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Author Topic: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer  (Read 51134 times)

memoryman

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2016, 04:03:14 AM »
So, demonstrate.

Pirate88179

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2016, 04:22:54 AM »
Look, Bill (Pirate) .... your 400 LED video made the Free Energy Party's list of Free-Energy-Proofs !

http://www.freeenergyparty.org/Free-Energy-Proofs.html

It's too bad that your good work appears alongside a bunch of proven fakes, charlatans and false claimants.

EV Gray
Stan Meyers
Aviso
Rossi
Willis
Newman
Yildiz
Hutchison
Kapanadze
Heins

etc etc.

Oh well... blame it on "Sue"....


(I'm jealous... why didn't my "Cheese Power" make the list?  ;D   )

Gee, I am suddenly famous.  At least, I thought I was.  Seems the link has been taken down.  (404 error link not found)  I went to the main site and it too is gone.  Man, that was not even enough time to impress the ladies.

If it ever does get put back up, I think I will protest their use of my work as an example of O.U.  As anyone who knows me knows, I have never, ever claimed O.U. nor anything like it with anything I have done to date.

Also, why didn't your Cheese Power make the list?

Bill

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2016, 05:04:39 AM »
So far all claims of OU have fallen into 5 categories

1) The inventor deliberately falsified data for the purpose of misleading the public.  They Lied
2) The inventor misunderstood the power consumption and or power created by the device.   They are ignorant
3) The inventor didn't understand where the power source was coming from.  New unknown energy source (osmotic, RF scavange, Radiation...)
4) Someone stole a persons invention and presented it out of context. The original inventor clearly stated it was not OU and never professed it was OU
5) The inventor created an OU device

Anyone who falls in category 1 or 4 should never be trusted again as they have lost creditability
Anyone who falls in category 2 or 3 who openly admits they are in error should have our trust and support (They learned something)
Anyone who falls in Category 5 - No idea it has never happened

Question what category does this one fall in ?

zorrotechnology

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2016, 03:27:41 PM »
The Free Energy Party only honors Independent Lab Documentation, but began to set up categories in our search for historic or current proofs of Free Energy. In these cases we try to list them as; According to:   ..............we are fully aware that people want to stone anyone showing non conventional energy sources. War over oil is ok but to call the wind perpetual or to call the sun perpetual or to call geothermal perpetual or to call magnetism or wave power perpetual is a reason to be knocked on the ground and mocked but .....of course....Perpetual War is ok. We are sharing with you an Independent Lab documentation of a new type of electrolyzer that breaks the current paradigm, the test lab was made available to the heads of Overunity.com under confidentiality. You would think people would like the potential for progress but the fakers and scammers have grown us to be sour pusses, but let us not kill Galileo were he to come along.

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2016, 03:31:57 PM »
I understand people are really desiring answers and that it is psychologically hard to believe anything.....but this particular test lab was SURE they would be able to find something wrong....and they went over everything many many times and were simply shocked.....

memoryman

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2016, 03:54:57 PM »
So far, all you have done is talk: ranting about skeptics, oil conspiracy etc.
Saying that a particular lab could not find something makes no difference. DEMONSTRATE.

zorrotechnology

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2016, 04:04:07 PM »
I said the Independent Test Lab could not find anything wrong and they were shocked at the results.  An Independent lab documentation is a demonstration silly. The Free Energy Party is scheduling Underground Manufacture and Distribution and Overground Demonstrations at news conferences in front of Capitol buildings etc, but people will only doubt the self looping demonstrations. That is why exhaustive Independent Lab documentation is the best demonstration. Coming here has been a mistake, It seems that free energy forums are made up of energy breakthrough sour pusses who given the chance would talk any inventor of an overunity process into killing himself. lol .....I come here to report the wonderful news documented with Independent Lab third party testing and you are so used to bitch slapping hope and pissing on potential that you make it clear that supposed "Free Energy" people are the last ones we want to tell about a breakthrough. Sorry for sharing. I will leave you to your negativity. Good bye.

citfta

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2016, 04:30:47 PM »
Not everyone on this forum is against any claims of major breakthroughs.  You need to understand that every week several people come to this and other forums with nothing but claims and most have no idea what they are talking about.  And a lot of them don't even have any idea how to make any real measurements or do any real testing.  What you have claimed so far sounds much better than a lot of what we see here.   Please don't be discouraged by those asking hard questions.   They have just become hardened by all the false claims.

