawing as a guideline I plan to set up
Some experiments


As observed in the videos, the momentum of the water
Is conserved as rotational acceleration on the wheel
Each time it shifts. In this way the bottles could be
compared to the combustion chambers of a Wankel
Engine.


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