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Author Topic: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story  (Read 17313 times)

Offline memoryman

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #105 on: April 07, 2017, 05:43:10 PM »
Mike, you have not countered my response to your post (maybe you can't?):
"ANY and ALL Matter in motion DEVELOPS Kinetic energy within the Matter itself by an act of Nature." that is false; please clarify what you mean by 'act of Nature'.
1: why does that matter? (pun intended)
2: ALL matter
3: "If a particle of matter becomes "Pure energy" at the speed of light squared" that applies to photons, which have no mass-at-rest; it does not apply to all matter. What we call 'losses are a name given to energy in a form that we don't want (e.g. heat).
4: it gets transferred/converted from the driving force according to e=mv^2, so, gradually.
5: yes
6: yes; "What do we get if we DEVELOP and ADD ADDITIONAL "ENERGY" exceeding the very real losses at every such conversion we currently accept as just the way it is?" that is a speculation, not a fact. There is NO evidence that this can/does occur.

"The only limits as to how much Kinetic Energy can be developed are our own thinking and the physical structural limits of matter we have available to place in motion." again, you make a statement without backing it with evidence or proof.
 
Your fundamental errors are in how you use language: changing/converting are not the same as developing. LoT1 states: "the total energy of an isolated system is constant; energy can be transformed from one form to another, but neither can it be created nor it can be destroyed." note that the word 'develop' is not used.

Websites such as OU and R-G are to have technical information and discussions, they are NOT about personal matters.
A lie is the telling of something by the teller, that is KNOWN and acknowledged to be untrue.
It is distinct from: opinion, promise (where the teller could not know that the promise would not be kept).
So when YOU promised that Rudy and I would be shown your flywheel device that generates energy, when we visited you, and didn't get to see it, it was a lie by YOU, as you KNEW that you couldn't show that because you never had such a device (and still don't).

As to:
"ngepro Mod Temporal Visitor/guest • 2 years ago
Well Mike, I don't lie or make empty promises." that statement was true then as it is now.
I have lied in the past. I stopped many years ago.
I don't care about your website, as it has errors on it (as Simon also pointed out); haven't been there in years. Stick to facts.

ARMCORTEX: "Of all the things you could do in life that is a pretty pathetic choice." Actually, chasing an impossibility is far more 'pathetic', as far as I am concerned.

Eighthman: which other sites have I 'haunted'? Are you referring to the site that was run by a child molester?

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #105 on: April 07, 2017, 05:43:10 PM »

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #106 on: April 07, 2017, 10:47:51 PM »
Ok well its a fun hobby to have, at the worst case scenario. Its a certainty that you defend day in day out.

I dont see the goal of your existence...

Let those with a hobby do their hobby.

Is your hobby being a skeptic on overunity site and sop others from doing their hobby?



Offline memoryman

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #107 on: April 07, 2017, 11:28:49 PM »
I get some value out of being here from posters such as MileHigh, TinselKoala and Mark D.
Some others also appreciate my comments; I don't care if others don't.
Anyone can believe what they want; I may choose to comment or not. Most threads don't interest me and so I don't comment or follow, especially by 'that_prophet',"franco malgarini" and "   ltseung888'
I am usually willing to discuss any topic as long as it doesn't get personal.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #108 on: April 08, 2017, 02:03:28 AM »
"Mike, you have not countered my response to your post (maybe you can't?): "
"Stick to facts." - OK, no problem, enjoy.

Countering your response was/is not required for the FACT it explained why it was posted:
For the benefit of others, and as an ACT to be kind to you, quoting from http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/energy.html this addresses your thinking/understanding which is very common.

 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
You can "think" I am "wrong", but that doesn't change reality. Can you please make thoughtful reply, especially to #4?

Fact is: while writing a detailed response to you it became obvious that I was wasting time on you who has already proven them self to be the epitome of the "Unhealthy skeptic" - and the decision was made to again be kind and not bother you with facts you appearently cannot deal with nor get around, thus that reply was never posted by my choice.

IN FACT it was you who later and elsewhere made the "exceptional" and very "personal " claim first and went on to invite "examining".

