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Author Topic: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM  (Read 37309 times)

Offline gotoluc

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #150 on: June 15, 2017, 11:57:30 PM »
https://youtu.be/UlGjr2VBxR0


linear pulse motor fabricated, please watch safety videos


Hi, I guess you're using my Mostly Magnet Motor design where the magnets on each ends of the center rod core are opposing each other N-N or S-S?
Looks good and wishing you all the best.


Luc

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #151 on: June 16, 2017, 01:18:08 AM »
Hi, yes I am combining your project with the swing 5 rotor.

 https://youtu.be/SMHmLgXWR1U

https://youtu.be/jKIWcJiJs04

I plan to use it to drive a multi- stator and multi- rotor PMA. I will use a Buck converter to reduce the (I squared R) loss at the stator. I will adjust the perimeters until it generates more electricity then it is  uses to operate.  Not OU. Thank you for posting your project.

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #152 on: June 16, 2017, 11:47:15 PM »
Hi, yes I am combining your project with the swing 5 rotor.

 https://youtu.be/SMHmLgXWR1U

https://youtu.be/jKIWcJiJs04

I plan to use it to drive a multi- stator and multi- rotor PMA. I will use a Buck converter to reduce the (I squared R) loss at the stator. I will adjust the perimeters until it generates more electricity then it is  uses to operate.  Not OU. Thank you for posting your project.

That's great!
I wish you success.
Are you aware of the further torque improvement the mostly magnet motor design can achieve without any more power input?
Did you see the Super build of it?

Regards

Luc

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #153 on: June 17, 2017, 12:26:20 AM »
Hi, I have been searching for the videos, can you please post the links.  Thank you for any help received.

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #154 on: June 17, 2017, 01:18:50 AM »
Hi, I have been searching for the videos, can you please post the links.  Thank you for any help received.

I've copied the below from my original topic: http://overunity.com/8429/mostly-permanent-magnet-motor-with-minimal-input-power/msg420188/#msg420188
It contains the essential details and developments.

Over five years ago I came up with a unique linear motor design where a coil moves on a steel core between two opposing permanent magnets.

The benefits I found in this design are:
1. The stronger the magnets and the more core surface area, the stronger the push or pull gram force is.
2. The design has no magnet cogging as the cores and magnets don't move.
3. The coils Inductance has next to no change as it moves since it never leaves the core.
4. If designed correctly the coils push or pull gram force is equal throughout the travel stroke.
5. Compared to a standard solenoid my design uses a fraction of the input power, so it can be continuously operated 24/7. A standard solenoid would catch on fire if it tried to continuously push or pull what my design can do.
6. My design offers huge travel distances compared to a standard solenoid.
7. It can be made to travel a 1/4 inch to 4 inches or more if needed while maintaining the same gram force throughout the stroke.

Here is a demo video of how my basic design works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eTQ49RcFKM
Here is a larger magnet version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa1dO8qWPQU
Here is a super build version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6pc-XNS9uo

All tests were done with the same digital scale which displays pull gram force in 5 gram increments.

Results of the tests in the same order as the videos above:

no.1 has   250 grams pull force with a continuous 1.2 watt input
no.2 has   500 grams pull force with a continuous 0.43 watt input
no.3 has 2500 grams pull force with a continuous 0.43 watt input

As you can see I'm demonstrating that the pull gram force can be increased by the force of the permanent magnet without increasing the input power. Note that test no.1 has 1.2 watt input and test no.2 has 0.43 watt input which is a 65% reduction in input power but still has double the gram pull force.
Test no.3 has 5 times the gram pull force of test no.2 using the same input power since the core and magnet surface area is 8 times wider.
So obviously not just the force of the magnet can play a part but more core and magnet surface area also increases the push or pull gram force.

This is what I've been trying to demonstrate in a nutshell. However, since this is the Overunity Forum people here are mostly interested in OU possibility rather then an innovation.
So to please everyone I did tests to see if the super build could have OU potential even though I knew it would not since the design also suffers of the generator effect as the coil moves in the permanent magnet field. Since it can only move at a certain speed because the coil generates power as it moves, it fights the input power which is coming in the same direction, so we cannot beat the laws of physics here.

Hope this helps

Luc
« Last Edit: June 17, 2017, 06:08:07 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #155 on: June 17, 2017, 02:03:43 AM »
Hi, yes it does help. Thank you.

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #156 on: June 18, 2017, 09:16:13 PM »
https://youtu.be/-Vi4w97YiqE

proceeding to fabricate large pendulum drive and I will use the MPMM to drive the the pendulum

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #157 on: June 28, 2017, 02:04:53 AM »
the pendulum was not working well for me. switched back to the swing5 rotor. I increase the stroke on the MPMM to 16 inches. At 12 volts dc it has low power. Suggestions welcome.

i can down size the swing5 rotor, or increase the magnet size and input voltage. I am aware of the inverse squared relationship for the magnet force and distance. suggestion welcome

https://youtu.be/SrYTTa9EPck

coil size is 2 by 4 inches, 18 awg @ 10 ohms

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #158 on: June 28, 2017, 03:32:27 AM »
The MMM can be designed to travel efficiently at any distance if you have the money or supplies to build it correctly.
The length and height of your coil determines the maximum travel length and diameter of your center core.

For example:
A 6 inch long coil wound 1 inch thick can efficiently travel 6 inches in each direction on a 1 inch dia. core that is 12 inches long.
A 12 inch long coil wound 2 inch thick can efficiently travel 12 inches in each direction on a 2 inch dia. core that is 24 inches long.
If your coil is 4 inches long and you're trying to get it to travel 8 inches in each direction on a 16 inch long core then you reduce the MMM push/pull force by half.
So not efficient, no matter how many magnets you add.

If you follow the above example then you'll get the best results. And if you also include an outer core which takes advantage of both poles of the magnets like I have demonstrated in my videos, then you'll double the push/pull force with the same input power.
Obviously the stronger the magnets are and the more core and coil surface area there is the stronger the push/pull fore will be and without an increase in input power.
However, keep in mind that generator effect (CEMF) also increases with the above which I've also tested and confirmed in a video demo which confirms the MMM is an under unity device.
I would think it may be as efficient to use an off the shelf geared motor and attach a crank shaft if you're needing a back and forth linear motion.
Hope this helps
All the best in your experiments
Luc

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #159 on: June 28, 2017, 05:11:39 AM »
hi, thanks for the help. I ordered a few 3 by 3 inch neo's with 1000 pound pull force. It should get the project moving in the right direction. Thanks again for the help.


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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #160 on: June 28, 2017, 07:31:03 PM »
https://youtu.be/HbVtXPegW_o

fabricating 4 MMM to drive two small pendulums.

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #161 on: June 30, 2017, 04:53:01 PM »
https://youtu.be/0t8yDnyOaQ8

Another SAFETY video.

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #162 on: July 06, 2017, 04:57:53 PM »
https://youtu.be/eLq94TdoqxE

posting just for info, it uses mechanical advantage, gravity, and the drive motor could be pulsed on and off

looks easier to fabricate, this could be the solution, the large magnets are scaring me

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Re: Gravity assisted power project- GRAM
« Reply #163 on: July 09, 2017, 10:38:47 PM »
http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?products_id=982

Hi, I may have found a way to increase stroke length  of the MMM. additional magnet sets could be placed in the iron core, the coil could be pulsed every time it reaches a new set of magnets.
comments welcome

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