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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 69311 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #570 on: August 23, 2017, 06:34:33 AM »
                                        Does yours disputation making yourselves satisfy,TinselKoala and gravitybloc  ?

                                           One over 13000 and the other more than 3000 thread inputs:
                                           proven intelligence
                                           proven patience
                                           proven pros and cons compare
                                       
                                           Cybernetic,Teleology: Theology and science together ,without physical and psychological frontier

                                           All in One

                                           TinselKoala : do you know or do you believe ?  do you know to believe ?
                                            gravitybloc : do you know or do you believe ?  do you know to believe ?

       
                                          where does your "common sense" leave the same way ?


                                          Sincerely
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #571 on: August 23, 2017, 07:52:08 AM »
If I can chime then leave.

Flat Earthers had not looked at gravity. Gravity is impossible on a Flat Earth.

By the same token Globers have never shown one picture of Earth. That is inexcusable if Earth is a globe to not have a billion pictures of our great and only home. So there is no excuse and we all have to agree to that.

On the other side, plane travel does not concord with a globe, long distance visibility does not, artillery does not.

So both sides are wrong, or both sides are right by the following I made to save words.

Good luck.

wattsup

Thanks for sharing. Original thinking based along empirical evidence, I like it. 

I must say, do we really know what is beyond the dome?  More ice, water, and land?  Water above the dome?  I would say the evidence leads to a yes!  However, the earth with the dome is stationary, non-rotating, and flat from edge to edge based on empirical evidence.  I won't comment on the text found in wattsup's illustration.  Other than that, good post...

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #572 on: August 24, 2017, 02:53:06 AM »

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #573 on: August 24, 2017, 03:39:57 AM »

No, I do not depend on "indoctrination" because I can prove for myself that the Earth and the other planets are rough spheres of a certain size... as did even the ancient Greeks did long ago.


If you can only prove it to YOURSELF, then please keep it to yourself!  There are no isolated globular bodies in the universe as you have falsely asserted (see reference link and image below)!  All I see from you are false assertions with nothing to back up your false claims.

Worlds Beyond The Poles:  Physical Continuity Of The Universe, by F. Amadeo Giannini

Chapter One Audio Book - Extrasensory Perception:  A one-minute express to the universe about us.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #574 on: August 24, 2017, 04:07:25 AM »
If you can only prove it to YOURSELF, then please keep it to yourself!  There are no isolated globular bodies in the universe as you have falsely asserted (see reference links below)!  All I see from you are false assertions with nothing to back up your false claims.

Worlds Beyond The Poles:  Physical Continuity Of The Universe, by F. Amadeo Giannini

Chapter One Audio Book - Extrasensory Perception:  A one-minute express to the universe about us.

Gravock

The model presented to us by Wattsup is in contradiction to the empirical evidence that there are no isolated globular bodies in the universe.  Gravity isn't necessary on a flat earth.  Gravity is only necessary in order to make the fake heliocentric model work.  The Wattsup's model is not completely correct, but it's a step in the right direction.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #574 on: August 24, 2017, 04:07:25 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #575 on: August 24, 2017, 04:54:05 AM »

Piccard saw what he was able to see - nothing more, nothing less, all of which came to him through the curved lenses of his own eyes.


Well said!  The globular and isolated bodies are illusory and are produced from the curvature that is developed by all lenses!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #576 on: August 24, 2017, 07:40:03 AM »
At a close distance all three mirrors reflect their true shapes and sizes (first image).  As the focal length is extended, the reflections of all three mirrors of different shapes and sizes appear to be the same size and globular/round in nature (second image).  TK is clearly delusional to think he is seeing rough spheres of a certain size through his telescope!