IN FACT it was you that set yourself up to be knocked down with your own words.

FACT IS I simply did what you suggested and helped you examine yourself in a question that required few words.

FACT IS: In your own answer - You shot your self in the head - and don't like it.

Now you try to weasle out of it with all the usual tricks - to no avail. Like I told you before: You are done.


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #109 on: April 08, 2017, 02:10:47 AM »
The FACT is, as usual you demonstrated or proved NOTHING to anyone ever, because you can't.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #110 on: April 08, 2017, 02:21:28 AM »
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I get some value out of being here from posters such as MileHigh, TinselKoala and Mark D

You can learn a bit about mainstream physics from them - but not about what you actually did come here for, i.e. about overunity. Now you have to put the principal question: did you come to this forum to read, why overunity can NOT work - or about the opposite? If you want to learn mainstream physics, there are many way better forums for it.

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The FACT is, as usual you demonstrated or proved NOTHING to anyone ever, because you can't

One thing I can tell you for sure: once you don't believe in overunity, then you're predestined to never invent it or contribute to it - and not just this: you'll also prohibit in its finding for others - willingly or not. The findings and inventions are waiting only for positively tuned minds. Once you admit, that you can't do something, then you're already defeated in your heart and you're just trolling others with your incompetence.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #111 on: April 08, 2017, 03:58:39 AM »
Zephyr, thanks for a reasoned post.
I looked at some posts initially out of curiosity and stayed because of certain posters.
"One thing I can tell you for sure: once you don't believe in overunity, then you're predestined to never invent it or contribute to it - and not just this: you'll also prohibit in its finding for others - willingly or not. The findings and inventions are waiting only for positively tuned minds. Once you admit, that you can't do something, then you're already defeated in your heart and you're just trolling others with your incompetence." incorrect in several ways. You know nothing about me other than that I am a skeptic; that is an ongoing journey. Being a skeptic means that everything, all claim are continuously examined, including 'laws'. The result is that I am involved in something that is as close to OU as you can get. It challenges the 2nd law of thermodynamic (2LoT). Currently the aim is to get a working prototype this summer or fall, and then see if it can be scaled up to produce power in an usable amount.
If you think that "The findings and inventions are waiting only for positively tuned minds", my mind must be tuned well, as I have a number of ideas and inventions; and actual products.
Enough for now.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #112 on: April 08, 2017, 04:23:53 AM »
I'm going to get a bit philosophical here in regard to overunity.  I fail to understand why objections to free energy become truly religious. No one should support theories about conservation of energy or thermodynamics to any degree greater than solid experiments show.


If free energy was easy, direct and widely available in nature, we wouldn't exist because the whole universe would be a sort of blazing inferno of light, heat or electric discharges.  If free energy exists, it has to be subtle and very limited.  The "place" to look is in anomalies - the little stuff hiding in footnotes and fringe observations, suggesting that loopholes exist.


Why would anyone 'religiously' believe that there is never, never any exceptions to supposed laws of physics?  Do they think that the "Universe" as some sort of Omnipresent God zealously keeps this all perfect, everywhere, everytime?  If we introduced the idea of God as Creator in biology, you would hear screams of objection but somehow no one seems to complain when an EVEN GREATER miraculous direction of nature is called for by physicists insisting on 'laws'.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #113 on: April 08, 2017, 04:55:43 AM »
Eighthman: some observations. First, this is not a personal attack, but a discussion.
"I'm going to get a bit philosophical here in regard to overunity.  I fail to understand why objections to free energy become truly religious. No one should support theories about conservation of energy or thermodynamics to any degree greater than solid experiments show." well, we have hundreds, even thousands of years of observation and experimentation that confirm that energy is conserved (LoT1) and no evidence that is is not.
LoT2 is a somewhat different law, as it is statistical, not absolute. There exist a number of devices that make use of this statistical nature; scaling it up his been the problem. We hope to solve that problem by 2020; no guarantee.

If free energy was easy, direct and widely available in nature, we wouldn't exist because the whole universe would be a sort of blazing inferno of light, heat or electric discharges.  If free energy exists, it has to be subtle and very limited.  The "place" to look is in anomalies - the little stuff hiding in footnotes and fringe observations, suggesting that loopholes exist. the search for FE/OU is not needed if LoT1 holds; after all, why look for something that you can never run out of?

