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Permanente

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2016, 03:13:02 PM »
Thanks for the replies guys!!

I think you guys are on to something with the politics of energy and etc... Everything always comes down to a business model and the "HAVES" imposing their rules on the "HAVENOTS."

If you want to break into their world you probably would have to play by their rules. I for myself know alot of people that are perfectly fine with skirting the line or avoiding the empirical structure all together.

you know beatniks at heart.

I figure with enough energy you can literally take care of almost all other necessities. Dehumidifier for water (with filtration system), ac and heater for temp control, light for seeing and tv/entertainmentl, and of course to power up tools and equipment to make your life easier

So a magical powerbox would make everything simpler for me.

So basically in the real world the main issue is everyone is a slave to the power grid even if they dont know it. And if that were to collapse or go offline for X reasons chaos ensues.


Online on the other hand the things i am seeing is a bunch of clickbait, outright scams, and an overall unhealthy environment when it comes to energy discussions.

I dont believe it is too difficult of a contraption (magicbox) i just really am not well versed in a lot of physics principles.

It does not have to be necessarily overunity (more out than came in).
It does not have to be perpetual motion (the earth wont exist forever anyway)

it does need to produce energy from fuel that is readily available.

Main contenders I think a combination of many or all of these could really work

Gravity + momentum + bouyancy + inertia + magnetism

Somehow someway get a flywheel spinning on its own...


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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2016, 07:57:03 PM »
Hi if your interested there is a way but It will need some work. I showed this before . go look at the formula for a a string of capacitors in series you will see that the total is equal to the total divided by the number of caps. (All caps being equal in uf's) including the first cap.the charging cap put a positive charge on it and a earth ground on the last cap. And all the calls will generate equal charges.the first cap you will have to charge but the rest charge them selves. By inductance aka free.the more caps the less you have to charge to get the same results.

Pos-----l I------I I------ll------l l --------l l ------(earth ground)
(Applied.    Free. Free  free   free

It's like taking a pitcher of water you would have to work for dividing it up into ten glasses you still have the original water but now you worked for only one glass.power extraction is different in that each cap needs to be discharged individually or you just screw it up .but it refills right away. Also if you measure the caps while they are still in series the voltages will be different because of there interrelated state but the charges are all the same. If you study this out on the internet you will see but you will need to go to the area of physics they don't tell all at any one site but collectively they tell it all. It's been with us like from the beginning and no one sees it. Strange like a mental block or programed avoidance.?   Jim out

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2016, 08:23:45 PM »
Hi I just read the others posts and there wrong this system is like nature's way of making lighting Thu electrostatic induction . you see any lighting on a sunny day ? No but thru clouds and water vapor and random charges and proximity with other clouds bang!! Something from nothing and it can kill you!! .those boys are closed system people sure your not going to get any were that way it's a zero sum system.! You have to be in an open system. This really gets something from nothing.same way nature does it by attracting the current Thu a strong positive or negative charge they just come trying to rebalance there environment. It's called regauging. You will never get it done in a closed system that's why they keep you there your a dog chasing your tail. Jim out  ::hell even Tesla said the same thing "connect to wheelworks of the universe " not a closed loop.☑

memoryman

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2016, 09:56:18 PM »
jimbo, I suggest that you learn some elementary electricity.

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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2016, 08:18:34 AM »
I am a cet and i have second class FCC license yet I need more or is it the other way around.? This area is not studied  from conduction to induction .explain the circuit please .and why I'm wrong. Not just hit and run.

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2016, 01:38:16 PM »
Jimbo, the cap circuit will never work.  There is no electrostatic charge on the negative plate of the first capacitor compared to the earths potential. Nothing to be ashamed about as it is an easy misconception which takes some time to comprehend. Although there are more electrons on the negative plate of the capacitor, when charged, that extra charge is compensated by the lesser electrons on the positive plate. This'' locks  those extra electrons up at the surface of the negative plate that faces the positive plate.  The result of all this is no net electrostatic charge on either plate compared to the earth.  If you don't believe it, charge up a cap and measure either lead to earth.

memoryman

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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2016, 05:18:56 PM »
jimbo, if you are indeed a Certified Engineering Technician/Technologist (as I am) in electronics, you are lacking in the fundamentals. I don't wish to spend my time on teaching elemental; others can do that if they wish. Pomodore did a good job of it.

