Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe? (Read 217860 times)

gravityblock · « **Reply #255 on:** June 19, 2016, 03:23:31 AM »

Quote from: webby1 on June 19, 2016, 03:00:44 AM

I will actually choose to run with my own test I have carried out over the years.

Velocity is a VERY relative value,, and it is very easy to get confused.

I would suggest that you do some simple tests and calculations that the tests will confirm,,

A large diameter wheel and some string and a spring and a weight,, PI is close enough to calculate the velocity of the "rim" distance.

What you will find is that there are several ways of looking at what is what,, bottom line the larger the diameter the smaller the radians per second to hit the same velocity. 2pi/360

Now make your aquarium have a length the same as the diameter of the Earth,, how fast must you rotate the aquarium to have a "rim" velocity of 1000MPH?,, one revolution per day maybe.

CP/CF,, the water spins out and away CF,, gravity pulls it back in CP,, CF pushes the water out to the edge of the tank,, CP is the tank wall pushing the water back in.

These I play with all the time,, and there are actually conditions where "rim" velocity is considered,, it can rip a flywheel apart,, especially when the mass is out at the edge.

I will go back to what I said,, velocity is very relative,, as such the "rim" velocity to a spoke holding that rim is zero.

According to the table in the Machinery's Handbook on safe speeds, the bigger the object, the slower the safe spin! If a 10 ft. jet engine fan made of metal can barely survive 1000 mph, do you honestly believe sand and water inside a rotating aquarium the size of the earth with a rim velocity of 1000 mph can do better?

Gravock

partzman · « **Reply #256 on:** June 19, 2016, 03:25:06 AM »

Hmmmm!

What about the documented statement from Dr. Auguste Piccard in the August issue of Popular Science in 1931 after his successful balloon assent to approximately 10 miles above earth that "it seemed as a flat disc with up-turned edges" when asked how the earth appeared at that altitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1p2WQLQak

Jus sayin!

partzman

gravityblock · « **Reply #257 on:** June 19, 2016, 03:48:46 AM »

Quote from: webby1 on June 19, 2016, 03:05:32 AM

That I do believe was when certain religions came to be,, not throughout all of mans time on the planet,, and not all of mankind.

Before those certain religions, a large chunk of mankind believed that the Earth was round,, and now even those religions believe the Earth to be round,, so it has come full circle.

Mainstream science is a false religion in and of it's self that has put it's faith in mankind, instead of an Intelligent Designer. No, it has not come full circle yet! People are waking up to the deceptions and lies of this false religion, which is based on a false science, and getting back to what the ancient manuscripts have been saying all along, and doing real science and experiments that is based on truth.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #258 on:** June 19, 2016, 04:41:53 AM »

If the air (atmosphere) is rotating at or near the rotational speed of the earth, then airplanes wouldn't be able to fly against the direction of rotation. If the air (atmosphere) doesn't rotate with the surface of the earth, then we'll be blown over by 1,000 mph winds. Either way, the earth can't be rotating.

A Saudi Cleric, a religious leader, has said the sun rotates around the earth. At 2m35s in the video, they put up a quote by the Naked Scientists at Cambridge University in reply to the Saudi Cleric that says, "The atmosphere is moving with the surface of the earth below it because there's friction...you continue to move with...the surface of the earth...so there's no difference in flying with the rotation of the earth or against it". That's like saying there's no difference in running with the direction of a moving treadmill or against it, because you're moving with the surface of the treadmill's belt below you because there's friction. ROFLMAO!!!

Gravock

allcanadian · « **Reply #259 on:** June 19, 2016, 06:10:53 AM »

@GB

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Mainstream science is a false religion in and of it's self that has put it's faith in mankind, instead of an Intelligent Designer.

There you go little fella... doesn't that feel better getting that off your chest?. You may believe in a god and your believing somehow makes you not unlike a god relative to us non-believing filthy heathens.

I don't know why religious people try to hide their beliefs around normal folks and it always seems like their coming out of the closet or something. Maybe they are afraid they may lack credibility just because they believe a bearded man in a white dress created the universe in six days versus real facts. Why I knew a person who was pestering me about a lack of facts concerning free energy but apparently their belief in a bearded white dressed man-god wasn't a problem...WTF?.

You see in real life as in the here and now and stuff we can prove there should be some kind of equality. Not I happen to believe in imaginary things so I can just believe and do whatever the fuck I want without consequence because he/she/it is on my side. It just seems a little off-side, a little I'm a nut job and you have to accept it with a dash of schizo on the side.

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No, it has not come full circle yet! People are waking up to the deceptions and lies of this false religion, which is based on a false science, and getting back to what the ancient manuscripts have been saying all along, and doing real science and experiments that is based on truth.

Oh the ancient manuscripts, I don't believe I have seen those, were they on Fox news?... I don't have cable. I mean if the Earth is flat I should have wicked reception on the old rabbit ears but no... apparently I still get a shitty signal. Stupid rabbit ears, is there anything about the use of tin foil in the ancient manuscripts?.

