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Offline earthbound0729

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2016, 07:59:17 PM »
Thank you for this evaluation and explanation, Brad. It helps to put this in perspective.

Would you be able to focus some attention on the Tesla aether (Radiant energy) concept and his explanation. Again there seems to be confusion or mixed signals on this as well. There are times when I read some of his work that the radiant energy mentioned is that which is available in various forms which we have been taught about in school, including solar, xray, heat, cosmic, etc, most anything along the electromagnetic spectra. At other times Tesla seems to espouse a more esoteric and occult energy source or form, which hasn't really been classified or studied as much per se, although it may well exist, but yet be elusive to easily identify with current technology or machinery.

That same rationale would have been the norm before the demonstrable identification of infared or xray radiation, for instance, since there was a time when we did not possess the technology to "see" them either.

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2016, 08:29:59 PM »
Thank you for this evaluation and explanation, Brad. It helps to put this in perspective.

Would you be able to focus some attention on the Tesla aether (Radiant energy) concept and his explanation. Again there seems to be confusion or mixed signals on this as well. There are times when I read some of his work that the radiant energy mentioned is that which is available in various forms which we have been taught about in school, including solar, xray, heat, cosmic, etc, most anything along the electromagnetic spectra. At other times Tesla seems to espouse a more esoteric and occult energy source or form, which hasn't really been classified or studied as much per se, although it may well exist, but yet be elusive to easily identify with current technology or machinery.

That same rationale would have been the norm before the demonstrable identification of infared or xray radiation, for instance, since there was a time when we did not possess the technology to "see" them either.

TY,
earthbound

The problem with finding Tesla's true meaning of radiant energy,is that his words and work have been riddled with other peoples attempts at understanding his work,and re written in words that were not Tesla's--the grape vine takes hold.

Perhaps he was referring to atmospheric power?.
The potential difference between ground,and 35km up,is a whopping 300 000 volts.
We would only need 10mA of current to have 3000 watts of power. Maybe Tesla found a way to set up some sort of resonant or gathering system to harness this potential energy-->some sort of electrical pumping system?.

I myself,prefer working with permanent magnets immerse in pulsing electromagnetic fields,but where the electromagnetic fields also have physical motion-in that the inductor moves with time.


Brad


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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2016, 11:20:43 PM »
Hope you don't mind if I add a few notes.

I think from what we know from the Tesla patents (radiant energy collecting apparatus), he was referring to radiation of any kind, including Röntgen, cosmic, sun, radio. Actually anything that radiates from a certain point in space and causes accellerated particles.

It is absolutely true that some people use the term whenever they run out of plausible explanations, together with "ZPE", "Ambient background energy", even "Dark Matter" etc. etc.

That's task no. 1 in this field: to recognize the Quacks. They're not all that evil, just repeating some things they read, pdeudoscientific things. Often the loudest, most celebrated celebs are the biggest fakes. I don't mention names tho.

It's better to look at accepted science and search for phenomena there. Things they can't explain. Violations of the conservation of energy, that they are totally scared of and try to disproof desperately.

Which brings us to Bedini and the Back-EMF.

In High Power Grids they often have problems with unconnecting cables with huge currents. Even tho they are unconnected, the currents arc right trough the air, trying to remain connected. During these extreme arcing phenomena energies are being dissipated that are bejond any explanation, except maybe for socalled electron avalanche phenomena.

This tendency of current flow, to conserve a state of flowing, is similar to the conservation of motion of mass (at least similar when trying to stop it), the inertia of mass, although in electrical inertia newtons law cannot explain where it comes from.

It is this inertia, this elasticity, that has the ability to pull energy from unnamed sources. If you ever manage to gather a gain from Back-EMF harvesting, it is this inertia phenomenon that has pulled it from the space-time equilibrium (I love the sound of that one). But as I said before, it is the amount of change of field strentgh that gives the energy output. So if you can increase the magnitude or frequency of those changes AT NO COST (eg. by interrupting a current frequently, that would flow otherwise almost like DC) then you may achieve energy gain. Esp. since every interruption causes a back EMF that by it's own bears a huge magnitude.

But yes, SSGs have losses. Nevertheless, it's a start for experimentation.

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2016, 11:57:45 PM »
See the reality is BACK EMF is COMPLETELY A FREE ENERGY WHICH CAN CONSTANSTLY BE HLGAINED USING HIGH FREQUENCY HIGH VOLTAGE AT THE CORRECT DUTY CYCLE.