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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2016, 07:51:29 PM »
Hi guys I've built it and worked it it's not an academic subject it's on the bench that's the problem now days everything is conjecture I used the POS DC of 119 volts from a inverter with no negative with a battery on rubber no grounding just the earth ground to the last cap. Bedini said you could charge cap this way so I tried it and added more caps they all charged ! And because DC can't go Thu a cap the completely isolated caps in the middle charged by static induction polarizing each other.I'm looking to a solid state layout now with a timing circuit to trigger MOSFETs. It's like a pump for electrons. Now you go try it .or are you so programed by the Establishment you just can't bring your self to.or are you the Establishment!?

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2016, 07:59:58 PM »
 if you can't layout the problem then you really don't see one or you would. Just insulting people is not the scientific method. And it's not like it's a big expensive time consuming project .what three caps and a earth ground and 100 volts DC. A kid can work it. Hell I used 12volts and worked it.

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2016, 08:20:04 PM »
Charging caps this way is exactly like the very simple physics lab experiment of taking a POS charged source like a balloon and bring another uncharged balloon near then touching it to ground the billion charges but there its caps this is very old science .and when you discharge these caps they do work.like lighting up a light bulb or charge a battery. And if you can go fast run a motor.this is real free energy. Created from nothing but proximity to a charge source .and not taking anything from the source.it's probably the only free energy production  in nature.and it's as clean as hell green nothing compares. I just hope the rest of the world can get past you guys and try this .we might get some where.

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2016, 10:46:30 PM »
So, when can we buy this 'free energy' system in a real product?

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2016, 11:06:14 PM »
I'm not selling it I'm giving it away for any one to build .still working on the switching .open source. Needs attention .making the power not the problem making in a form that's usefull. It's pulsed and has to be made AC 110. Or DC 14 volt .a lot of work and I'm getting on in years.just through a few parts together and take a look.

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Re: Any ACTUAL OU devices on this whole forum
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2016, 10:54:47 PM »
So if I am reading you correctly jimbo, (and please mind me.. again i am not necessarily a electric  or physics professional in any way just started to learn very basics)

You are running capacitors in series and only one capacitor has charge (the first one)

the last capacitor is grounded to the earth and the rest of them are basically sucking up electricity from ??

satic field or aether field or mother earths magnetic juice magic right??

Can you give me a simpleparts list to try and recreate?

you said you ran it on 12 volts right??


and everyone else please please no fighting and internet bullshit lets try and keep it civilized




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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2016, 10:58:53 PM »
I AM an electronics professional (>50 years) and this is nonsense. Of course jimbo isn't selling anything: he has nothing to sell. No product can or will ever be made based on these principles.

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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2016, 11:29:36 PM »
It's not pulling any thing from the ground  except for the last cap that's connected to ground there's really no current flowing Thu the caps each cap is responding to the front charge and regauging to it causing a polarizing of the caps and at that point you can remove the charge by shorting out the caps one by one . it's more impressive with 119 volts DC and 60 uf caps but yes I've done 12volts if you put a amp meter in the string you can see the current flowing than stop .all full up. Keep the cap sizes the same and don't exceed the voltage ratings and you should be safe. I got my caps on eBay for 11.00 apiece 60 uf@440 volts and with them I was lighting up 4 watt bulbs. Right not real no value no work .I was melting off the tip of my screw drivers with caps that can't possibly be getting a charge. Being blocked by several dialectics DC doesn't go Thu dialectics but the charge was there bang bang band over and over. This is something old school has over looked or are hiding . just trying to keep everyone in economic slavery except them. PS if you have trouble with your set up just let me know what you've done iwill try and get you up and running.