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Author Topic: Bike runs on water 100 % - No Gasoline - Microwave Pulse Generator Water Split  (Read 48938 times)

Offline ARMCORTEX

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I think its worth to become ''life-committed'' tho, even tho it looks complicated, these RF arrangements are just no fun, difficult, expensive to measure.

But, an RF engineer does make money, useful thing to study.




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Here are some News from a greek user that commented on my last video:

Sotiris Papadelos1 day ago
1) he was hiding with white tape the electronic board with the 3 phase radio wave emitters
2 ) his invention is using a material that act as a torch, Ag in this case, so he can break Apart the molecule at low frequencies.
No need to reach the 6-7 pico hertz, the natural hydrolysis frequency that needs huge amount of energy.         

overunitydotcom1 day ago+Sotiris Papadelos
So you say the metal plate is just a silver plate ? I have read in one article that he is using colloidal silver somewhere in his new reactor...
Hmm, can you confirm that in this in vitro glas test tube he used a silver plate as the virtual electrode ? Looked more like a brass metal plate... hmm...       
   
Sotirios Papadel1 day ago+overunitydotcom colloidal silver is used at water tanks for permanent hydrolysis.
Silver plate is used here to explain and present the phenomenon of amplifying the resonance through this plate, acting as an electromagnetic torch.
It does not work as virtual electrode.

overunitydotcom11 hours ago+Sotirios Papadel
I see, but how does he do it in his new reactor, where he pulls seawater directly from the Greek shoreline and puts it into his reactor..
Where does he have there colloidal silver ? Did he add this before or does the RF frequency mix generate from the silver plate some colloidale silver particles to be released from the metal and are surrounding the silver plate as a colloidal fluid then ?

overunitydotcom11 hours ago+Sotiris Papadelos
Are also the 3 phase radio wave emitters powered by the 7.5 Volts and 50 mA, so only by 350 MilliWatts of input power ? Or were they powered by Li-Ion batteries below the tape somehow ?

Sotiris Papadelos2 hours ago+overunitydotcom
He has placed colloidal silver in a pill form, and place it within the sea water tank. When the colloidal silver is decomposed, the amplifying effect stops,  and silver changes to precipitation form. It then needs electrophoresis to come over to its original properties.

Sotiris Papadelos2 hours ago +overunitydotcom
The emitters must always run at 350MilliWatts. He can either have an external source for that or, Through redox with special coating can create this small amount of power, or in later stage video, Mr Zografos has created a polymer membrane that when comes to Hydroxy (HHO) contact, divertes directly the HHO gas to electricity and then powers the emitters and the external loads. That is the 2nd scientific Breakthrough of the invention. http://www.hellagen.gr/

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We should not move into more difficult to scrutinize territory. The test tube needs to be answered first and foremost as this is clearly a new discovery or a con. Where is the oxygen gone ?  And secondly, if the water split is catalyzed as claimed, why is the test tube not freezing? You see, even if catalyzed by silver platinum or a mystical stone, when the H-O bond is vibrated enough to split, energy will be ' sucked' from surroundings and the test tube cooled. Looking at the large amount of hydrogen boiling out , and only mW  from RF,  the rest will come from surroundings, similar in a way to  when  liquified gases expand. And it will be a massive amount of cooling, enough to see condensation on the outside of the test tube.
Can your contact get answers Chet?

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Yes
I have asked the Inventor and his representative {Lawyer] to address certain issues , mostly for a simple gas spectrometer test
to start with . [ which as mentioned prior,  is available quite easily in Greece's Auto emission's testing infrastructure .

It is not clear at this point where this will ultimately Go ? His Lawyer mentioned the next Month would be a time for decision making ?