YOU CAN ONLY HARVEST BACK EMF WITH HIGH FREQUENCY DIODES AND HIGH VOLTAGE DC CAPACTORS

BUT TO REALLY REALLY BE ABLE TO HARVEST BACK EMF YOU NEED CAPACITORLIKE WOUND AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

 BY CAPACITORLIKE WINDING I MEAN EACHBLAYERS OFNWINDING IN SPIRAL FORM MUST BE WELL INSULATED FROM THE OVERLAPPING ONE. THIS WILL MAKEBTHE ELECTROMAGNET TO STORE AND RELEASE HIGH DESISITY OF ENERGY.

YOU MUST WIND THE COIL IN SPIRAL AND USE TWISTED MULTIFILAR WIRES (not bifilar) TO MAKE THE AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BUT AIRCORE IS NOT THE BEST IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH FREQUENCY CORE USING MAGNETITE AND EPOXY.  IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS, THEN THE HIGH FREQUENCY COULD E WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE FREE ENERGY THAN YOU EVER IMMAGINE.

IT IS AT HIGH FREQUENCY THAT THE FREE HIGH FREQUENCY ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR IS MOVING AND CAN BE LURED BY AN HARVESTER (electromagnet).



Solid state switch is the best but hard to make and maintained if you do not understands the know how about it. The Permanent magnet in Benoni SG are not really needed when you use Solid state High Voltage High Frequency Switch. 




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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2016, 04:02:32 AM »
I am addressing the last three posters: Brad, dieter and darediamond collectively, ie, in the same post, as there are topics of interest in each which tend to have some overlap and bear on this subject.

Brad's quote

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The problem with finding Tesla's true meaning of radiant energy,is that his words and work have been riddled with other peoples attempts at understanding his work,and re written in words that were not Tesla's--the grape vine takes hold.

Perhaps he was referring to atmospheric power?.
The potential difference between ground,and 35km up,is a whopping 300 000 volts.
We would only need 10mA of current to have 3000 watts of power. Maybe Tesla found a way to set up some sort of resonant or gathering system to harness this potential energy-->some sort of electrical pumping system?."

Tesla mentioned this apparently in his speech on The Magnifying Transmitter:
"The truth is this: In the air the potential increases at the rate of about fifty volts per foot of elevation, owing to which there may be a difference of pressure amounting to twenty, or even forty thousand volts between the upper and lower ends of the antenna. The masses of the charged atmosphere are constantly in motion and give up electricity to the conductor, not continuously, but rather disruptively, this producing a grinding noise in a sensitive telephonic receiver. The higher the terminal and the greater the space encompassed by the wires, the more pronounced is the effect, but it must be understood that it is purely local and has little to do with the real trouble."

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I myself,prefer working with permanent magnets immerse in pulsing electromagnetic fields,but where the electromagnetic fields also have physical motion-in that the inductor moves with time.

I thought about the concept of movement of a permanent magnet through or past a wire wound coil and my question was "How far does the magnet have to travel to induce any current or voltage?" I say that because I was thinking, can the magnet travel a very small distance because of some resonance or frequency established in the magnet itself and thus satisfy the requirement? This would be something like I envision a crystal oscillator to be. Some small electric voltage is applied to this crystalline material and it vibrates at a given frequency. Why not a permanent magnet likewise?


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But as I said before, it is the amount of change of field strentgh that gives the energy output. So if you can increase the magnitude or frequency of those changes AT NO COST (eg. by interrupting a current frequently, that would flow otherwise almost like DC) then you may achieve energy gain. Esp. since every interruption causes a back EMF that by it's own bears a huge magnitude.

Perfect for the air core coil experiments with a high frequency pulse. Or see below after darediamond in my response

Now the question becomes how complicated of a circuit is needed to achieve these pulsations?

Should a Tesla coil be part of the answer? The reason I ask this is because so many of the videos and instructibles I have watched concerning the Tesla coils, especially the SSTCs describe problems with mosfet overheating, proper resonance related to the correct number of primary turns and secondary turns. How long is the coil and how wide? Seems like endless possibilities. Also too, I am not trying to produce any sparking or displays of such a nature as we usually associate with the Tesla coils.

