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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 72072 times)

Offline gravityblock

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2016, 03:29:03 AM »
What about the Foucault pendulums ?

There are many videos of the midnight arctic sun, so I'm sure that they are not fakes and none of them agree with the globe model.  Here's an excellent video on the midnight sun that can be used as a visual aid if you have a hard time visualizing this.

If the earth were a globe rotating on a tilted axis as we have been taught, then from inside of the arctic circle near the outer edge where the sun is visible 24 hours a day in the summer time we should see the suns path as a clockwise rotating oval, not the up and down that is observed.

The sun supposedly travels east to west across the sky because of the direction of the earth’s rotation. At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.

So what we should see if the earth were a globe is the sun traveling from east to west then slowing and lowering and eventually changing direction to form an oval. This is not what we see.  So the globe is debunked.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2016, 03:34:48 AM »
If the earth were a globe aprox. 25,000 miles in circumference, a plane traveling at 300 mph in a straight forward east west trajectory at the equator would be gaining altitude at a rate of 8” x 300m x 300m = 6000 ft. an hour = 1.14 miles an hour = 100 ft. a minute = 1.67 ft. per second.

This rate would increase exponentially the further north or south you get away from the equator due to the smaller circumference of the globe earth near the poles when traveling in a strictly east to west direction.  So unless pilots are constantly adjusting for curvature and pointing the nose slightly downward in order to compensate (which they aren’t because the earth is flat) they would be constantly gaining altitude.

If we were on a spinning globe then people in north America should be being pulled slightly southward (northward in Australia) by the centrifugal force which would be pulling us outward at a 90 degree angle from the axis of rotation which from our perspective would be slightly south. We would always be a little off balance. 

This force should be easily detected and measured if it existed but it isn’t and it hasn’t because it doesn’t exist.

Lunar eclipses sometimes happen when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky, this proves that it is not the earth’s shadow causing the eclipses.

If we were on a spinning ball orbiting the sun that is orbiting the galactic center that is traveling through space at high speed, (which is not a uniform motion) we would be constantly changing direction, speeding up and slowing down and it would be noticeable.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2016, 03:52:17 AM »
Gravock,

Your analysis of aviation was "a try" but not a very
convincing one.  You really should take up the art
of flying.  Even over-fly Antarctica for a first hand
look.  Or do Flat-Earthers not engage in such activities
which might pose hazard to their "beliefs?"

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #78 on: May 01, 2016, 04:54:53 AM »
Its a hard fact but a true one ! All the videos I have been viewing as re rockets space planes ect ect ect all offer round and straight line horizons and some even have a concave view of the horizon .

The point is we want a round world and we plan for that and build to that and even fly around the world but we are in the 3rd dimensional plane of vision and that can not by its self conclude the world to be round when a 2 dimensional view exists ...


Its impossible to say that a two dimensional reality is not real when  the building bock for the 3rd dimensional depends on it !


Observations of optical planes are obviously real so you truly need to look at the earth with out a space suite hahahahahahahha wow I dont think they have done that one hahahahahahah may be dog one might be the forst one to give it a go hahahah


Its is flat and it is round ! One anti mater one mater ! FACT NOT FICTION !





     


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2016, 05:00:37 AM »
There are many videos of the midnight arctic sun, so I'm sure that they are not fakes and none of them agree with the globe model.  Here's an excellent video on the midnight sun that can be used as a visual aid if you have a hard time visualizing this.

If the earth were a globe rotating on a tilted axis as we have been taught, then from inside of the arctic circle near the outer edge where the sun is visible 24 hours a day in the summer time we should see the suns path as a clockwise rotating oval, not the up and down that is observed.

The sun supposedly travels east to west across the sky because of the direction of the earth’s rotation. At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.

So what we should see if the earth were a globe is the sun traveling from east to west then slowing and lowering and eventually changing direction to form an oval. This is not what we see.  So the globe is debunked.

Gravock

If the earth were a globe aprox. 25,000 miles in circumference, a plane traveling at 300 mph in a straight forward east west trajectory at the equator would be gaining altitude at a rate of 8” x 300m x 300m = 6000 ft. an hour = 1.14 miles an hour = 100 ft. a minute = 1.67 ft. per second.

This rate would increase exponentially the further north or south you get away from the equator due to the smaller circumference of the globe earth near the poles when traveling in a strictly east to west direction.  So unless pilots are constantly adjusting for curvature and pointing the nose slightly downward in order to compensate (which they aren’t because the earth is flat) they would be constantly gaining altitude.

