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Author Topic: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?  (Read 60996 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #345 on: June 28, 2016, 02:34:38 AM »
The below quote is taken from the video description as found in my previous post.

"There is no southern pole star. What folks are seeing when they look south is a perspective produced counter rotation. For example: If you are at the north pole, polaris will be directly overhead and all the stars will be rotating around it - and the stars just above the horizon will do a big circle around you staying parallel to the horizon, right?... I don't know how much you know about perspective, but notice how the clouds will angle down towards YOUR horizon THE FURTHER AWAY FROM YOU THEY ARE. Keep this in mind. The further south you go... Polaris will get lower and lower in the northern sky FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. Let's say you go far enough south that Polaris is on your horizon... the surrounding stars that were rotating around you at the north pole would now be rising in the east and setting in the west. And if you look to the south, you will see a counter rotation DUE TO PERPSECTIVE. This is tough to understand, I get that. Think about it for a while..."

You photographing galaxies that are millions of light years away is an ignorant fantasy based on a fairy tale as told by NASA and TPTB!

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You are hilarious! Citing quotations from a video made by someone who is also completely ignorant about astronomy. You still have not explained the photo from the Canary Islands where TWO centers of rotation are shown, one CLOCKWISE and the other COUNTERCLOCKWISE at the same time. This is not an "illusion of perspective". It is what happens when you rotate a SPHERE and then map that rotation onto a flat surface like the plane of the image. Try it with an orange and your two hands.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #346 on: June 28, 2016, 02:39:20 AM »
Eratosthenes' model depends on the assumption that the earth is a globe and that the sun is far away and therefore produces parallel rays of light all over the earth.

Mainstream science has sought to explain away crepuscular rays of the sun (see first image below) that are extremely damaging to the heliocentric model, as just the result of a visual phenomenon known as linear perspective. The problem is... perspective can't explain these rays.  This video (second image below) shows that the very perspective they invoke to try and save the heliocentric model from these damaging crepuscular rays actually indicts the heliocentric model as a fraud

Gravock

ROFL ! For someone who uses the term "perspective" in his posts, you are remarkably ignorant and gullible. The Crespuscular rays are INDEED parallel, and what your image is showing is an illusion of perspective.  You continue to provide idiotic and incorrect "explanations" of your crazy theory about flat-earth, which are so easy to prove wrong it's not even challenging at all.
 
http://www.lonestardigital.com/Perspective_Correction/N_Digital_WA.jpg

I suppose you think those buildings are really leaning towards each other. Guess what: They are not, they are all parallel to each other and perpendicular to the ground JUST LIKE CREPUSCULAR RAYS actually are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography)

All you need to do is to get someone to stand in each of those spots where the rays hit the earth, and have them measure the angle to the Sun. You will find that they all _agree_, if the measurement is done at the same time, and report the same declination and right ascension for the Sun. Your theory is falsified continually.



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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #347 on: June 28, 2016, 02:48:43 AM »
Incidentally, those of use who have computerized German Equatorial telescope mounts can easily falsify your "flat earth sky dome" delusion for themselves. These mounts can be set to "track" objects in the sky, all the way around, during a 24 hour period. If they are tracking a star which is at the zenith at midnight, hence pointing straight up, they can continue to track this star as the globular Earth rotates and at NOON, they will be pointing STRAIGHT DOWN.  And at that exact same time, an observer in the opposite hemisphere at the corresponding latitude, where it is now night, tracking that same star, will see his telescope mount pointing STRAIGHT UP.  Hence, once again falsifying your "Sky dome" and "Flat Earth" delusions.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #348 on: June 29, 2016, 12:08:55 PM »
Just some simple questions to Gravoc.
Since the Earth is flat, how does it look like on the other side? Can you present some pictures of the other side? Maybe you have the picture of the EDGE of the FLAT EARTH? How wide (narrow) is the edge? What happens with airplanes on or near the edge, can they fly over the edge to get the other side of the flat Earth? Does the SUN fly over one flat surface, or visits also the other one? Does the flat earth contains one or more magnetic poles, and where are they located? If two, one of them must be underside of the flat earth, right? Some guys already mentioned this: what happens with the Sun on night hours? The Earth is the center of the Universe, and the Sun and other stars and all universe fly around the Earth, right?


