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Author Topic: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story  (Read 15709 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2016, 07:30:13 AM »
Fucking stupid people think there is an already made theory and guide to follow.

No, there is only youtube and guesswork.

You seek an answer but there is none, all you have is questions.

And for you, there is only one thing, Hillary recovery, nevermind overunity designs, its too expensive and you dont know how to make it yourself.

You need, metal, tools, bearings, solid design, if all this is impossible for you then you should find another hobby for the time being.

First, become good builder, then, in your spare time, with spare money, build for pleasure and see.

You will not succeed, but you will learn useful things in your path to the magic overunity dream.


You need "helpfull hands and minds" ! Also "capital risc/risc capital" ! Begins with our free-/spare -time


Each good budgeted R&D -project should be calculated with 250000 US$ !


A good idea,prototype exists,financial help ?! Theory and practizise.Real world
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/komoto-fans-heat-2000sf-for-4-cents-per-hour#/

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
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Offline Eighthman

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2016, 06:52:22 PM »
One of my wonderments in regard to overunity devices - especially those involving centrifugal force - was the construction of Schauberger's inventions.

How the heck did he create multiple metal tubes that were elliptical in cross section, followed a twist, curved and tapered ????!!!  OMG! It's hard enough to visualize boring a rifle barrel accurately!

Not only that,  but I would think that some sort of precision was required in following some mathematical formula he uncovered empirically.  This makes me wonder if Clem found an easier way to accomplish this, perhaps around a cone-shaped metal rotor with a spiral cut into its surface ( as with the related asphalt pump).

I need to look at Laithwaite's experiments and see if anyone put everything on a scale so that the guy holding the rod with the spinning rotor weighs the same in total compared to a static situation -or not.  Might be some clues here......


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2016, 08:59:12 PM »
Yes, I'm replying to my own post....... A wise man observed that if you want to understand a subject, explain it in writing.  If you can do that,  you've got it.
Logically, if the Schauberger pipes were elliptical, then an unbalanced centrifugal force was involved as it moved along. What a coincidence....
And yes, I read that some of Laithwaite's devices did show quite a weight loss when running.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2016, 10:35:01 PM »
To build my design and an awesome video for you guys, I need one of you to order me Topsolid.

I already got into a verbal fight with the reseller here, basicly he is a lazy hack and made my life difficult.

Now I need to deal with the US resellers.

I will wire money to them.

Call them up in the US, say you have a company named LB.inc

I will collect the license, they just need somebody to call.

« Last Edit: August 05, 2016, 05:35:44 AM by ARMCORTEX »


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2017, 07:21:12 PM »
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapt16.html


Replying to my own thread again (!)   The thought occurred to me that some of Bedini's motors might follow the same set of principles as Linevich/Kanarev.   You remove and then add back rotational energy using pulses.  This hit me as I stumbled across one of his drawings. Again, this may be consistent with the Aspden Effect in which a flywheel can be re-energized with less energy than that which was needed to establish a certain number of RPM's in the first place.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
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Offline TechStuf

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2017, 08:24:00 PM »
Eighthman, check this guy out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIt661hfr9c

Just one of many examples which show that we mere mortals are befuddled at the simplest of physical oddities.  Universities still teach that Thornson's demo is "impossible".  The vast majority of the "education" centers the world over, specialize greatest at producing "arrested development"...cranking out minion after minion just smart enough (yet willingly dumb enough) to support a thoroughly corroded, rusting, crumbling....'machine'.

This crumbling 'cryptotech' machine has reached black hole status.  The 'machine' is now both self powering and self defeating.  It will capture all who come too close, and escape after close contact is a viable option for relatively few blessed souls.