AC

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #260 on:** June 19, 2016, 06:22:24 AM »

Quote from: PartzMan

Hmmmm!

What about the documented statement from Dr. Auguste Piccard in the August issue of Popular Science in 1931 after his successful balloon assent to approximately 10 miles above earth that "it seemed as a flat disc with up-turned edges" when asked how the earth appeared at that altitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1p2WQLQak

Jus sayin!

Apparently it is difficult for many to comprehend just how massive
Planet Earth is. Ten miles above its surface is minuscule compared
to the diameter of the Planet. The altitude at which the gentle
curvature of the massive Planet is discernible is much, much higher
than that.

What Piccard saw from his balloon is very common and easily
explained by the Earth's atmosphere coupled with the enormous
size of our Home Planet. The curvature is very, very gentle.

Dog-One · « **Reply #261 on:** June 19, 2016, 07:51:10 AM »

Now I shall reveal how SeaMonkey knows this...

Because he probably sailed completely around the globe (as have I) and
never fell off the edge.

"She again deployed to the Western Pacific and completed a second "Around-the-World" cruise in 1987."
-- Wikipedia

allcanadian · « **Reply #262 on:** June 19, 2016, 08:39:16 AM »

@GB

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If the air (atmosphere) is rotating at or near the rotational speed of the earth, then airplanes wouldn't be able to fly against the direction of rotation. If the air (atmosphere) doesn't rotate with the surface of the earth, then we'll be blown over by 1,000 mph winds. Either way, the earth can't be rotating.

One little problem, the stars move across the horizon each night do they not?. Now if all objects appear to move slower as they get farther away which we know then all the stars farther away must move progressively faster than the ones closer as they all move across the horizon at the same speed. So either all the stars in the heavens billions upon billions of miles away move faster as they get further away just for your personal entertainment or the Earth is rotating. Now which do you think is more likely?.

So how exactly would all the stars move across the horizon each night as we obviously know they do with a flat non-rotating Earth?.

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A Saudi Cleric, a religious leader, has said the sun rotates around the earth[/size]. At 2m35s in the video, they put up a quote by the Naked Scientists at Cambridge University in reply to the Saudi Cleric that says, "The atmosphere is moving with the surface of the earth below it because there's friction...you continue to move with...the surface of the earth...so there's no difference in flying with the rotation of the earth or against it". That's like saying there's no difference in running with the direction of a moving treadmill or against it, because you're moving with the surface of the treadmill's belt below you because there's friction. ROFLMAO!!![/size]

I think this raises an important question, should you believe a Saudi Cleric with a grade four education and an IQ probably smaller than their shoe size simply because they are a Saudi Cleric?. You know I read about a cleric who liked to smoke pot and bugger little boys and he was in fact a cleric... so should you smoke pot and bugger little boys every chance you get just because he did?. Well no that is silly, in fact one could say stupid, so why should we believe any person in a position of authority may have more intelligence than a person who has devoted their life to finding unbiased facts?.

Personally I love facts because if you ever put me in a room with the Saudi Cleric in that video I would tear him apart piece by piece until he was crying like a fucking two year old school girl... not a problem. You see I don't care who he thinks he is, where he lives, what he believes or what he owns. Logic and reason are my tools and they are the ultimate equalizer because we can have a net worth of $2, believe almost nothing and be nobody yet walk into a room full of people and literally destroy any fucking credibility another person may think they have. I think that's pretty darn cool and you should be happy we will probably never meet in person. Because if we ever did meet in person my friend I would hope you are intelligent enough to know the outcome... for real.

So yes have fun with it, play your silly games and mix it up a bit... whatever starts your tractor.

AC

gravityblock · « **Reply #263 on:** June 19, 2016, 08:58:49 AM »

Quote from: allcanadian on June 19, 2016, 08:39:16 AM

@GB

One little problem, the stars move across the horizon each night do they not?. Now if all objects appear to move slower as they get farther away which we know then all the stars farther away must move progressively faster than the ones closer as they all move across the horizon at the same speed. So either all the stars in the heavens billions upon billions of miles away move faster as they get further away just for your personal entertainment or the Earth is rotating. Now which do you think is more likely?.

So how exactly would all the stars move across the horizon each night as we obviously know they do with a flat non-rotating Earth?.

You obviously haven't read the thread. There's a rotating dome above the stationary round flat earth and the stars are embedded into the dome, thus all the stars move across the horizon each night.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #264 on:** June 19, 2016, 09:14:22 AM »

Quote from: allcanadian on June 19, 2016, 08:39:16 AM

I think this raises an important question, should you believe a Saudi Cleric with a grade four education and an IQ probably smaller than their shoe size simply because they are a Saudi Cleric?. You know I read about a cleric who liked to smoke pot and bugger little boys and he was in fact a cleric... so should you smoke pot and bugger little boys every chance you get just because he did?. Well no that is silly, in fact one could say stupid, so why should we believe any person in a position of authority may have more intelligence than a person who has devoted their life to finding unbiased facts?.