Reference:  DIY Safe Sun Imaging Explained Telescope

As a side note:  Schlieren photography is totally awesome and could be beneficial to see what is happening in some of your experiments!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #579 on: August 26, 2017, 06:12:39 AM »

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #580 on: August 26, 2017, 07:56:25 AM »
The Flat Earth And The Sexagesimal Delusion  <------ This video is for TinselKoala and the other ball/baal worshipers.
 As we can clearly see, TK and his minions are pushing their false religion on this forum under the guise of science.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #581 on: August 26, 2017, 11:20:36 AM »
                       www.coloradd.net 
 
         https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloradd

 http://www.astroshop.de/fernglas-optus-10x25/p,45901

         screw up one/the two look-in parts and see what
                            U find :
             Ioann Wolfgang v. Goethe
https://www.google.pt/search?q=goethe+prisma&oq=goethe+prisma&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0i22i30k1l3.7640.18002.0.23036.23.18.0.0.0.0.335.2401.0j13j0j1.14.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..9.13.2056...0j0i67k1.hBGehRt7mEc

                        Prismenglas
       unvisible(for whom ?) radiation to visible spectrum

                            Punkt
                            Strahl
                            Strecke
                            Koerper
                            Volumen
                            Sphere
                            "(Frequenz-)EAther"
                           
                           


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #582 on: August 26, 2017, 01:41:39 PM »
bla bla bla ....

Gravock

Cognitive_closure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_closure_(philosophy)

https://books.google.fr/books?id=7e0atc5VL2YC&pg=PA9&lpg=PA9&dq=cognitive+closure+and+flat+earth&source=bl&ots=ALwc1fxwlS&sig=ajm3QbPcAAySUpnST9g03fqoBAg&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiYh7yE5vTVAhXCalAKHdv7DawQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=cognitive%20closure%20and%20flat%20earth&f=false


http://mediusinternational.com/main/index.php/2017/02/25/the-impenetrable-mystery-of-closed-circuit-thinking/

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If you’re in a discussion involving Closed-Circuit Thinking, you’re better off changing the subject rather than engaging further. Any attempt to change another’s belief, even with overwhelming empirical evidence, is only likely to strengthen it. It’s a waste of time and counterproductive. When dealing with a colleague or subordinate, it’s more effective to modify the work context or their responsibilities, than to try to change their behaviour through discussion, performance appraisal, counselling, etc. These are likely to be perceived as adversarial and further proof that their belief must be true (see Rule #3 at the beginning of this article).

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It’s tempting to believe that people using Closed-Circuit Thinking may not be too bright. This would be a mistake. Research going as far back as the early 1960’s consistently shows that there isn’t any correlation between intelligence and Closed-Circuit Thinking [4]. Some very smart and successful people hold very illogical and indefensible beliefs.  There is still after all, a Flat Earth Society[5] of some 500 members in the West, which supports its views with “scientific” evidence.
 
Closed-Circuit Thinking is a result of the interplay between perceived personal vulnerability and how individuals understand and accept truth.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #583 on: August 26, 2017, 01:58:42 PM »

https://schoolofthinking.org/2011/10/cognitive-dissonance-from-flat-earth-to-round-earth/

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 Cognitive Dissonance: From Flat Earth to Round Earth  Posted on October 20, 2011  by   Michael      In cognitive science, the term cognitive dissonance is often  used. Cognitive dissonance is interesting because it refers to what  happens in your brain when information is presented to it which doesn’t  seem to fit.
For example, just suppose the current state of information in your brain (the balance of memes) was such that you believed the earth was flat. Just suppose your brain was a happy co-operative of flat earth memes filling your brain and dominating your outlook.
This, of course, seems naive to us now but not long ago most smart people saw things this way. Now, suppose someone called Fred comes along and says, “No, the earth is round!” and tries to explain to you why you  should change your view. You would begin to experience cognitive dissonance.
If, though you thought the earth was flat, you were not superstitiously committed to that view you might only experience a mild case of cognitive dissonance. Then, as you followed the evidence Fred presented, you might find your view evolving from flat earth to round earth.
If, on the other hand, you not only believed the earth was flat but you also PTV-believed your flat earth view was absolutely right, then you might have a dose of strong cognitive dissonance, so strong that it might be easier to burn Fred at the stake than to change your view from flat earth to round earth.




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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #584 on: August 26, 2017, 02:09:51 PM »
                                                       "no/all dimensional               .            all/no dimensional"
                                                                 
                                                                                   e.-pi.-log.

                                                                      center                      sphere
                                                                      sphere                     center

                                                                                     "point"

                                                                                       XYZ
                                                                                        O
                                                      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christusmonogramm
                                                      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras
 
                                     seeing and seeding for dreams 2-dimensional and feeling 3/4/...... dimensional

                                       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPolnuRilDY


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