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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 68981 times)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #495 on: August 04, 2017, 09:12:42 PM »
Phones use an accelerometer to run the level app. Because an accelerometer is a weight balanced on springs, it will always point down towards the earth when using the level. I don't understand how this can be taken as evidence for a flat earth. It can't be really. Won't a plumb line always point straight down? Doesn't a dropped object always fall down? It's the same thing. I'm getting confused by the ludicrosity of this experiment.
I don't think I need to tell you that calibrating a level on a level floor will yield the same result on any level floor, but I will. Calibrating a level on a level floor will yield the same result on any level floor, anywhere and everywhere. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

It doesn't appear anyone else is challenging this experiment, other than you!  Are you sure you didn't miss something? 
How can the accelermeter not effect the bubble level app of the smart phone during the experiment?  It's so simple...

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #496 on: August 05, 2017, 03:15:02 AM »


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #497 on: August 05, 2017, 05:57:43 AM »
ball worship = baal worship

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #498 on: August 05, 2017, 10:06:48 AM »
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All smoke n mirrors


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #499 on: August 05, 2017, 12:15:57 PM »
Étienne Klein

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tienne_Klein

profitis ! you can listen what he is saying about flatearthers :


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Hello, I would like to share a moment with Étienne Klein Director of Research at the CEA,
where flat earth is evoked.
I would like to share with you the beginning of the discussion that leads to this idea.
 To judge, be a good observer: words, gestures. Good viewing.
Excerpt from this conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlP8bom5F9k


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #499 on: August 05, 2017, 12:15:57 PM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #500 on: August 05, 2017, 06:30:09 PM »
You're grasping at straws again gravock. It's no secret that they use the screen in the ISS. https://youtu.be/YCO_4UFINBQ

I don't know what you're referring to about the accelerometer. How about you just tell me how you think it should work on a flat earth and a globe.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #501 on: August 05, 2017, 07:14:43 PM »
You're grasping at straws again gravock. It's no secret that they use the screen in the ISS. https://youtu.be/YCO_4UFINBQ


Unbelievable.  They're showing you right before your own eyes, and you still believe in this trickster. LOL

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #501 on: August 05, 2017, 07:14:43 PM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #502 on: August 05, 2017, 07:28:55 PM »

I don't know what you're referring to about the accelerometer.

It is you who brought up the accelerometer and not me.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #503 on: August 05, 2017, 08:01:21 PM »
Phones use an accelerometer to run the level app. Because an accelerometer is a weight balanced on springs, it will always point down towards the earth when using the level. I don't understand how this can be taken as evidence for a flat earth. It can't be really. Won't a plumb line always point straight down? Doesn't a dropped object always fall down? It's the same thing. I'm getting confused by the ludicrosity of this experiment.
I don't think I need to tell you that calibrating a level on a level floor will yield the same result on any level floor, but I will. Calibrating a level on a level floor will yield the same result on any level floor, anywhere and everywhere. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Yes, a plumb line will always point straight down, but not the accelermeter as you have falsely asserted.  The accelermeter can point in any direction and show level (you should watch the pre-flight experiments).  If you think otherwise, then you are clearly delusional and don't understand the reason for setting a reference point for level during calibration.  The phone was off during the entire experiment, thus gravity and the accelerometer had no effect on the bubble level app during the experiment.  Ireland being on the other side of the so-called globe could never show level in regards to the same reference point for level obtained during calibration in the u.s.a.  However, Ireland does show level using the same reference point obtained in the u.s.a, thus the earth is flat!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #504 on: August 05, 2017, 09:03:52 PM »
I haven't falsely asserted anything, I know an accelerometer can show a force in any direction. And when an accelerometer is motionless the dominant force acting on it is gravity. That's why the guy didn't put it on his head and do the Macarena when he calibrated it. He wanted it to be calibrated to the level of the floor, as by gravity.

The calibration has nothing to do with location, it only allows you, the user, to set it to show level at what you believe is level. A normal bubble level doesn't need to be calibrated, and you can see what it shows in the video, two level floors. So congrats to the engineers and contractors that built the airports.

Likewise it doesn't matter if the phone was turned off or on, the calibration would remain the same. I don't know where you're coming up with these arguments but you're misunderstanding everything. How do you not see what you're saying as being wrong? I just don't understand.  :-\

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #505 on: August 05, 2017, 09:23:36 PM »
I haven't falsely asserted anything, I know an accelerometer can show a force in any direction. And when an accelerometer is motionless the dominant force acting on it is gravity. That's why the guy didn't put it on his head and do the Macarena when he calibrated it. He wanted it to be calibrated to the level of the floor, as by gravity.

The calibration has nothing to do with location, it only allows you, the user, to set it to show level at what you believe is level. A normal bubble level doesn't need to be calibrated, and you can see what it shows in the video, two level floors. So congrats to the engineers and contractors that built the airports.