Please keep all input here respectful , I did not get the feeling that the Inventor or his representative will shy away from Further testing and validation !



respectfully
Chet



 




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Sotiris Papadelos:
It is completely different concept. Electrolysis is using direct current  with large currents DC,
Mr Zografos in this case is using radio waves, at
limited amount of energy. A correct term is palmolisis.


overunitydotcom:
Can you please explain, what palmolisis means ? Where does he use the colloidal silver ?
Is that generated from the Silver plate electrode on the fly while the microwave is bombarding the metal alloy plate ( Silver plate ? )
or does he need to put colloidal silver water there also in there into the test tube ?


Sotirios Papadel:
palmos in Greek means pulse. Since Mr Zografos tech is using series of radio waves to pulse the water molecule by vibrating and finally break it apart, the correct term should be palmolisis. Colloidal silver is used for a permanent phenomenon as seen in the
bike in a next video.

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Yes
I have asked the Inventor and his representative {Lawyer] to address certain issues , mostly for a simple gas spectrometer test
to start with . [ which as mentioned prior,  is available quite easily in Greece's Auto emission's testing infrastructure .

It is not clear at this point where this will ultimately Go ? His Lawyer mentioned the next Month would be a time for decision making ?

Please keep all input here respectful , I did not get the feeling that the Inventor or his representative will shy away from Further testing and validation !



respectfully
Chet


I always find the most simple way to eliminate any doubt in the past is to do an emissions test on the scooter. Like the water powered bike on 60 minutes in NZ it was busted when they found hydrocarbons in the exhaust. I used the same method many times myself.
A gas spectrometer test would alos be very nice[/size]
Kind Regards
Mark

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The flame is not hydrogen. The yellow is from carbon. Most likely methanol, which only has a small amount of carbon and burns just like that.  Metal is heated inductively and boils methanol at 65C leaving behing the water it was mixed with. It was mixed so it wouldn't burn. You can tell its boiling because the bubbles are huge. Electrolysis and gas evolution on metals give very fine bubbles - always.


This is correct observation
It takes from 40:15 to 41:21 to 'cook' the liquid.
If this was true 'palmolisis' it should start immediately,

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the 60 mins , Steve Ryans motor bike was not "busted" by a CO2 emission test

ALL vehicles that use oil in the engine will show CO2 in an emission test no matter what fuel is used
it doesnt matter if its 30/40 or sun flower oil .  Oil gets past the rings in ALL motors .
No hydrogen powered piston motor would pass a test with out showing CO2

No Hydrogen invention can make it to the market in an oil based economy OR an electric vehicle economy
 

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the 60 mins , Steve Ryans motor bike was not "busted" by a CO2 emission test

ALL vehicles that use oil in the engine will show CO2 in an emission test no matter what fuel is used
it doesnt matter if its 30/40 or sun flower oil .  Oil gets past the rings in ALL motors .
No hydrogen powered piston motor would pass a test with out showing CO2

No Hydrogen invention can make it to the market in an oil based economy OR an electric vehicle economy
Your right it was not the CO2 it was the hydrocarbons and yes an allowence is made for the combustion of the lubricating oils.
I have worked with over 6 emmissions testing

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burn like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8xYUDiSGDk
Color Natrium
Kanzius used the principle of inductively coupled plasma.  Look up ICP-OES or ICP-AES.

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@massive: is that true if only synthetics lubricant are used?

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You are quite wrong.

Look at this how pure hydrogen burns and compare this with the Zografos flame.
https://youtu.be/OQ-oFO_TFOw?t=3m15s
The yellow flame comes from Natrium or Carbon ions impurities in the H2 gas or here in this video from
the burning plastic tube and its Carbon content....


If that were pure hydrogen, I wouldn't be within 50 feet of them. The flame alone tells you it is not pure hydrogen.

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This is correct observation
It takes from 40:15 to 41:21 to 'cook' the liquid.
If this was true 'palmolisis' it should start immediately,


Also note that while the extremity of the flame is yellowish, the body of the flame is blue in the picture you posted.

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Hre is a quick test. Looks like he might be using ethanol.

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