I believe you posted earlier that some of the members of this forum have been invited to see a demonstration.  If that is correct then I will wait until I see their opinion before making any judgement about your claims.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2016, 04:56:59 PM »
Unfortunately for you sir,  electrolysis of water has been studied by many clever people on here and it seems they can smell a rat. You want to win some election yet you hide the name of the multi million laboratory that apparently tested the instrument. Step one is to prove the test is real othewise  please stop wasting out time. It was your clever idea to have the report as the foundation of your OU announcement, so it will be a very quick fall from grace if you can't prove its originality.

zorrotechnology

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2016, 05:13:14 PM »
The name of the test lab and the inventor was provided to the owner of this forum. The Owner of a seperate test lab who now is on the Free Energy Party staff contacted the lab and cross verified the information. A US congressman was present during the actual testing. I am informing you the tech involves new discoveries that none of the rest of us are familiar with. The DOE thought there must be a sweet spot at 22,000 hz or whatever the mention was, but were informed that this was not the case at all, a new process is being used that goes beyond, pulsing and frequency sciences. We were simply sharing the tech but will continue to protect the identity of the inventor and the test lab unless you are part of our team or participating teams. What is now especially exciting is the hope for development of an equal efficiency breakthrough PEM cell by reversing the tech.

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2016, 12:15:08 AM »
@zorrotechnologims

I certainly hope your claims are valid.  I don't understand
your reasoning for not releasing a clear and completely detailed
exposition of the device. 

It seems to me that a patent upon such a device would be useless. 

Its a given that, control over any special materials that would be
needed to manufacture the device (if they are rare) is already in the
hands of the power elite.

Releasing such a device would at least make it clear to the world as to whether
those power elite are for the people or not.

If your thinking is for the free energy party to gain some kind of righteous
control, well think again.  Control is not a righteous thing.

               best wishes
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zorrotechnology

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2016, 12:58:58 AM »
Floor
I like you , you, however, are wrong about how to handle the monopolies......they may or may not have broken into the lab and stolen certain secrets but ...other secrets in construction make it near impossible and .....they dont want to do it.....Underground Manufacturing and Distribution is the answer, it is naive to assume that 130 years of monopolist technological restraint of trade is going to be undone by open Sores-ing. Open Sores was a term invented by the computer industry to distribute software with the click of a button....however, Hope Moore copying the QEG tech and selling parts to plans that dont work for 9k or Keshe Open Sourcing plans which cost 8k where both dont work is an inadvertant or intentional attack on the credibility of Free and Sustainable Energy. Lets end war over oil with an Independent Lab documented tech but get at least twenty of them , or a hundred out there selling power back up grid and publish that , if you dont mind, it is not as if we have not welcomed people on this forum to participate in Underground Manufacturing to avoid the obvious Restraint of Trade of the last 130 years

e2matrix

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2016, 07:59:29 AM »
Some web site links given in this discussion seem to lead to missing pages.   Also the freeenergyparty.org leads to a page with no other info except to say the site is 'launching' soon.   Are there any sites that have more info on the 'green machine' ?    Sounds great but I would like more info.  Is the green machine in some way related to or being built by Trenergi ?

Floor

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Re: Free Energy Party Green Machine - 3rd Party verified Overunity Electrolyzer
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2016, 07:35:51 PM »
@zorrotechnology

I work under the assumption that OU and / or free energy devices
already exist and that the powers that be are already in possession
of a variety of them.

I also think it possible that some of the "fakes out there" are there
simply to obfuscate and discourage.  I don't see any other reason why
some of these fakes have succeeded in persisting / avoiding prosecution
for so long.  May be some have had a little protection from on high ?

Are you kidding, "Stealing your secrets" would be easy for "them".

I still hold that open sourcing rapidly and accurately is the best
way to proceed.  You may of course proceed as you wish.

                   again best wishes
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