If we were on a spinning globe then people in north America should be being pulled slightly southward (northward in Australia) by the centrifugal force which would be pulling us outward at a 90 degree angle from the axis of rotation which from our perspective would be slightly south. We would always be a little off balance. 

This force should be easily detected and measured if it existed but it isn’t and it hasn’t because it doesn’t exist.

Lunar eclipses sometimes happen when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky, this proves that it is not the earth’s shadow causing the eclipses.

If we were on a spinning ball orbiting the sun that is orbiting the galactic center that is traveling through space at high speed, (which is not a uniform motion) we would be constantly changing direction, speeding up and slowing down and it would be noticeable.

Gravock

It's kind of fun to toy with people like you, just to see what erroneous bullshit you come up with next, and watch how you ignore things like the Foucault pendulum experiment, or the Coriolis effect, or the many NASA space missions and those of other countries, the photographs from space, the thousands of computerized telescopes that depend on the _reality_ of the globular planet to locate their target planets and stars, the thousands of satellites launched into orbit by China, Russia, France, Great Britain, Japan, USA, even North Korea .... Watching you claim that all that absolutely consistent data is simply faked is hilarious. Come on, give us some more "proofs" of your silly claims, show us how absolutely ignorant you actually are. Make some more huge bloopers like you've made in the posts I've quoted-- they are truly hilarious.







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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #79 on: May 01, 2016, 05:00:37 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #80 on: May 01, 2016, 05:04:22 AM »
Its a hard fact but a true one ! All the videos I have been viewing as re rockets space planes ect ect ect all offer round and straight line horizons and some even have a concave view of the horizon .

The point is we want a round world and we plan for that and build to that and even fly around the world but we are in the 3rd dimensional plane of vision and that can not by its self conclude the world to be round when a 2 dimensional view exists ...


Its impossible to say that a two dimensional reality is not real when  the building bock for the 3rd dimensional depends on it !


Observations of optical planes are obviously real so you truly need to look at the earth with out a space suite hahahahahahahha wow I dont think they have done that one hahahahahahah may be dog one might be the forst one to give it a go hahahah


Its is flat and it is round ! One anti mater one mater ! FACT NOT FICTION !





     

Do you really think you are fooling anyone with your "new" identity?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2016, 05:21:31 AM »
It's kind of fun to toy with people like you, just to see what erroneous bullshit you come up with next, and watch how you ignore things like the Foucault pendulum experiment, or the Coriolis effect, or the many NASA space missions and those of other countries, the photographs from space, the thousands of computerized telescopes that depend on the _reality_ of the globular planet to locate their target planets and stars, the thousands of satellites launched into orbit by China, Russia, France, Great Britain, Japan, USA, even North Korea .... Watching you claim that all that absolutely consistent data is simply faked is hilarious. Come on, give us some more "proofs" of your silly claims, show us how absolutely ignorant you actually are. Make some more huge bloopers like you've made in the posts I've quoted-- they are truly hilarious.

If the Coriolis effect is real, then it would be impossible for a plane to land on a moving runway. The Flat Earth Documentary - 2016 covers everything you mentioned above, including a simulation of what would happen to a plane trying to land on a moving runway due to the so-called Coriolis effect.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2016, 05:21:31 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #82 on: May 01, 2016, 05:24:18 AM »
Do you really think you are fooling anyone with your "new" identity?

Ask Stephan if the IP addresses match!  They won't match, because I haven't assumed a new identity.  I only have one username on this forum.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #83 on: May 01, 2016, 07:44:21 AM »
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...what would happen to a plane trying to land on a moving runway...

Navy Aviation Pilots do this routinely.  Very short moving runways
at that.

Even without moving runways landing a commerical jetliner can
be very challenging:

Spectacular cross-wind approaches and landings

More spectacular cross-wind landings

Fortunately, military and airline pilots are versatile and talented.

Navy Air Ops during rough seas.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #84 on: May 01, 2016, 08:39:45 AM »
Navy Aviation Pilots do this routinely.  Very short moving runways
at that.

Even without moving runways landing a commerical jetliner can
be very challenging:

Spectacular cross-wind approaches and landings

More spectacular cross-wind landings

Fortunately, military and airline pilots are versatile and talented.

Navy Air Ops during rough seas.