The Light of countless suns will soon free us all from our (mankind's) long, sordid history of dominating one another to our own demise....

http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/04/ancient-high-performance-electric-motors-discovered-that-are-still-in-production-2685290.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/11/faith-is-the-fabric-of-space-time-the-inner-life-of-a-cell-all-is-belief-2649218.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/06/pole-shift-of-noahs-day-about-to-happen-again-heres-the-evidence-you-decide-2461772.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2016/12/magnetar-explosion-causes-deadliest-quake-in-modern-history-from-the-opposite-side-of-the-galaxy-2598790.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2016/12/magnetar-explosion-causes-deadliest-quake-in-modern-history-from-the-opposite-side-of-the-galaxy-2598790.html

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2016/09/malwart-and-the-mark-of-the-beast-the-mark-is-not-hidden-its-everywhere-2487951.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzurtPFe9jE

It has all unfolded exactly as foretold millennia ago....and is not coincidence.  Do not be discouraged, for just as His Word has proven correct about how it would all go down, His Word is also correct about how and who would go UP.  Up and far beyond the mess that corrupted mankind has made.

Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the commanders, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and free man, hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16And they said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fallon us and hide us from the face of the Oneseated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. 17For the great day of Their wrath has come, and who is able to withstand it?”…Revelation 6:16

Watch therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Luke 21:36



All the Best...
« Last Edit: March 27, 2017, 10:41:12 PM by TechStuf »

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #51 on: March 27, 2017, 09:04:10 PM »
So we gonna die?

I got 2 months of soylent 1.6 I am in better shape than Yemenis.

After I run out, I hope to find shotgun and parts for overunity device as I travel across zombie fields.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #52 on: March 27, 2017, 09:24:21 PM »
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapt16.html


Replying to my own thread again (!)   The thought occurred to me that some of Bedini's motors might follow the same set of principles as Linevich/Kanarev.   You remove and then add back rotational energy using pulses.  This hit me as I stumbled across one of his drawings. Again, this may be consistent with the Aspden Effect in which a flywheel can be re-energized with less energy than that which was needed to establish a certain number of RPM's in the first place.

I won't vouch for "the Aspden Effect" in any way nor have I read any of the others you mention but I will point out two of many FACTS learned and proven in my own efforts.

"OBSERVED ENERGY FACTS:
1. All Matter has potential energy, matter in motion develops Kinetic energy.

2. Less energy input is required per second to sustain matter in motion than is developed per second beyond the objects threshold Velocity." - from http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/facts.html

They go right along with what caught your attention.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2017, 04:21:18 PM »
In looking over the Linevich stuff - as well as some similar devices - it has also occurred to me that the absence of a solid, practical 'free energy' device may be a matter of engineering.


For example, I tried to make a Werjefelt 'magnetic battery' but soon found out that balancing attraction and repulsion in permanent magnets is nearly impossible.  And even if you could, the magnets strength will likely change because some of them are forced into opposition - which can degrade them. So, start again if you succeed at first.


As for Linevich and others, i wonder if they truly found something earth-shaking but trying to engineer unbalanced loads rotating at high speeds may be nearly impossible.  His approach of two weighted gears driven by a central gear is clever but I'm not sure if it's clever enough. Some of his experiments flew apart and I wonder if that's where the matter lies at present. 

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2017, 07:33:28 PM »
"OBSERVED ENERGY FACTS:
1. All Matter has potential energy, matter in motion develops Kinetic energy.

2. Less energy input is required per second to sustain matter in motion than is developed per second beyond the objects threshold Velocity." - from http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/facts.html "

1: matter in motion does not develop Kinetic energy: it HAS Kinetic energy when in motion.
2. "Less energy input is required per second to sustain matter in motion than is developed per second beyond the objects threshold Velocity." WRONG: NO energy is required to sustain matter in motion,  UNLESS ANOTHER FORCE (such as friction) acts on the matter in motion. Then only the exact same amount of energy as 'lost' (converted) is needed to return to the same velocity.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #55 on: March 30, 2017, 03:29:22 PM »
"OBSERVED ENERGY FACTS:
1. All Matter has potential energy, matter in motion develops Kinetic energy.

2. Less energy input is required per second to sustain matter in motion than is developed per second beyond the objects threshold Velocity." - from http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/facts.html "

1: matter in motion does not develop Kinetic energy: it HAS Kinetic energy when in motion.
2. "Less energy input is required per second to sustain matter in motion than is developed per second beyond the objects threshold Velocity." WRONG: NO energy is required to sustain matter in motion,  UNLESS ANOTHER FORCE (such as friction) acts on the matter in motion. Then only the exact same amount of energy as 'lost' (converted) is needed to return to the same velocity.

