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Author Topic: Dr.Gerald Pollack's investigations into "the fourth Phase of water" and FE  (Read 3846 times)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-T7tCMUDXU&list=PLGXvKGgTcvRZ0VqdYnc2owKJ_8ZZ4OtH_

Any input on this and where this has gone since the above Ted talk would be of great benefit to the community.

Water purification ,desalination, water pumping ,or extracting electrical energy from this environmental mechanism ??

respectfully

Chet K
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will be adding some experiments in Water batteries here as well .


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here is an in-depth scientific study of the phenomena
and according to this.....  we could use something simple as a sheet of aluminum, as our hydrophilic surface.

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep06249

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I must say ....

thank you  :)

I did speak with one of the Builder /experimenters from a water battery thread last night ..was looking to understand his Path in this and see where it could go ,oddly he was unaware of Pollack's work [not any more ...] even tho it would seem he is on Pollack's Path ??

Soo
 extracting energy from this Charge preference in the Exclusion Zone ..seeing as this Zone Harvests and stores radiant energy when given some Light source................

Honestly
Now I'm bouncing off the walls it would seem a dozen paths and threads could or should be started here on this
it would also seem that Water holds more mysteries than we could imagine...Muscles ?? Cells ?? heart assist ??
exclusion filter ?? stores radiant energy ?? dare I say "Memory " ??? etc etc


I will follow your lead ...

An experiment sounds very good,

besides you got me all charged up yesterday in the geet thread with one of your observations ...and we're seeing about that today ..another build which desperately needs attention.

and I did commit to a _Gravitational Field_ Investigation/ Build with an FE perspective yesterday [Open source of course

HELP !!

@SmOKY To be perfectly clear we don't do business or Patents Or any other poisons or mouse traps to this open source theme.


just wanted to make that clear ,also we go out of OUR way to make sure things are very hard to patent or suppress
so we are very careful with associations .

thank you for your comments.
respectfully

Chet



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i don't know if this is relevant or not, but while I was researching this,
there was a youtube video that was flagged.
by user:  IBpointless2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDusf5sjb2M

This seemed so entirely ridiculous that I had to try it, and...
low and behold, tap water does seem to possess an electrical charge separation, when you put foil in it.
at first, there is in the 2-3 hundred millivolt range (short current 0.5 microamps+/-)
3 cups in series I was able to achieve 0.4V potential, for a short time.
it seemed the charge was going away, even when I was not taking measurements,.... hmm
perhaps it was balancing out between the cups. so I let it sit for a long time. 3 cups in series, with the ends shorted out with a small wire, as suggested in the video.

when I returned to measure again, the charge difference was almost entirely gone from the terminals.
HOWEVER::
 there was approx. 0.5V potential, to ANY of the 3 cups of water, obtainable in the CENTER of the cup!!!

I remembered what Dr Pollack had said about the E-Zone.
and I made an ad-lib center tap configuration that placed all 3 cups in parallel.
 (while the outer terminals were still shorted in series)
I was able to obtain 0.5V and up to 50 milliamps short current, which appeared to be sustainable.
the precise location in the cup to place the + terminal was asymmetrical, im assuming because of the construction.
I plan to make a new test-bed with equal area foil plates, and try to center the charge separation within the cup.

also, I had an alternative theory, if this turns out NOT to be EZ water.
 these measurements were made using a digital DC meter
which does not pick up any (A/C) high freq. radiation that foil likes to reflect.
this could be simply picking up peak voltages from a certain bandwidth related to the distances between the foil plates.
using water to store the charge.

in either case, this simple design seems to be a viable power source, if you don't mind a bunch of cups of water laying around somewhere....





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 extracting energy from this Charge preference in the Exclusion Zone ..seeing as this Zone Harvests and stores radiant energy when given some Light source................



As Dr. Pollack pointed out several times, the term "light source" refers to energy beyond the human spectrum of visible light.
energy on both ends of the spectrum that emanates naturally from mass.
it doesn't necessarily need a "light source". Everything emits light of some frequency. That's why we can see colors.
information in the IR spectrum interferes with light reflecting off the object and gives us the image of color.

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Yes I did hear and read this and I suppose My mind went "Solar" and started down the "What if" road..
This is mind boggling to me and I am already playing at a handicap when it comes to all things "mind"

one thing which jumped out in another interview was the inability to model these things on a computer program

the data has yet to be collated and the science is still in its infancy ! [at least in public ,quite certain wheel barrels full of research money are being thrown at this in all effected fields .

I have been trying to listen to any Recent Broadcasts or interviews and here is a series I found which is Quite recent [1 week ??]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xrb3z7Giyg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBXSG25-ioI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJDpTVtp8jE

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actually, this science has been studied in government labs for nearly a century, its' just not often talked about.

the official representation of "structured water" comes in the terminology Ice^#
some categories have sub-categories within,
normal ice is Ice1
there are at least 21 forms of Ice1 known to naturally occur, and they are designated each with a letter.
freezer ice you are used to, is Ice1h
the Hexagonal crystalline structure, makes "h" a proper fit.
subsequently, Ice1 with a Cubic crystalline structure is denoted as Ice1c
the other 19 forms of Ice1 exist in an amorphous crystalline structure that varies over a range of temperatures.

studies go on to describe Ice2, Ice3 and so on,..
I believe what we are examining here, is known to the scientific community as Ice16
I would begin a search there.
I don't have time to go too deep down this road at the moment, but I hope this helps.

the method of energy exchange is through electrical molecular activity, not through temperature change,,
but the ordering, or structuring of the water molecule is the same.

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Re: Dr.Gerald Pollack's investigations into "the fourth Phase of water" and FE
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2016, 10:43:02 PM »
here is a little clip I made showing this exclusion zone
[note: removing the water from this zone can affect the structuring,
 disturbances, especially those that result in heating, can cause it to revert back to normal density water]


https://youtu.be/hlJJfNzq6cE

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Water just went Quantum {tunneling attribute].... in a Fourth State

http://www.gizmag.com/fourth-state-of-water/42999/?li_source=LI&li_medium=default-widget

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