On TinselKoalas video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQkCW5vZVc
he talks about the CD4046BE Phase Locked Loop (PLL) which contains its own Voltage Controlled Oscillator (VCO). This could be good for a setup like this even without trying to cause sparks or corona, or as seen below maybe with a carbonyl iron material.



darediamond quote:
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YOU CAN ONLY HARVEST BACK EMF WITH HIGH FREQUENCY DIODES AND HIGH VOLTAGE DC CAPACTORS

BUT TO REALLY REALLY BE ABLE TO HARVEST BACK EMF YOU NEED CAPACITORLIKE WOUND AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

 BY CAPACITORLIKE WINDING I MEAN EACHBLAYERS OFNWINDING IN SPIRAL FORM MUST BE WELL INSULATED FROM THE OVERLAPPING ONE. THIS WILL MAKEBTHE ELECTROMAGNET TO STORE AND RELEASE HIGH DESISITY OF ENERGY.

YOU MUST WIND THE COIL IN SPIRAL AND USE TWISTED MULTIFILAR WIRES (not bifilar) TO MAKE THE AIRCORE ELECTROMAGNET.

BUT AIRCORE IS NOT THE BEST IF YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN HIGH FREQUENCY CORE USING MAGNETITE AND EPOXY.  IF YOU CAN MAKE THIS, THEN THE HIGH FREQUENCY COULD E WILL ALLOW YOU TO GET MORE FREE ENERGY THAN YOU EVER IMMAGINE.


Why isn't the standard magnet wire enough insulation in this case?
I have seen that there is a Carbonyl iron material that is used in high frequency applications so this might be preferable to a pure air coil for magnetic field generation and energy harvesting even at high frequencies if they work as good as that.

While on Ebay I see that some people were selling these carbonyl iron toroidal cores. I would consider stacking them and glueing with epoxy to keep them aligned if anyoine thinks this could be a reasonable substitute. I did that on a similar setup I was working on with a Joule thief circuit designed by lasersaber.

I would even consider buying them and crushing them to powder and reglueing them in some way to make a custom core if that would work.

Anyway, lots to think about, discuss, and create some experiments. Some of you all who actually may have a Tesla coil in the closet can help, especially if you have an oscilloscope setup to take readings for us.

thanks everyone for sharing ideas. I'd love to see some things gel.
earthbound

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2016, 05:06:38 PM »
I am addressing the last three posters: Brad, dieter and darediamond collectively, ie, in the same post, as there are topics of interest in each which tend to have some overlap and bear on this subject.

Brad's quote

Tesla mentioned this apparently in his speech on The Magnifying Transmitter:
"The truth is this: In the air the potential increases at the rate of about fifty volts per foot of elevation, owing to which there may be a difference of pressure amounting to twenty, or even forty thousand volts between the upper and lower ends of the antenna. The masses of the charged atmosphere are constantly in motion and give up electricity to the conductor, not continuously, but rather disruptively, this producing a grinding noise in a sensitive telephonic receiver. The higher the terminal and the greater the space encompassed by the wires, the more pronounced is the effect, but it must be understood that it is purely local and has little to do with the real trouble."

I thought about the concept of movement of a permanent magnet through or past a wire wound coil and my question was "How far does the magnet have to travel to induce any current or voltage?" I say that because I was thinking, can the magnet travel a very small distance because of some resonance or frequency established in the magnet itself and thus satisfy the requirement? This would be something like I envision a crystal oscillator to be. Some small electric voltage is applied to this crystalline material and it vibrates at a given frequency. Why not a permanent magnet likewise?


dieter quote:
Perfect for the air core coil experiments with a high frequency pulse. Or see below after darediamond in my response

Now the question becomes how complicated of a circuit is needed to achieve these pulsations?

Should a Tesla coil be part of the answer? The reason I ask this is because so many of the videos and instructibles I have watched concerning the Tesla coils, especially the SSTCs describe problems with mosfet overheating, proper resonance related to the correct number of primary turns and secondary turns. How long is the coil and how wide? Seems like endless possibilities. Also too, I am not trying to produce any sparking or displays of such a nature as we usually associate with the Tesla coils.

On TinselKoalas video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQkCW5vZVc
he talks about the CD4046BE Phase Locked Loop (PLL) which contains its own Voltage Controlled Oscillator (VCO). This could be good for a setup like this even without trying to cause sparks or corona, or as seen below maybe with a carbonyl iron material.



darediamond quote:

Why isn't the standard magnet wire enough insulation in this case?
I have seen that there is a Carbonyl iron material that is used in high frequency applications so this might be preferable to a pure air coil for magnetic field generation and energy harvesting even at high frequencies if they work as good as that.