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #349 on: June 29, 2016, 12:32:26 PM »
Someone already asked this question but I never saw an answer.  If I missed it please repost the answer.  How can the sun be shining brightly at high noon in North America and it be pitch dark in the middle of the night in Australia if the earth is a flat disk?  It is obvious the flouride added to our water supplies around the world have done a great job of destroying the thinking ability of humans.  It seems there are only a few left with the ability to use common sense.

I have not wasted my time reading this whole thread but I do have another question that may have already been answered.  What benefit is it to believe the earth is a flat disc?  Other than trying to prove the governments of this world will lie to us, why is there any reason to believe in a flat earth?  I mean most of us are pretty sure we are lied to regularly by our governments so why the big deal about a supposed flat earth theory?  I just don't see the point in believing something so foolish.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #349 on: June 29, 2016, 12:32:26 PM »
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Offline tagor

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #350 on: June 29, 2016, 12:33:58 PM »
The Earth is the center of the Universe, and the Sun and other stars and all universe fly around the Earth, right?

why and how are they moving if the earth is flat ?
if we have a flat erath ... gravity is not working ... and we are waiting for a model ?
but the grave is ko for the moment !

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #351 on: June 29, 2016, 02:37:06 PM »
why and how are they moving if the earth is flat ?
if we have a flat erath ... gravity is not working ... and we are waiting for a model ?
but the grave is ko for the moment !



Why, why, why... I don't know why; But Gravoc certainly knows.


Additional question(s) to Gravoc, or other flat-Earth-enthusiasts (f-E-es): Is it determined, where the edge of the flat Earth is? Is it in, or close to a certain city (cities), or on (around) a sea; in my opinion, it can be exactly determined. Have you heard about an expedition to the edge?


In this movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YQ0dMJEjsk [size=78%]at 8:20 starts a simulation which shows flat Earth and the Sun. On this flat earth a clear border of day/night is seen. But the author does not mention how that border is determined. Maybe some f-e-es here, on this site can explain this?
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 09:37:51 PM by Qwert »

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #352 on: June 30, 2016, 03:05:42 AM »
This is not real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30KSt4Iy9Q8

The rocket motor is only six inches long and the burn is filmed at high speed and then slowed down during playback.  It's called Supermarionation.

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #353 on: June 30, 2016, 05:19:58 PM »
I'm terribly, terribly sorry, Gravock, I've just jumped-into this site and also into this thread after long absence. Today I'm reading and learning this site more thoroughly and I found this post, which says everything about you and your KNOWLEDGE. I guess, from this point, since we have a religious dogma, it makes nonsense to discuss ANY scientific "dogmas":

http://overunity.com/16571/is-the-earth-a-flat-round-disc-or-is-it-a-round-spherical-globe/msg482805/#msg482805

I have one question, however:
In the post from above link, you say: They've been unsuccessfully trying to breach this glass-like dome for a long time.

 My question is: WHO ARE/WERE THOSE "THEY"?

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #354 on: July 01, 2016, 03:28:39 PM »
I'm terribly, terribly sorry, Gravock, I've just jumped-into this site and also into this thread after long absence. Today I'm reading and learning this site more thoroughly and I found this post, which says everything about you and your KNOWLEDGE. I guess, from this point, since we have a religious dogma, it makes nonsense to discuss ANY scientific "dogmas":

http://overunity.com/16571/is-the-earth-a-flat-round-disc-or-is-it-a-round-spherical-globe/msg482805/#msg482805

I have one question, however:
In the post from above link, you say: They've been unsuccessfully trying to breach this glass-like dome for a long time.

