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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 74476 times)

Offline e2matrix

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #375 on: August 04, 2016, 04:50:26 PM »
Spock says it is totally illogical to assume the Earth is flat.   Logic clearly dictates it is a sphere.
 ;)




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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #376 on: August 04, 2016, 06:11:48 PM »
What do you think was the illusion mechanism of these non-parallel rays depicted in that image?

@Gravityblock
Did you ever try to call-up a friend who lives 100miles away from you and have him measure the sunrays' angle at the same time you are doing likewise at your place?
The angle can be easily measured with a plumb bob and a straight broomstick by positioning it so that it does not cast any shadow.

What do YOU think? Are these railroad tracks non-parallel?



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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #377 on: August 05, 2016, 06:50:49 AM »
What do YOU think? Are these railroad tracks non-parallel?
Yes, but that's different because these green  tracks go off into the distance along the Z axis of the camera's vision.
The perspective distortion would not be able to distort the parallelness of e.g. these black poles planted along the tracks (because these poles are parallel to the Y axis of the camera's vision).

The sunrays in that image were not along the Z axis so they could not have been affected by the perspective distortion like the tracks.

Offline SeaMonkey

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #378 on: August 05, 2016, 09:16:04 PM »
Quote from: Verpies
The sunrays in that image were not along the Z axis so they could
not have been affected by the perspective distortion like the tracks.

Could it be that the sun-rays in the image have been doctored?

Such distortions are easily accomplished with video processing
software which is specially designed for creating deceptions.
 
I've never observed anything like it with the naked eye on
partially (mostly) cloudy days when the rays are clearly visible.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #379 on: August 05, 2016, 09:34:55 PM »
Could it be that the sun-rays in the image have been doctored?
Of course.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #379 on: August 05, 2016, 09:34:55 PM »
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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #380 on: September 07, 2016, 05:19:49 PM »
Two more videos to ponder....  Mountains of Evidence & 6KM high powered laser test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJ8QowrcIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJ8QowrcIA

and the Gyros may tell the story even further...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeSUvYQ4Tc4

I love to question everything...makes for an wonder-full life to me!

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #381 on: September 08, 2016, 02:09:17 AM »
one youtube doubled up. Laser youtube never made it.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhDFO4NMrw

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #381 on: September 08, 2016, 02:09:17 AM »
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Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #382 on: September 08, 2016, 07:14:07 AM »
Very nice.  :) ;)

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #383 on: September 08, 2016, 07:33:17 AM »
Two more videos to ponder....  Mountains of Evidence & 6KM high powered laser test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJ8QowrcIA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHJ8QowrcIA

and the Gyros may tell the story even further...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeSUvYQ4Tc4

I love to question everything...makes for an wonder-full life to me!

j'ai deja repondu a vos pseudo arguments

votre prosélytisme est en totale contradictions avec les regles de base de ce forum

harti can you ban this guy ?

Offline tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #384 on: September 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM »
one youtube doubled up. Laser youtube never made it.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhDFO4NMrw

can you stop yours BS ?

votre prosélytisme est en totale contradictions avec les regles de base de ce forum

harti can you ban this guy ?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #384 on: September 08, 2016, 07:35:51 AM »
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Offline tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #385 on: September 08, 2016, 07:37:22 AM »
Very nice.  :) ;)

are you serious ?

this is all BS from flatearthers scam artists



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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #387 on: September 08, 2016, 12:03:08 PM »
Yes, but that's different because these green  tracks go off into the distance along the Z axis of the camera's vision.
The perspective distortion would not be able to distort the parallelness of e.g. these black poles planted along the tracks (because these poles are parallel to the Y axis of the camera's vision).

The sunrays in that image were not along the Z axis so they could not have been affected by the perspective distortion like the tracks.

Not at all. You can find many photos of tall buildings that appear to lean "inwards" toward the top. Also, architects know about this vertical perspective situation as well. For example the minarets of the Taj Mahal are actually built with a slight outward lean so that they appear vertical when viewed from the main gate.

https://dilemmaxdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/cayan-tower2.jpg

Many photos of city skylines can be found that show this perspective tilt, and many others can be found that do not, either because it has been corrected in processing or a particular angle has been used. Also remember that even the tallest buildings aren't nearly as high as the normal cloudbase on a fine fairweather cumulus day.

Not only that... but your black poles next to the railroad tracks look like they are getting shorter the farther away they are. Do you think this is real, or is it a result of perspective acting in the y-direction?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #388 on: September 08, 2016, 12:13:22 PM »
one youtube doubled up. Laser youtube never made it.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhDFO4NMrw

That's pretty silly. It has been known for a long time that the air over bodies of water can refract light beams, so objects that are actually "below" the horizon can _appear_ to be above it. It's a well-known cause of "mirages".  This is because of the dependence of refractive index of air on temperature differences in various layers of air-- the same thing that makes stars "twinkle" and appear to move around a bit at night.  Unfortunately -- for you and other flat-earthers -- this laser test is invalid for that reason.


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #389 on: September 08, 2016, 01:18:34 PM »
Eratosthenes did it more than 2000 years ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference

http://www.dummies.com/education/math/geometry/how-to-determine-the-earths-circumference/

Other very old measurements:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Measuring-the-Earth-Classical-and-Arabic-1673315

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy

But of course, they were all wrong, the earth is flat, just look out of your window. :'(

Give a tool like a laser into the hands of silly people and you will get silly results and damaged retinas. Watching these people on lake Balaton disregarding the dangers of a laser (it could easily damage your retina in the eye) raised my hair. So, please do not use lasers like an idiot, stick to the ancient measurement methods, they are straight forward.

Simple test of flatness:

Put a stick into the earth on two different locations a few hundred miles apart as vertical as you manage. And then place a person next to each stick with a cell phone. Establish a call and compare the shadow of the sticks. It works best around mid day.

Of course you should know that the sun is very far (millions of miles) away (and not close to the earth surface as some flat people want you to believe).

I know, this has all been said here before, but some people just do not understand reality.

I like this old method:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_geodesy#Al-Biruni

You only have to measure an angle on the top of a mountain (dip angle towards the plain around the mountain, could be a mountain near a lake or the sea)  and you have to know the height of the mountain relative to the plain. Even if you only know the height of the mountain approximately (50 meter accuracy, a map will tell you) it will show that the earth has to be a sphere and not flat.

If the mountain is 500 meters high (above the plain, lake or sea you use as a reference for the drop angle) the drop angle is about 0.7 degrees. So, you need a good surveying instrument (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodolite, minute resolution).

This theodolite should do http://www.u-t-b.at/at/vermessungsgeraete/theodolite/mechanische-theodolite/geofennel-fet-500.html#.V9F24q04r9A , resolution 0.1 gon (about 0.1°) if you only want to proof that the earth is a sphere. The calculated radius will be between 4000 and 10000 kilometres, which is well beyond flat.

Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: September 08, 2016, 04:41:08 PM by conradelektro »

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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