While on Ebay I see that some people were selling these carbonyl iron toroidal cores. I would consider stacking them and glueing with epoxy to keep them aligned if anyoine thinks this could be a reasonable substitute. I did that on a similar setup I was working on with a Joule thief circuit designed by lasersaber.

I would even consider buying them and crushing them to powder and reglueing them in some way to make a custom core if that would work.

Anyway, lots to think about, discuss, and create some experiments. Some of you all who actually may have a Tesla coil in the closet can help, especially if you have an oscilloscope setup to take readings for us.

thanks everyone for sharing ideas. I'd love to see some things gel.
earthbound
The coating on the magnet wire is not whatbis needed to separate each layers of Spirally would did this time. You need plastic tape or any other dielectric material to separate each layers of spirally wound plate to get the effect I am talking about.
I think you know how normal capacitors are made.
You can also mimic the process when winding g your ele tromagnet to get the best result.

Wish I am able to  explain this via video but can not do that now.

But I want to reassure you that THERE IS REALL FREE ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR WHICH CAN BE HARVESTED TO POWER JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT NEEDS ELE TRICAL POWER TO WORK

Now as for sparks that is always generated when  pulsing DC is applied to an electromagnet,  just connect the 2 leads of your Electromagnet in parallel with leads of the high voltage AC Capacitor. You can use the normal CBB capacitor of 475J which is 400V 3.5uf or so.

Simply connect in series the amount that will make ii ten fold the amount of voltage you send to your Electromagnet

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2016, 10:48:18 PM »
hello ltseung888,

I looked at several of these videos via the link provided which in turn linked to others. As noted by one of the  viewers, manual control of the pulse is poor at best and humans don't focus that well on the timing, but the automatically sensed trigger of at least a bifilar coil arrangement as Bedini included in his designs is good, or using a hall effect sensor arrangement. I didn't really understand what the point was in the videos you supplied, which seemed to be going over old ground. Maybe I missed something.

earthbound

The point is to determine what are good pulses and bad pulses.

I would regard those pulses with large negative voltage and positive current at both leading and trailing edges as good pulses. 

The manual action is to capture and examine one pulse to see its characteristics.

So far, we have found the exact timing and the duration of the pulse are important factors.  Different people or different attempts produced vastly different pulses.  Most of them are bad.

It is likely that automatic pulse motors may produce some good pulses and some bad ones.  The Tong Wheel was such an example.  I am sure that many poorly hand built Bedini wheels are in same position.

Thus I advocate the examination of the pulse waveforms is vital in the research.   

*** The good pulses lead-out energy.  The bad ones are like pushing the swing at the wrong time.  They generate heat and waste energy.  A mixture of good and bad pulses in the system is bad.

*** From the waveforms, the sharp high negative voltage has duration of less than 2ms.  Can all the "properly" constructed pulse motors do that?

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2016, 02:23:19 AM »
darediamond quote

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The coating on the magnet wire is not whatbis needed to separate each layers of Spirally would did this time. You need plastic tape or any other dielectric material to separate each layers of spirally wound plate to get the effect I am talking about.
I think you know how normal capacitors are made.
You can also mimic the process when winding g your ele tromagnet to get the best result.

Wish I am able to  explain this via video but can not do that now.

But I want to reassure you that THERE IS REALL FREE ELECTRICITY IN THE AIR WHICH CAN BE HARVESTED TO POWER JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT NEEDS ELE TRICAL POWER TO WORK

Now as for sparks that is always generated when  pulsing DC is applied to an electromagnet,  just connect the 2 leads of your Electromagnet in parallel with leads of the high voltage AC Capacitor. You can use the normal CBB capacitor of 475J which is 400V 3.5uf or so.

Simply connect in series the amount that will make ii ten fold the amount of voltage you send to your Electromagnet

Ok, focusing on the dielectric winding first. I see that mylar film will fulfill this obligation with a dielectric constant of 3.1 while teflon is 2.1, but is much more expensive.
I have plenty of 20gg magnet wire just to experiment with. I would like to try this out first since I feel it would be a relatively inexpensive trial.

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Now as for sparks that is always generated when  pulsing DC is applied to an electromagnet,  just connect the 2 leads of your Electromagnet in parallel with leads of the high voltage AC Capacitor. You can use the normal CBB capacitor of 475J which is 400V 3.5uf or so.