 My question is: WHO ARE/WERE THOSE "THEY"?
do you mean this psychotic dogma ?  the GOD word is Gold Oil and Diamonds it's Demonic, any control, restriction, serial lying is all demonic all roads lead to Satanic world and universe including the aliens, think about it every animal eats the next one down the food chain every living thing suffers and dies one way or another, but when we die we are released and we are light, we are the light everything in creation is light, it's pure energy, a continuous consciousness of this dimension, wake up out of this delusional psychotic nightmare your creating for yourself. ;)
« Last Edit: July 02, 2016, 02:10:45 AM by AlienGrey »

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Offline Qwert

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #355 on: July 01, 2016, 09:59:54 PM »

{'m not gonna discuss religious dogmas on this forum cuz of two reasons: one reason is that I do not know the subject, and another reason is that we are not allowed to discuss religious subjects on this forum (read the rules).

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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #356 on: July 02, 2016, 01:27:26 AM »
{'m not gonna discuss religious dogmas on this forum cuz of two reasons: one reason is that I do not know the subject, and another reason is that we are not allowed to discuss religious subjects on this forum (read the rules).
no one mentioned any religion as such, it was 'psychotic dogma' no more than the fact that
In fact the flat earth was actually a religious belief of the church at the time and disbelievers were disposed of by execution, so what you are saying is that in effect is your trying to create a situation where religion is entered by the back door by discussing this  thread.

You can't have one without the other as it is of historic interest on learning the truth of what your trying to hide to everyone involved and your only allowing half the bull shit to be known your side only and this thread is totally inappropriate for this forum and should be discontinued as you pointed out yourself !


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #358 on: July 03, 2016, 02:11:57 PM »
The one thing i have learned over the years,is never believe what NASA tells you--most of it is crap.

I dont care much for the !flat earth! theory,but like most,believe the earth is a ball that just floats around in space-right?. ;D

Anyway,who knows what Chandra is?
Yes,it is--err was suppose to be-Quote: The Chandra X-ray Observatory (CXO), previously known as the Advanced X-ray Astrophysics Facility (AXAF), is a space observatory launched on STS-93 by NASA on July 23, 1999. Chandra is sensitive to X-ray sources 100 times fainter than any previous X-ray telescope, enabled by the high angular resolution of its mirrors. Since the Earth's atmosphere absorbs the vast majority of X-rays, they are not detectable from Earth-based telescopes; therefore space-based telescopes are required to make these observations. Chandra is an Earth satellite in a 64-hour orbit, and its mission is ongoing as of 2016.
Chandra is one of the Great Observatories, along with the Hubble Space Telescope, Compton Gamma Ray Observatory (1991–2000), and the Spitzer Space Telescope. The telescope is named after astrophysicist Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar


So it's a telescope-right? ::)
Here is the official mission/function for Chandra,from the UNOOSA- United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs. Everything launched into space has to be registered with UNOOSA.
Lets have a look at what they say Chandra's mission is
Quote: Spacecraft engaged in investigation of spaceflight techniques and technology.
Dose anyone see !Telescope! there in that description?.

http://www.unoosa.org/oosa/osoindex/search-ng.jspx?lf_id=

If we look at hubble,we see the function being
Quote: Research and exploration of the upper atmosphere or outer space.
Now that looks to resemble a telescope--so what is Chandra?


Brad


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Re: Is The Earth A Flat Round Disc or Is It a Round Spherical Globe?
« Reply #359 on: July 03, 2016, 02:45:19 PM »
One has to wonder as to how we can see satellites in the sky at night,when they are all in the Earths shadow. Light dose not bend that much around the earth,and there is no reflected light from other sources in space,and we know that we cant see the moon when it is in this shadow phase,so how do we see the satellite's that are between the earth and moon,when we cant see the giant moon?

Also,we may see one of two satellites every 5 to 10 minutes on a clear night,but looking at how many are !suppose! to be up there,one would think it would look like a busy city at night.

Believe nothing--question eveything
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