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Title: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: Perpetual Overunity on February 18, 2016, 09:30:36 AM
Revolution-Green by Mark Danse reported about Joi Scientific months ago. Now the press has gone wild about a new self sustaining hydrogen on demand disruptive technology made from any type of water. Co-Founder of GoPro invest $5.5 million after validation by appointed technical advisor. Fortune Magazine talks about Joi Scientific how ocean water can be used for self sustaining hydrogen on demand technology. Make energy and desal ocean water as a byproduct of converting H2 & O2 into energy. By combusting hydrogen and oxygen inside a Hydrogen Technologies, Inc (zero emission boiler) 580 psi steam can be used for making electricity inside a Langson Energy Steam Generator (Nevada). Operating cost for Langson Steam Generator would be two cents per KWH. This would be a great low cost electrical source to power the submerged plasma arc Hadronic Reactor called MagneGas refinery that uses waste feedstocks to generate a gas that combust at 10,500 F.(MNGA). Here is just one scenario for a low tech energy miracle by combining Joi Scientific, HTI and the MagneGas Corp working together. Now that major funding has occurred for Joi Scientific employment opportunities at the Kennedy Space Center are available for technical people. Currently this technology is obtaining world wide patents. The CEO of Joi is Trevor Kennedy. Clues to his technology are available online. He invested ten million dollars of his own money he received by helping develop the well know computer cloud technology when he was working for Citrix Company. Trevor Kennedy is ranked as one of the top 25 computer networkers in the world. He shares that position with Bill Gates and Dell. This hydrogen technology has the greatest potential to solve many of our problems with water shortages and energy generation where you need it and when. No storage, compression or external energy sources are needed. It takes a tiny bit of energy to start the process and enough energy is released by generating hydrogen on demand that the process is self sustainable. The is the best technology I have heard about since 1990 when I became a active member of the Southern California Chapter of the American Hydrogen Association. 
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: pomodoro on February 18, 2016, 11:50:19 AM
Probably reacting aluminum with water using a weak arc or something similar.
See http://www.keelynet.com/energy/cornish.htm
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: conradelektro on February 18, 2016, 01:39:44 PM
You can look at the Patent-Application US2012058405 by filling in the number in the field "smart search" here:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/singleLineSearch?locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/singleLineSearch?locale=en_EP)

May be these direct links work:

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120308&CC=US&NR=2012058405A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20120308&CC=US&NR=2012058405A1&KC=A1)

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2012058405A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120308&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2012058405A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20120308&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP) (above the bar code is the "Download" menu item)

Titel: CAVITATION ASSISTED SONOCHEMICAL HYDROGEN PRODUCTION SYSTEM

It is not yet a patent. May be there will never be a patent granted, or only a patent for a useless detail.

But the important question is not whether there will be a patent, the issue is whether it really works as claimed at the jubilant web site http://joiscientific.com/ (http://joiscientific.com/) .

A lot of money seems to be thrown at this "invention". Let's hope it is not just hype.

At the moment investors have a serious problem. Where should one invest? Everything is in turmoil, all bets are off. Therefore one can attract investors with a cleverly presented technology. It might be possible to cleverly present something, but will it really work?

One thing is sure, Mr. Traver Kennedy is orchestrating a loud circus around the "invention" of James Kirchoff.

Time will tell,

Conrad
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: Perpetual Overunity on February 23, 2016, 08:24:42 PM
Joi Scientific has reached across the United States to help a small company called Agess Inc that is playing a big role in filling the largest lake in California called the Salton Sea with desalinated ocean water from the Sea of Cortez (Mexico). Because of the new disruptive and transformational technology of Joi Scientific that not only can desalinate ocean water and generate a self sustaining fuel made from any type of water the Salton Sea can be economically restored. Agess Inc will be presenting this fantastic news to Bruce Wilcox and the State of California Long Range Planning committee on 2/25/16. Facebook Pages to see the written proposal from Joi Scientific directed to Agess Inc is available at Agess Inc, The Salton Sea Public Group. Joi Scientific also has a Facebook Page. 
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: Perpetual Overunity on March 01, 2016, 01:12:27 AM
Very interesting links and research you posted. Thanks Conrad for your contributions to this subject. It would be interesting to forward these discoveries and patents off to Joi Scientific and see what type of comments Joi would make. Looking forward to further communication as soon as I hear anything new posted online.
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: Nink on March 01, 2016, 03:04:01 AM
Did GoPro invest 5.5M into this company or did Dean Woodman invest some money (no idea of his personal investment) with a group of other investors ?

Here is the US patent app, a simple cathode / anode and electricity in water.  Not sure how this differs from any other method of producing HHO. 
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US20120058405.pdf
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: pomodoro on March 01, 2016, 03:33:50 AM
Cheers for the patent.

I'd be very surprised if this invention ever works as stated.  Those so called 'catalytic factors' might help with the speed of the process but in no way will they decrease the energy required to break the H-O-H bond.  Sonication of the water will chew up a massive amount of power in itself , all ending up as  heat.  I pity the investors lured by this company.
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: lumen on March 01, 2016, 03:48:05 AM
I don't know how much sound would help the process, but the other day I had a thought of using micro waves with an electrode within the micro wave penetration depth, to see if the Ghz fequency (2.45Ghz I believe) which is tuned to the hydrogen atom, would have any effect in breaking the bond.

Has anyone tried this?
Title: Re: $5.5 million invested by GoPro into Joi Scientific self sustain H2 on demand.
Post by: Nink on March 01, 2016, 03:52:33 AM
Cheers for the patent.

I'd be very surprised if this invention ever works as stated.  Those so called 'catalytic factors' might help with the speed of the process but in no way will they decrease the energy required to break the H-O-H bond.  Sonication of the water will chew up a massive amount of power in itself , all ending up as  heat.  I pity the investors lured by this company.

Well if the investors have any complaints they can always go to the patent application holders address and wait for someone to collect the mail
Because this disclosure is the same as this one https://www.google.com/patents/US20100000876 that is registered to Sandbox Energy Systems
That operates out of a mail box in a UPS store http://www.arizonacorporates.com/corp/32827.html
1830 E Broadway Blvd Ste 124
UPS Tucson AZ
http://upslocations.org/ups-ups-locations/1830-e-broadway-blvd-ste-124-tucson-az-85719/