I saw these on Ebay today:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plastic-Polypropylene-Ceiling-Fan-Capacitor-CBB61-4uf-450VAC-2-Wire-50-60Hz-M-/321606159849?hash=item4ae1388de9:g:9twAAOSwiCRUf0Cs


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Simply connect in series the amount that will make ii ten fold the amount of voltage you send to your Electromagnet

So far I am only working on 12v dc from a 12v 18AH rechargeable, not even AC at this point. Again I am not looking at spark production, only energy harvesting.

earthbound

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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2016, 04:38:00 AM »
ltseung888:
can't believe I missed your post. sorry about that.

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Thus I advocate the examination of the pulse waveforms is vital in the research.   

*** The good pulses lead-out energy.  The bad ones are like pushing the swing at the wrong time.  They generate heat and waste energy.  A mixture of good and bad pulses in the system is bad.

*** From the waveforms, the sharp high negative voltage has duration of less than 2ms.  Can all the "properly" constructed pulse motors do that?

I think most would agree that the waveform analysis with a scope would be ideal for perfecting the rotational moment for the correct timing of the firing of the pulse in those cases.

I am not looking at rotational motion myself, but nevertheless, feel that the appropriate resonance in my circuit would be advantageous, like the suggestions by TinselKoala for PLL and VCO control.
I am focusing more on high frequency circuits and coils. At this juncture, I am trying to read up on the CD4046 PLL/VCO chip, PLLs in general as I see that as a path I need to investigate more fully.
Also, I want to study more on the electrical rationale for the way in which a SSTC is built, and what changes cause other changes to occur.

I did download and print the circuit by uzzor from his website as a study guide. I don't understand the rationale for the 555 timer circuit as the Interrupter though. There are several Class E circuits here.:
http://uzzors2k.4hv.org/index.php?page=hv

earthbound



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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2016, 08:25:00 AM »
TinselKoil IX (PLL SSTC) with 555 interruptor demonstration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeTlcroP0Ls


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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2016, 01:03:08 PM »
ltseung888:
can't believe I missed your post. sorry about that.

I think most would agree that the waveform analysis with a scope would be ideal for perfecting the rotational moment for the correct timing of the firing of the pulse in those cases.

...
earthbound

I regard the negative energy (negative voltage x positive current) as Lead-out energy...  The goal is to maximize it.

In the pulse motor competition, it may be a good idea to examine the waveform.

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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2016, 02:48:08 AM »
What I forgot to mention was: Assuming you managed to frequently interrupt the current flow (eg. the one induced by your Bedini wheel) and this results in a dense cummulation of voltage changes - then you still have no gain. What you need to do, is, you need to push this trough a low inductance 1:1 transformer and only then the frequent voltage changes are turned into frequent magnetic field strength changes, and only they have this feature by which energy increases with frequency. That may be a ferrite ring core with few turns.

Speaking of which, a joule thief could be used as a interruptor trigger. They normally run somewhere between 15 and 100 kHz. Instead of your LED you would then trigger a GTO, which is the solid state equivalent of a relay. The GTO would then interrupt the current, as described earlier. Using Mosfets and Transistors is always rather lossy  IMHO. However, as a low/cheap tech version you may use a simple bell-ringing interruptor: As the current flows trough an additional coil, it causes a magnetic field that pushes a contact that interrupts the cirquit, hence no more flow, hence no more magnet, the contact is reestablished and the current starts flowing again.... Really low tech.

Tesla coil is about high voltage. Not sure if it is what you need here.
But you're right, he used the term "Radiant Energy" in both, the magnifying transmitter and the collector for radiant energy patents, if I recall correctly.


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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2016, 12:20:28 AM »
hi dieter, and others

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Assuming you managed to frequently interrupt the current flow (eg. the one induced by your Bedini wheel) and this results in a dense cummulation of voltage changes - then you still have no gain. What you need to do, is, you need to push this trough a low inductance 1:1 transformer and only then the frequent voltage changes are turned into frequent magnetic field strength changes, and only they have this feature by which energy increases with frequency. That may be a ferrite ring core with few turns.

The Bedini is interrupted by the magnets passing the trigger coil which then affects the TIP3055, or whatever transistor you're using, to fire the main coil winding.

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Tesla coil is about high voltage. Not sure if it is what you need here.
Yes, this is where this is going.

Either the air coil type or a carbonyl iron core which does operate at high frequencies may be satisfactory with a PLL interrupted circuit like TinselKoala mentioned, and others use in their high frequency tesla coils, the SSTC PLL circuits. Definitely experimentation is in order here because most who have posted about Tesla coils of any type are only pointing out what their coil can do in relation to the discharges, not really measuring the energy from the high frequency pulsing of the coil itself at the field collapse interval,  and this what I am interested in.