Obviously you didn't watch the video.  A runway that is moving parallel with the plane is not the same as a runway that is moving and changing it's direction relative to the plane, due to the Coriolis effect, as the plane approaches it.  Big difference!  In other words, the Coriolis effect as you know it is fictitious and not real, thus the successful landings, thus a flat earth.  Thank You for proving the flat earth!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2016, 10:50:31 AM »
If the Coriolis effect is real, then it would be impossible for a plane to land on a moving runway. The Flat Earth Documentary - 2016 covers everything you mentioned above, including a simulation of what would happen to a plane trying to land on a moving runway due to the so-called Coriolis effect.

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Obviously you didn't watch the video.  A runway that is moving parallel with the plane is not the same as a runway that is moving and changing it's direction relative to the plane, due to the Coriolis effect, as the plane approaches it.  Big difference!  In other words, the Coriolis effect as you know it is fictitious and not real, thus the successful landings, thus a flat earth.  Thank You for proving the flat earth!


Thank you for proving once again how idiotic your claims are !

Oh... I forgot to give you your ROFL !!! If you knew anything about aviation you'd know how silly your claims are.

Of course airplanes are affected by the Coriolis effect, but the magnitude of this effect is so small on the scale of aircraft landing/takeoff operations that it is virtually indetectable. Even the slightest crosswind component affects the aircraft more than the Coriolis effect. Try looking up artillery aiming, if you want an example where the CE affects practical outcomes and must be corrected for.

Now look up the Foucault pendulum experiment and explain why the big ones in the Deutches Museum in Munchen, in Paris, at the University of Chicago and elsewhere work as they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBvh8XgyvA


Oh... I forgot... they are all fakes, aren't they.

Come on, tell us another one!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2016, 10:52:54 AM »
Ask Stephan if the IP addresses match!  They won't match, because I haven't assumed a new identity.  I only have one username on this forum.

Gravock

That post wasn't addressed to you. Not everything is about you, actually.
DR.WHO = ATOMMIX  , very obviously.

And it doesn't matter one bit whether the IP addresses are different or not. Can you spell "proxies" ? Anonymizers?


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2016, 11:34:38 AM »
I don't know what to say about this video below except that it is quite humorous and probably not far from the truth.
I think this video probably expresses what many people think. For best effect please watch it in it's entirety.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g_f8LDSLlA

Another video with some interesting info from about 2:30 in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY5VwHrLciE

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2016, 11:56:00 AM »


Thank you for proving once again how idiotic your claims are !

Oh... I forgot to give you your ROFL !!! If you knew anything about aviation you'd know how silly your claims are.

Of course airplanes are affected by the Coriolis effect, but the magnitude of this effect is so small on the scale of aircraft landing/takeoff operations that it is virtually indetectable. Even the slightest crosswind component affects the aircraft more than the Coriolis effect. Try looking up artillery aiming, if you want an example where the CE affects practical outcomes and must be corrected for.

Now look up the Foucault pendulum experiment and explain why the big ones in the Deutches Museum in Munchen, in Paris, at the University of Chicago and elsewhere work as they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBvh8XgyvA


Oh... I forgot... they are all fakes, aren't they.

Come on, tell us another one!

The Foucalt's Pendulum Debunked!  The Foucalt's pendulum makes more sense on a flat earth than a rotating earth.  Below is a quote by don Quixote on the youtube comments:

"Did you read Umberto Eco: Foucault pendulum? Even he appears to have problems with this: for one, the pendulum is not suspended freely, only as free as high precision engineering allows for; secondly, as you noted, those pendulums are augmented with magnetic, or electro-magnetic devices to maintain their oscillations. Those issues can obviously affect the behaviour we see, therefore falsify/corrupt data. Bim found out that when they put a Foucault pendulum in Antarctica they found it rotating against the expected direction and had to tweak it twice (few days of solid work) to make it match the predicated model.   I believe they mess with the balance actually. Indeed the star trail! I am tempted to look at the electro-magnetic field as per the toroid model controlling the firmament. or celestial bodies above, but other less known phenomena can be at work here for sure. Coriolis, as a certain predilection in the clouds movement, is not otherwise present in the ballistic trajectory as far as my experience attests - I have a vid on my channel called the rocket man.  I have subbed to you for a while now, love your graphics and obvious knowledge and intelligence and you are a fantastic communicator. Well done!"

A quote by, Dubno Val:

"yes from what i understand, the actual experiment is likely promoted and tailored to show what they need it to show. my point is, even that being said, the explanation they give us disproves itself. whether the experiment actually works or not, it doe NOT prove a globe and works better on the flat earth model."

Gravock


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2016, 12:13:14 PM »
The well known Michelson-Morley experiment clearly shows no rotation of the earth!  I posted this earlier and there has been no attempts to refute it.

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