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Author Topic: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.  (Read 8486 times)

Offline conradelektro

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2016, 03:07:17 PM »

Which of you losers wants to build it and prove Bearden and myself wrong...its your perfect opportunity....Do you realize its not Beardens circuit any more? Its Bearden with a twist.......or do you fall under my warning as quoted in my original offer.....


It has been said very often in this forum that negative proof is not possible (or better said: a negative proof is a logical fallacy), but I want to repeat it for Meta and all people who still do not understand what can be proved and what can not be proved.

Look at this web site, it explains very clearly why Meta is wrong by demanding "Bearden or himself should be proved wrong":

http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialsciences/ppecorino/phil_of_religion_text/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm

https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY (if you prefer to watch a video explaining the burden of proof)


For all who can not read and understand the above web site, I explain it in very simple words:

- One can not prove that Bearden's MEG does not work. Whatever one builds and if it does not work, someone can claim that an essential feature has been overlooked or that it was implemented in a wrong way.

- But one could prove that Bearden's MEG works indeed by demonstrating a working MEG. Of course the demonstration must be clear and measurements must be verifiable by third parties.

Said in even simpler terms: The burden of proof is with Bearden or Meta.

Greetings, Conrad

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Offline verpies

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2016, 08:44:14 PM »
It has been said very often in this forum that negative proof is not possible (or better said: a negative proof is a logical fallacy),
More precisely an existential negative proof is a logical fallacy.
This happens because:  the lack of proof of existence, is not a proof of non-existence.


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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2016, 08:50:22 PM »
Then maybe--just maybe,some one will have the time to waste...
It is not only about time.

To make a SPST bilateral switch that switches-OFF high voltage below 10ns costs ~10kUSD.
...and switching-OFF below 1ns costs at least ~100kUSD.

But the MetaQEG requires two SPDT bilateral switches, with unknown delays between the throws (MBF?).  You can only guess how much that would cost!


P.S.
Switching ON high voltage with speeds around 1ns is cheap because an ordinary spark-gap can do that.  Krytrons and Sprytrons are better of course, albeit not cheap ;)

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2016, 10:19:35 PM »


Offline Meta

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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2016, 02:31:09 AM »
Calm down Meta   your sounding just like that Atom guy, Go back and read your reply to each comment you have I'm sure it says much about you!

life is for learning and control is Satanic demonic even.

Since when did my thread become an examination of the messenger rather than the job I give to you to examine the message, which you consistantly fail to do.

You assholes consistantly turn every thread into the erroneous premise that

If the messenger is a saint, the messengers device will work.
If the messenger has errors, at all, the device is unworthy.

Listen up assholes, my devise doesnt care who I am and I will be anyone I want to be, toward you.

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2016, 02:31:09 AM »
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Offline Meta

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2016, 02:43:27 AM »
- One can not prove that Bearden's MEG does not work. Whatever one builds and if it does not work, someone can claim that an essential feature has been overlooked or that it was implemented in a wrong way.

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OK if you got over the negative proof, let me make it easy for you......

I give you the task of building the MetaQEG if you have the tools and test instruments.....any one of you....you have two days to respond.....we will work together....if you build and test it with instruments and it doesnt work as advertised then both of us have failed and we will drop the machine off to a third party to have it verified.....deal or no deal.

My guess is you will reject this offer and continue skirting the actual doing of it, with more worthless blab.

Offline ramset

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2016, 02:52:00 AM »
Well
this would normally be the part where somebody gives you a slight attitude adjustment whilst dribbling your Noggin down the Bar. 

but Stefan doesn't let us do that anymore..... :'(

careful with that door it closes quick ... Don't let it hit you on the way out...







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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
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Offline Meta

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« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2016, 02:56:42 AM »
More precisely an existential negative proof is a logical fallacy.
This happens because:  the lack of proof of existence, is not a proof of non-existence.

Permit me to even further explain concerning your proofs, that all of science loves to use as a block to all new theories.....

For proof to exist, it must be attached to an Absolute, in some way. I know of only two absolutes and one is the ratio of a diameter to a circumference of a circle, no matter how large or small the circle and that is 3.14159xxx infinitum. The other is the ratio between the outer and inner volumns of a torus, that always being 3....I have the maths for that.

Since no one has ever converted any letter, sentence or paragraph to number equivalents and associated them with these Absolutes, all so called proofs, all facts, all truths and all words we hold dear are mere speculations, arbitrary, relative and mere opinion, sometimes backed up by strength of will and weapons....that all...it just your worthless opinion against my worthless opinion and I favor my opinion over yours.

Offline ARMCORTEX

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« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2016, 02:59:28 AM »
Yeah Meta, if you talk that talk, you must walk the walk.

Having an attitude is good and sometimes funny, but you must also work and produce.

So far I see no work, I dont have much respect for slackers who talk like Nasa generals.

GTFO.

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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2016, 03:01:34 AM »
Well
this would normally be the part where somebody gives you a slight attitude adjustment whilst dribbling your Noggin down the Bar. 

but Stefan doesn't let us do that anymore..... :'(

careful with that door it closes quick ... Don't let it hit you on the way out...

Ohh so you are that cretin who will theaten with violence rather than resort to your higher form of law you allegedly possess? We know your type. Get off my thread.

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« Reply #39 on: April 08, 2016, 03:01:34 AM »
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Offline Meta

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« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2016, 03:05:35 AM »
Yeah Meta, if you talk that talk, you must walk the walk.

Having an attitude is good and sometimes funny, but you must also work and produce.

So far I see no work, I dont have much respect for slackers who talk like Nasa generals.

GTFO.

You've already missed the deal I offer in the very first post....I give the project to anyone who has the time and tools to build the circuit.....Im not the one building it, you are....if you want to stop your big mouth and do it. You GTFO if you dont have what it takes, loser.

Offline ARMCORTEX

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2016, 03:12:40 AM »
I understand that you are yound and very immature.

But you are showing boxes diagram, based on assumptions from Tom Bearden, a man who has never shown a working device, and to my knowledge, nobody has replicated nothing worth anything based on his information.

The first thing to become an inventor, learn and do, be logical.


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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2016, 03:14:21 AM »
To make a SPST bilateral switch that switches-OFF high voltage below 10ns costs ~10kUSD.
...and switching-OFF below 1ns costs at least ~100kUSD.

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Bearden once said,

"the electron is the (fast) switch".

Can you grasp it.

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« Reply #43 on: April 08, 2016, 03:19:23 AM »
The first thing to become an inventor, learn and do, be logical.

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I'll repeat it just once more for you.

Im giving you permission to build it for me because I dont have the tools for it. Clear enough?


Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
« Reply #44 on: April 08, 2016, 03:32:27 AM »
Its not about money, its about the fact that it dont work. Its an easy excuse.

Money is only 1/4 of the problem, and sometimes it is not an issue if you have the knowledge

And it something costs so much, you should move on to something else, or it needs total redesign.

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Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
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