Personally I love facts because if you ever put me in a room with the Saudi Cleric in that video I would tear him apart piece by piece until he was crying like a fucking two year old school girl... not a problem. You see I don't care who he thinks he is, where he lives, what he believes or what he owns. Logic and reason are my tools and they are the ultimate equalizer because we can have a net worth of $2, believe almost nothing and be nobody yet walk into a room full of people and literally destroy any fucking credibility another person may think they have. I think that's pretty darn cool and you should be happy we will probably never meet in person. Because if we ever did meet in person my friend I would hope you are intelligent enough to know the outcome... for real.

So yes have fun with it, play your silly games and mix it up a bit... whatever starts your tractor.

AC

If logic and reason are your tools and is the ultimate equalizer, then why the need for physical threats as shown in the bold text above? ROFLMAO!!! I must be doing something right.

Intimidation and threats won't work with me! You ballers really stoop low because you can't defend the globe and can't successfully refute the flat earth, so you resort to a cave man type of mentality. ROFLMAO! What ever floats your boat king kong (AC)...

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #265 on:** June 19, 2016, 09:26:30 AM »

Quote from: allcanadian on June 19, 2016, 06:10:53 AM

@GB

There you go little fella... doesn't that feel better getting that off your chest?. You may believe in a god and your believing somehow makes you not unlike a god relative to us non-believing filthy heathens.

I don't know why religious people try to hide their beliefs around normal folks and it always seems like their coming out of the closet or something. Maybe they are afraid they may lack credibility just because they believe a bearded man in a white dress created the universe in six days versus real facts. Why I knew a person who was pestering me about a lack of facts concerning free energy but apparently their belief in a bearded white dressed man-god wasn't a problem...WTF?.

You see in real life as in the here and now and stuff we can prove there should be some kind of equality. Not I happen to believe in imaginary things so I can just believe and do whatever the fuck I want without consequence because he/she/it is on my side. It just seems a little off-side, a little I'm a nut job and you have to accept it with a dash of schizo on the side.

AC

You (king kong) and a few others here have been trying to turn this topic into a religious discussion, which is against the forum rules. It appears the intention is to get this thread locked or removed. Regardless, it is you ballers that have been indoctrinated into believing a bunch of fairy tales, deceptions, and lies by NASA, TPTB, fake/false science, the educational system, the news media, hollywood, the music industry, etc.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #266 on:** June 19, 2016, 10:13:39 AM »

Quote from: SeaMonkey on June 19, 2016, 06:22:24 AM

Apparently it is difficult for many to comprehend just how massive
Planet Earth is. Ten miles above its surface is minuscule compared
to the diameter of the Planet. The altitude at which the gentle
curvature of the massive Planet is discernible is much, much higher
than that.

What Piccard saw from his balloon is very common and easily
explained by the Earth's atmosphere coupled with the enormous
size of our Home Planet. The curvature is very, very gentle.

Webby, in reply #256, claims to have seen the curvature of the earth from planes, hot air balloons, from the top of mountains, and even out on the open ocean. You claim the altitude at which the gentle curvature of the earth is discernible is much, much higher than a hot air balloon, top of mountains, and out on the open ocean. Your claim and Webby's claims are contrary to each other! You ballers are debunking yourselves, ROFLMAO!!! You wouldn't need to reach an altitude which allows one to see the entire diameter of the planet in order to see a curvature of the earth as you falsely assert, LOL. The fact is, the curvature of the fake ball earth would be approximately 8 inches per mile squared, and this curvature would be very much discernible as seen over long distances, even out on the open ocean.

Gravock

gravityblock · « **Reply #267 on:** June 19, 2016, 10:23:31 AM »

Quote from: Dog-One on June 19, 2016, 07:51:10 AM

Now I shall reveal how SeaMonkey knows this...

Because he probably sailed completely around the globe (as have I) and
never fell off the edge.

"She again deployed to the Western Pacific and completed a second "Around-the-World" cruise in 1987."
-- Wikipedia

You can also sail completely around the flat earth and never fall off the edge. This is a no-brainer, lol.

Gravock

TinselKoala · « **Reply #268 on:** June 19, 2016, 10:34:45 AM »

Quote from: gravityblock on June 19, 2016, 08:58:49 AM

You obviously haven't read the thread. There's a rotating dome above the stationary round flat earth and the stars are embedded into the dome, thus all the stars move across the horizon each night.

Gravock

Only someone who has never actually observed the sky and how stars appear to move could possibly make that statement. I really (almost) feel sorry for you.

gravityblock · « **Reply #269 on:** June 19, 2016, 10:41:08 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 19, 2016, 10:34:45 AM

Only someone who has never actually observed the sky and how stars appear to move could possibly make that statement. I really (almost) feel sorry for you.

That's a CGI photo, LOL. Now, show me a real time lapse video of the star trails. I know they exist, for real...so why reference a fake CGI photo? I hope you realize the star trails is proof for a rotating dome over a stationary round flat earth! Good night...

Gravock

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