Likewise it doesn't matter if the phone was turned off or on, the calibration would remain the same. I don't know where you're coming up with these arguments but you're misunderstanding everything. How do you not see what you're saying as being wrong? I just don't understand.  :-\

The accelerometer can only detect acceleration and not gravity itself.  The accelerometer resting on the floor during calibration isn't undergoing acceleration, thus the accelerometer isn't calibrated on a level floor by gravity as you have once again falsely asserted.  Gravity is nothing more than density and buoyancy.  Anything heavier than air will fall through it and anything lighter than air will rise.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #506 on: August 05, 2017, 09:59:50 PM »
antijon,

Let me ask you this question.  Do you think Ireland has the same reference point for level relative to a reference point for level in the u.s.a on a globe model?  I can easily provide an illustration showing how a person standing at one location on a globe doesn't have the same reference point for level, up, down, left, and right relative to a person who is on the other side of the fake globe.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #507 on: August 05, 2017, 10:29:09 PM »
antijon,

Let me ask you this question.  Do you think Ireland has the same reference point for level relative to a reference point for level in the u.s.a on a globe model?  I can easily provide an illustration showing how a person standing at one location on a globe doesn't have the same reference point for level, up, down, left, and right relative to a person who is on the other side of the fake globe.

Gravock

The author of confusion baal (ball) destroyed by it's own theory of relativity.  ROFLMAO!!!  On the flat earth, EVERYONE has the same reference point for what is level, up, down, etc., thus the theory of relativity is literally total B.S from baal (ball).

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #508 on: August 06, 2017, 08:51:03 AM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #509 on: August 06, 2017, 09:25:34 AM »
I haven't falsely asserted anything, I know an accelerometer can show a force in any direction. And when an accelerometer is motionless the dominant force acting on it is gravity. That's why the guy didn't put it on his head and do the Macarena when he calibrated it. He wanted it to be calibrated to the level of the floor, as by gravity.

The calibration has nothing to do with location, it only allows you, the user, to set it to show level at what you believe is level. A normal bubble level doesn't need to be calibrated, and you can see what it shows in the video, two level floors. So congrats to the engineers and contractors that built the airports.

Likewise it doesn't matter if the phone was turned off or on, the calibration would remain the same. I don't know where you're coming up with these arguments but you're misunderstanding everything. How do you not see what you're saying as being wrong? I just don't understand.  :-\


Flat Earth pseudoscience is a symptoms of anti-intellectualism
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In the 1990s and early 2000s, a lot of the online presence of Flat Earth societies on various websites and forums was probably based on satire. With the advent of YouTube and the growing conspiracy movements, more and more people have seriously claimed that the earth is flat. Before, many cranks were often socially isolated and rarely encountered thousands of other people who shared their viewpoints.

With the Internet, it has become possible to connect with people who share your own worldview and experience enormous reinforcement. It is also very easy to become ideologically isolated online with search engines silently adapting to your search behavior and showing you material that the search engine algorithm has predicted that you want to see. This is ultimately done to monetize the preferences of individuals, but has the disturbing side effect of reducing the amount of divergent information that a person will see. It is like a form of technological confirmation bias. On social media, you also get to decide who you follow and who to block, further strengthening ideological isolation. Technological and social filter bubbles skew their world.

Ultimately, the Flat Earth movement is a symptom of anti-intellectualism. It is an extreme distrust of modernity and science on the base of a conspiracy theory that does not even remotely make sense even by the low standards of conspiracy theories. For some reason, all the governments of 200+ countries of the world have decided to fool people into thinking that the Earth is really shaped like a sphere. On the Flat Earth model, Antarctica is at the ends of the flat disc, and protected by the military. Why all the governments of the world are conspiring together and why they are trying to hide the supposed fact that the Earth is flat is exceptionally difficult for Flat Earth activists to understand.

Debunking Flat Earth conspiracy theories is thus one aspect of combating anti-intellectualism.

Good way to illustrate how people can fall for misinformation
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Many people have a hard time to imagine how “people could be that dumb” to believe that the Earth is flat. It is often challenging to fathom how people can come to believe the most radically absurd claims about the world that we know are false. However, it is a simplification to blame it all on personal factors like a supposed lack of intelligence. This is because it not only underestimates situational factors, but also fails to explain why many, very intelligent people also accept pseudoscience and quackery.

Flat Earth pseudoscience, due to its patently absurd content, offers a stark reality of the power of misinformation. Misinformation can contribute to people starting to buy into claim that are so strongly incompatible with everything we know about basic physics. The realization that there are people who think the Earth is flat can in many ways be sobering and make it easier to understand how and why people can be ignorant and misinformed enough to be against vaccines or reject climate science.

Although Flat Earth conspiracy theories do not have anywhere near the level of danger that the anti-vaccine and climate denial have, it stands out because we have known that the Earth is not flat since the ancient Greeks like Aristotle and Eratosthenes. There is very little, if any, opposition among major political ideologies to labelling Flat Earth beliefs as pseudoscience, so it is in some ways a set of claims that almost everyone, except Flat Earth believers, can agree on is pseudoscience. It also opens up for conversations like “well if there are people who are misinformed enough to think the Earth is flat, maybe they could be misinformed on other issues as well?”


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