TinselKoala on the other hand in this vid on Youtube does show some oscilloscope tracings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeTlcroP0Ls
I can't make heads or tails of these, except to note the frequencies which are visible. I couldn't tell how high the voltage spikes were. Can you elaborate on those tracings TinselKoala?

Of course, anyone here who has a Tesla coil and an oscilloscope with the right frequency capabilities can already possibly do this. I appeal to any of our other members to look into this for us and post it, either in Youtube format or maybe some still pictures for us here. According to the Tesla data I have read, high frequencies with low on times (less than 100 microseconds) of the energy pulse seem to be safest, according to Peter Lindemann in "The Free Energy Secrets of Cold Electricity." Also, the energy should first be stored in high capacitance capacitors that are discharged quickly.

Again, experimentation is important, but time and money intensive. I definitely do not want to reinvent the wheel. That is wasteful in more than one ways.

Also anyone working at a decent sized research university, especially in the Physics or Electrical Engineering department could be very contributory here. Plus you all should have some great experimental tools at your disposal which most of us could not afford directly.

thanks for everyone's input and help. for those I have not directly replied to at the moment, please be patient. Sometimes I can't get back too quickly, but I am also seeing and reviewing other peoples research and circuit designs to become more educated here. electronics is not my first love.

earthbound.
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Re: Reviewing Pulse Motor Circuit Ideas and Theory
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2016, 01:31:33 AM »
With further thought and not really trying to build the Tesla coil to generate sparks, but build the secondary coil itself and use it as my Mains coil ala the Bedini style circuit.

Can I merely add a 555 timer circuit (set up properly) to trigger the NPN transistor to the medium to high frequency range as delineated in the posted frequency bands so that my Tesla coil secondary can respond as the main coil in the Bedini type circuit?

Next question, can this be kept in the lower voltage dc range, like 12-24volts?

We can work on the correct programming for the timer circuit soon, or if anyone already knows, please share.

thanks a bunch from everyone who has participated so far.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2016, 03:45:21 AM »
Here is at least 1 circuit I saw posted that may be a start point with an explanation.

http://www.electroschematics.com/4843/1-hz-pulse-generator/

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re is a 1Hz pulse/frequency generator using the popular timer IC 555 which is wired as an Astable Multivibrator. The output pulses can be indicated visually by the LED. An Astable Multivibrator, often called a free-running Multivibrator, is a rectangular-wave generating circuit. Unlike the Monostable Multivibrator, this circuit does not require any external trigger to change the state of the output, hence the name free-running. This circuit can be used in applications that require clock pulses.

Schematic of the 1Hz Pulse Generator Circuit
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555 1Hz pulse generator circuit

555 datasheet
An Astable Multivibrator can be produced by adding resistors and a capacitor to the basic timer IC 555.The timing during which the output is either high or low is determined by the externally connected two resistors and a capacitor.

Clock: A clock is simply a square wave i.e. alternate high & low states. Each alternate high-low forms a clock cycle with a specific frequency & duty cycle. Frequency is the number of cycles completed in 1 sec & duty cycle is the ratio of the time period of high state to the time period of the low state.



We can set the 555 to work at the desired frequency by selecting the right combination of resistances & capacitance.

Frequency = 1.44 / {(R1 + 2R2) * C1}

Also, 555 can produce waves with duty cycle else than the 50 % cycle.

Duty Cycle = (R1 + R2) * 100/ (R1 + 2R2)
where duty cycle = Ratio of time period when the output is 1 to the time period when the output is 0.



Circuit Working

Capacitor C1 begins charging toward VCC through resistances R1 and R2 (VR). Because of this, the charging time constant is (R1 + R2( VR)) C. Eventually, the threshold voltage exceeds +2/3 VCC, the comparator 1 has a high output and triggers the flip-flop so that its Q is high and the timer output is low. With Q high, the discharge transistor saturates and pin 7 grounds so that the capacitor C1 discharges through resistance R2 (VR) with a discharging time constant R2 C.

With the discharging of capacitor, trigger voltage at inverting input of comparator 2 decreases. When it drops below 1/3VCC, the output of comparator 2 goes high and this reset the flip-flop so that the timer output is high. This proves the auto-transition in output from low to high and then to low. Thus the cycle repeats.


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