For the benefit of others, and as an ACT to be kind to you, quoting from http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/energy.html this addresses your thinking/understanding which is very common.

"* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This is accepted as fact and known by the scientific and physics communities.
Placing ANY matter in motion requires Force to overcome Inertia and friction.
ANY and ALL Matter in motion DEVELOPS Kinetic energy within the Matter itself by an act of Nature.     

I certainly agree there are losses with every conversion, transfer of "energy", power or force. We know this to be fact and true. My research and thoughts on why it is like it is go deep but suffice it to say we have been doing things for centuries that are not as efficient as they can be. As men we unnecessarily tend to over complicate everything we do. Ponder this: If E = mc2 : then

1. What form of "energy" was Albert thinking of?

2. What state of matter? Any and All matter or unobtainium?

3. If a particle of matter becomes "Pure energy" at the speed of light squared is that not a conversion and subject to the same losses we live with today? Or would that mean that we "created energy" which we have already ruled out as not within our capability as mortal men to "create" anything, let alone "energy" itself?

4. Would the "energy" DEVELOP progressively with Velocity or just poof into existence all of a sudden?

5. Would not two particles double the energy by simple addition?

6. Would not multiple particles simply multiply the energy?

What do we get if we DEVELOP and ADD ADDITIONAL "ENERGY" exceeding the very real losses at every such conversion we currently accept as just the way it is?"

AND

Quoting from: http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/planes.html
"The only limits as to how much Kinetic Energy can be developed are our own thinking and the physical structural limits of matter we have available to place in motion."

You can "think" I am "wrong", but that doesn't change reality. Can you please make thoughtful reply, especially to #4?


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #56 on: March 30, 2017, 04:34:42 PM »
"ANY and ALL Matter in motion DEVELOPS Kinetic energy within the Matter itself by an act of Nature." that is false; please clarify what you mean by 'act of Nature'.
1: why does that matter? (pun intended)
2: ALL matter
3: "If a particle of matter becomes "Pure energy" at the speed of light squared" that applies to photons, which have no mass-at-rest; it does not apply to all matter. What we call 'losses are a name given to energy in a form that we don't want (e.g. heat).
4: it gets transferred/converted from the driving force according to e=mv^2, so, gradually.
5: yes
6: yes; "What do we get if we DEVELOP and ADD ADDITIONAL "ENERGY" exceeding the very real losses at every such conversion we currently accept as just the way it is?" that is a speculation, not a fact. There is NO evidence that this can/does occur.

"The only limits as to how much Kinetic Energy can be developed are our own thinking and the physical structural limits of matter we have available to place in motion." again, you make a statement without backing it with evidence or proof.
 
Your fundamental errors are in how you use language: changing/converting are not the same as developing. LoT1 states: "the total energy of an isolated system is constant; energy can be transformed from one form to another, but neither can it be created nor it can be destroyed." note that the word 'develop' is not used.


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2017, 10:26:44 PM »
Show me ONE actual device (not a youtube video or patent application or pdf or claim) that uses these principles.


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #59 on: March 30, 2017, 10:57:14 PM »
Show me ONE actual device (not a youtube video or patent application or pdf or claim) that uses these principles.

Victor Arestov http://arestov.de/index.php/de/ 
  Edvid Linevich R&D co-partner
https://www.xing.com/communities/posts/alternative-loesung-zur-energiegewinnung-1003340445
Der russische Wissenschaftler Edwid Linevich (Vladivostok) hat im August 2007 ein Patent für einen Unwuchtmotor angemeldet, der den Weg in zu einer umweltverträglichen Stromversorgung ebnen kann. Die Funktionfähigkeit des Motors wurde mit einem Testmodell im März 2008 unter Beweis gestellt. http://www.perpetuumobile.eu Die Testergebnisse sind erstaunlich:
Bei einer Leistungsaufnahme von nur 25 Watt entwickelt der Motor eine Leistung von 400 Watt .

call to him and ask about the prototype

an other "offer" from India :
                   faked reality ?
http://www.worldlever.com/narasimman.html
this compared with :
https://www.google.com/patents/US8541894 Jerry Blevins (R.I.P.) JBpower
http://jbpowersystems.weebly.com/index.html

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