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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 36070 times)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #60 on: April 30, 2016, 09:17:50 PM »
I used to fly airplanes. (Small private aircraft) I have flown in airplanes high enough (commercial airliner) to see the curvature of the earth.  It did not matter if I were going east/west or north/south, you could just make out the slight curvature at the horizon if you looked carefully.  So, do you believe what you read on the internet or your lying eyes?

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You looked out of the aircraft through a thick window, which skewed your perspective on the true reality of things.  And you talk about being ignorant of general science principals, lol.  Here's an amateur rocket launch, which uses a non-fish-eye lens, and reaches an amazing height of 120,000 feet showing the earth is flat as a pancake!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2016, 09:38:44 PM »
There's a 26ft. curve over a distance of 39 miles and you're claiming the CN tower is approximately 603ft below sea level.  The most it can be below sea level is 26ft. in a spherical model of the earth.  Try again!

Gravock

Look at the diagram in post #54 and look at the pictures in post #52.  I have seen the image of the Toronto skyline sunken below the horizon myself.  So either the Earth is curved or the sky man-thing likes to play jokes on you and makes temporary giant sinkholes for his amusement.

You are clearly on the side of the lunatic fringe when it comes to this subject.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2016, 10:03:37 PM »
Former NAZI, Wernher von Braun, head of rocket program has Psalm 19:1 on his tombstone.  The firmament is in reference to the dome.

Psalm 19:1King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2016, 10:14:02 PM »
Below is an illustration of an experiment that would determine whether Earth is flat or curved beyond all reasonable doubt, without interference from effects such as  atmospheric ducting.

Description of the Experiment
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Two parallel pipes (one above the other and touching).
One pipe is half-filled with water and serves as a level for the other pipe, which rides on top of it (touching) and is "filled" with vacuum.  Periodic adjustable supports allow for exact leveling of the two pipe combo, on any non-hilly terrain.

The laser beam inside the vacuum pipe is compared to the water level in the water pipe below.


A 400m long pipe is enough. (or ¼ mile)


Formula for the difference in the length of the orange and violet ruler on a curved Earth:
Δh = ( r / cos( arc/r ) ) - r

where:
Δh: the drop-off of the curved water surface compared to a straight laser line.
r: mean radius of the Earth,
arc: the length of the arc (distance measured between two points along the water's/Earth's surface)



LEGEND
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- All vertical rulers are referenced to the water level in the half-filled pipe.
   - The orange rulers are of equal length.
   - The violet ruler measures the result of the experiment.  On curved Earth it will be longer than the orange rulers.

- The green triangles are the adjustable supports for the pipes.

Yes, and there's a well known experiment that has already been done which proves the earth isn't rotating, which is the Michelson–Morley experiment!  Scientist's admit the Earth is the center of the universe at 14 minutes 12 seconds to around 20 min in the video.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2016, 10:15:39 PM »
Von Braun was not a NAZI.  You need to research stuff before posting.  This has been looked into many, many years ago and proven false...yet, since you didn't know about that, you post this crap. You need to read the FBI and CIA files on him and learn something.  Also, research Operation Paperclip.

Making this claim is the same as claiming that those poor bastards performing slave labor in the NAZI underground munitions works were also NAZI sympathizers as well.

Did he do what the NAZI guys told him to do?  Yes, and so would you.  I have like 5 books on him here on my shelves and none of them support your nasty claim for this intelligent man.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2016, 10:15:39 PM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2016, 10:29:40 PM »
Von Braun was not a NAZI.  You need to research stuff before posting.  This has been looked into many, many years ago and proven false...yet, since you didn't know about that, you post this crap. You need to read the FBI and CIA files on him and learn something.  Also, research Operation Paperclip.

Making this claim is the same as claiming that those poor bastards performing slave labor in the NAZI underground munitions works were also NAZI sympathizers as well.

Did he do what the NAZI guys told him to do?  Yes, and so would you.  I have like 5 books on him here on my shelves and none of them support your nasty claim for this intelligent man.

Bill

All order followers are bad people!  Who is more at fault, the order giver or the order follower?  The order giver says, "I didn't blow them kids up", and the order follower says, "I'm not responsible, I was only following orders".  The order follower is more at fault, because it is he/she who manifested it into physical reality and not the order giver. 

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2016, 10:49:47 PM »
You glossed over a big difference there.

"You need to do as I say or you will be shot!" 

Those poor bastards in the underground munition works were not following orders as much as they were trying to stay alive.  You can read all about this as much research has been done and all of it was published.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2016, 11:18:44 PM »
You glossed over a big difference there.

"You need to do as I say or you will be shot!" 

Those poor bastards in the underground munition works were not following orders as much as they were trying to stay alive.  You can read all about this as much research has been done and all of it was published.

Bill

No, I did not gloss over a big difference.  I would not do anything that is against my own consciousness and beliefs.  You do not compromise your core values and beliefs for another person by causing harm to another, period.  You're not exercising your own consciousness by blindly following orders.  We are individuals!  We are not borg or part of a collective mind.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2016, 12:11:21 AM »
No, I did not gloss over a big difference.  I would not do anything that is against my own consciousness and beliefs.  You do not compromise your core values and beliefs for another person by causing harm to another, period.  You're not exercising your own consciousness by blindly following orders.  We are individuals!  We are not borg or part of a collective mind.

Gravock

Yes you did gloss over it.  It is very easy to type that you would never compromise your principles but, let's just think about how you might react with a Lugar in your ear....or a family member of yours...you might just build that rocket motor after all.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2016, 12:27:34 AM »
Yes you did gloss over it.  It is very easy to type that you would never compromise your principles but, let's just think about how you might react with a Lugar in your ear....or a family member of yours...you might just build that rocket motor after all.

Bill

Nope, you're wrong!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2016, 12:42:12 AM »
Nope, you're wrong!

Gravock

Whatever Dude.  I am sure everyone here reading this believes you.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2016, 01:09:48 AM »
Are you sure its 8 inch every mile ?
No, the obscuration height on a spherical Earth is 8 inches at 1 mile, not  8 inches per mile.
For example, the obscuration height at 2 miles is 32 inches (not 16 inches).
...and at 10 miles the obscuration height is 800 inches (not 80 inches).


The full formula for the the obscuration height (h) on a spherical Earth is:
h = ( r / cos( arc/r ) ) - r

where:
r: mean radius of the Earth (6371km or 3959miles),
arc: the length of the arc (distance measured between two points along the water's/Earth's surface)



P.S.
All of that photographic evidence of the objects beyond the horizon cannot be trusted because the atmosphere distorts and ducts light rays.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2016, 01:22:08 AM »
Yes, I think we all agree that water finds it's own level, thus you need to prove that the water bends to the surface of the earth...
Yes, the water follows the mean surface of the Earth.  Water must curve on a spherical Earth.

380 feet of missing curvature (image below). 
How do you propose to rigorously detect this curvature (or lack of it) without vacuum ?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2016, 01:26:51 AM »
Yes, and there's a well known experiment that has already been done which proves the earth isn't rotating, which is the Michelson–Morley experiment!
What about the Foucault pendulums ?


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2016, 03:18:22 AM »
Here's an amateur rocket launch, which uses a non-fish-eye lens, and reaches an amazing height of 120,000 feet showing the earth is flat as a pancake!
Actually, the down-looking GoPro camera on that rocket had a fish-eye lens.  The sideways looking FlipHD camera - did not.
Full unedited videos from both cameras are here.

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