Why would anyone 'religiously' believe that there is never, never any exceptions to supposed laws of physics?  Do they think that the "Universe" as some sort of Omnipresent God zealously keeps this all perfect, everywhere, everytime?  If we introduced the idea of God as Creator in biology, you would hear screams of objection but somehow no one seems to complain when an EVEN GREATER miraculous direction of nature is called for by physicists insisting on 'laws'. wrong: see the challenges to LoT2. The laws of nature are constantly being challenged, but in a scientific way, not by feelings or emotions or 'because I was dreaming one night'.

I am giving talk this month about 'the power of critical thinking'.  Thinking is a process; to be effective, it should be done in a methodical way.

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #114 on: April 08, 2017, 11:53:41 AM »
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If free energy was easy, direct and widely available in nature, we wouldn't exist because the whole universe would be a sort of blazing inferno of light, heat or electric discharges.

This is a nonsense, I already explained here, that the overunity devices in general don't violate 1st law of thermodynamics - only the 2nd one. They generate energy into account of their own cooling - such a cooling has been observed many times, for example during replications of Searl device with Russians and elsewhere. The existence of breatharians indicates, that the human cells (the ATPases in their membranes being more specific) are also able to work like the overunity devices, because the ATP synthase can work like the Maxwell demon up to certain extent. Therefore the argument "ïf the overunity exist, then the Nature would already utilize it" doesn't really count here. This doesn't imply, that the free energy is easy, direct and widely available in Nature - as it's connected with subtle subquantum processes. But it can be observed with naked eye: for example at the surface of superfluid helium, which eternally fluctuates and vibrates even at the temperature of absolute zero.
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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #115 on: April 08, 2017, 02:45:11 PM »
What is there for me to argue about if your statements confirm what I've said?


"Generally"........the Lot2........... 'statistical'


And that's that.  No emotion needed, just literacy.


Thank you!

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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #116 on: April 08, 2017, 03:30:25 PM »
Zephyr: "If free energy was easy, direct and widely available in nature, we wouldn't exist because the whole universe would be a sort of blazing inferno of light, heat or electric discharges." I did not say the BOLD part; that was a quote that I disagree with.

Eightman: What is there for me to argue about if your statements confirm what I've said?
"Generally"........the Lot2........... 'statistical'
And that's that.  No emotion needed, just literacy.
Thank you!"

Since your quotes are snippets, there is no context.


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Re: Centrifugal Power Source: The Linevich Story
« Reply #117 on: October 06, 2017, 01:08:19 PM »


Tutaj to jest.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taj4VA1L_vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmtOAfrGnw0
"I am a 53 year old man who saw a demonstration of the exact technology you are described here 31 years ago when I was in the seventh grade. Phillips petroleum came to my school and demonstrated different stuff I guess to get kids interested in science. One of the things they did was make a tire spin very very fast and lifted it of its mount by only one sided of the axle, the force of the spinning tire kept it upright. He proceeded to tell us that this is done by centrifugal force and that it what is being used to do what we are about to show you. At this point he picked up a remote control handset and said I want you to watch the suitcase at the other end of the table. He starts messing with the remote and the suitcase rises from the table, a closed suitcase. He then in a very controlled way flew the suitcase around the room and landed it on the table. There was no sound, no exhaust no nothing just a closed suitcase. I can't find any evidence of this tech and most people think it doesn't exist but I know better and there were a few hundred other kids in that room. The problem with tech is you can't just put everything you create out there. Some will have economic consequences and other will have destructive consequences. I know how it feels to be isolated in you ideas and beliefs just wanted you to know, your far from alone. Peace!,James"
Many working prototypes of closed propulsion devices have been built.  Two of them are told of here, in this comments section.  The US patent office has issued perhaps 100+ patents on such devices, dating back to at least 1925.  Search patent # 7,832,297 and see cited previous patents that it improved upon.  This is the most recent patent I have found, which was in 2010.

 

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