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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 216090 times)

verpies

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2016, 08:45:02 PM »
Below is an illustration of an experiment that would determine whether Earth is flat or curved beyond all reasonable doubt, without interference from effects such as  atmospheric ducting.

Description of the Experiment
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Two parallel pipes (one above the other and touching).
One pipe is half-filled with water and serves as a level for the other pipe, which rides on top of it (touching) and is "filled" with vacuum.  Periodic adjustable supports allow for exact leveling of the two pipe combo, on any non-hilly terrain.

The laser beam inside the vacuum pipe is compared to the water level in the water pipe below.


A 400m long pipe is enough. (or ¼ mile)


Formula for the difference in the length of the orange and violet ruler on a curved Earth:
Δh = ( r / cos( arc/r ) ) - r

where:
Δh: the drop-off of the curved water surface compared to a straight laser line.
r: mean radius of the Earth,
arc: the length of the arc (distance measured between two points along the water's/Earth's surface)



LEGEND
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- All vertical rulers are referenced to the water level in the half-filled pipe.
   - The orange rulers are of equal length.
   - The violet ruler measures the result of the experiment.  On curved Earth it will be longer than the orange rulers.

- The green triangles are the adjustable supports for the pipes.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »
Do any flat Earth proponents have an explanation of how the tides are produced on the flat Earth either artificially or naturally ?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2016, 10:56:11 PM »
Verpies, that's a great experiment to do because it is totally doable by a bunch of Flat-Earthers at their next pizza pie and pancake convention.  The material costs are not that great at all, and it would not be too hard to cordon off a 400 m stretch in a big hotel parking lot.  Talk about spoiling the party.

It reminds me of this little factoid that dates back to the 1930s:

The top of the Golden Gate Bridge is almost two inches wider at the top than the base because of the curvature of the Earth!

http://datagenetics.com/blog/june32012/index.html

Here we are 80 years later and 20+ years into the Information Age and some people have regressed all the way back to the 16th century.  The ironic thing is for sure there are many new converts to the "cause" because they accessed the "information" on their Buck Rogers magic data terminals.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2016, 11:40:02 PM »
Quote from: FarmHand
Do any flat Earth proponents have an explanation of how the tides are produced on the flat Earth either artificially or naturally ?
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Aye, very good question!  Or the eclipses too.

Falling victim to the Flat Earth PsyOp seems to
be the present fad.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2016, 11:49:09 PM »
I like the flat earth current theme happening for one reason and one reason only... It is getting people to "Question Everything" and come to their own truth instead of what has been programmed in to us.  Because all "theory" is not cast in stone, it changes all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVSe8JZ_eag

An open letter to Neal Degrasse Tyson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuBVCmC0ACM

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2016, 03:09:56 AM »
Aye, very good question!  Or the eclipses too.

Falling victim to the Flat Earth PsyOp seems to
be the present fad.

Can you please tell these deluded flat earth folks what part of a ship it is that you see first when it appears on the horizon heading toward you?  Can they guess why that is?  God help us.

Thank you,

Bill

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2016, 03:29:29 AM »
Well its a bit like the idiots that think man never went to the moon as they only watch the NASA home made one hahah But there is a very important question as to why you can see up to 200 miles from the flat ... Now why is that ?  Its something else and nothing to do with a dumb flat earth or is it ? hahahahah Well someone has to prove it ! 

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #37 on: April 30, 2016, 04:36:43 PM »
Do any flat Earth proponents have an explanation of how the tides are produced on the flat Earth either artificially or naturally ?

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I already provided a possible explanation in reply #17, Coriolis effect proves flat earth.  Do you guys even look at the references posted?


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #38 on: April 30, 2016, 04:39:55 PM »
I like the flat earth current theme happening for one reason and one reason only... It is getting people to "Question Everything" and come to their own truth instead of what has been programmed in to us.  Because all "theory" is not cast in stone, it changes all the time.


Exactly!  People aren't doing any critical thinking for themselves.  They can't think for themselves and don't have a mind of their own.  They just accept in blind faith what they're being told by the authorities.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2016, 04:48:57 PM »
Can you please tell these deluded flat earth folks what part of a ship it is that you see first when it appears on the horizon heading toward you?  Can they guess why that is?  God help us.

Thank you,

Bill


....when you zoom in with a camera, you can see the entire ship and not just the mast of the ship.  This was posted earlier in the thread.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2016, 04:55:59 PM »
Let's believe for a moment that NASA and whoever else lies about a flat earth. Let's assume for a moment that earth is flat:

What can you do better than NASA and all other scientists who contribute to building space craft because you know that earth is flat? Can you do better physisc? Can you build better rockets?  Can you come up with a better cosmology?

What are the consequences for your daily life because earth is flat?


To believe in a flat earth must have advantages over beleiving in a spherical earth, otherwise it serves no purpose:

What are the advantages? How is life better for a flat earther? What can a flat earther do better? Can a flat earther calculate the orbits of the planets in a novel and preciser way?

Greetings, Conrad


The earth being flat would discredit the TPTB and they would lose all control over the people.  The people would be totally outraged and realize how they are a slave to this system of things.  A flat earth with a glass-like dome is proof of a creator.  A spherical earth where life happened by random chance in a vast universe is in a way a false religion designed to deceive the entire world and to turn mankind away from their creator.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2016, 05:18:02 PM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2016, 05:21:04 PM »

....when you zoom in with a camera, you can see the entire ship and not just the mast of the ship.  This was posted earlier in the thread.


Gravock


Totally not true!  I have done this with a 400X zoom camera and, you still see the top part of the ship, or other object, as it approaches. Same with a sunrise or sunset.  Do you even try these things out for yourself or just believe them because you read it on the internet somewhere?


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2016, 05:23:34 PM »
Earth's atmosphere is a great convex lens having many density gradients.
It is wrong to assume that light rays travel straight through it without refraction - especially across great distances.

Because of this, the photos of e.g: distant islands, that should be obscured by the horizon cannot be taken at their face value.  Basically you cannot trust your eyes with any distant observations.
Did you read the article on atmospheric ducting?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2016, 05:39:49 PM »

Totally not true!  I have done this with a 400X zoom camera and, you still see the top part of the ship, or other object, as it approaches. Same with a sunrise or sunset.  Do you even try these things out for yourself or just believe them because you read it on the internet somewhere?


Bill

380 feet of missing curvature (image below).  Water finds it's own level, so in a spherical earth model, the water would need to bend to the curvature of the earth in order for the mast to appear before the hull as the ship approaches.  In order for you to be correct, you will need to prove that water doesn't find it's own level!

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