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Just..Sayin..

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The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« on: January 15, 2016, 02:31:21 AM »
I recently read an excellent comment by Smoky2 that makes a lot of sense and may provide some substantial insight on how to achieve success with building an OU self oscillating transformer. The most attractive of all free energy devices, think of Floyd Sweet's device, and also Steven Mark's TPU.

Floyd Sweet first noticed the 'self oscillating' effect in a conventional transformer that continued to run after he had turned it off. I think Floyd made the classic mistake at the time, he departed from the successful device he already had in his hot little hands and moved onto to something entirely different, namely a conditioned Barium magnet with a set of cross wound coils that operated in a entirely different manner and wound up being very hard to understand and also perfect. There was nothing wrong with the effect he was already seeing. He should have measured and documented all the different parameters and tried to perfect that very simple device rather than moving onto something exotic that never did go anywhere.

Nikola Tesla demonstrated the exponential free energy effects of self oscillation when he attached a small oscillating device to a structural beam in a warehouse in the New York research facility he occupied before moving to Colorado Springs. The device set up a resonance in the molecular structure of the steel beam that began to build until the entire building started to shake. Apparently the whole neighborhood became alarmed at what was taking place and Tesla had to pick up a hammer and smash the device before the building was destroyed. One can also think of the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge due to effects of resonance. A gust of wind caused it to begin to oscillate and it picked up momentum until it broke. Free energy from resonance.

Now please read Smoky's comment that has been taken from this page.... http://overunity.com/9749/aether-vortex-energy-converter-avec-device-full-disclosure/msg469717/#msg469717

(Smoky2)

I'll try to relay this from a different perspective...

You have an inductor, a piece of iron, or a ceramic semiconductor torroid, a pencil, whatever...

with no inducing field, all the atoms are randomly pointing in any direction, their magnetic moments are everywhere, canceling each other out
there is no detectable magnetic field outside the material.

when we bring a magnetic field close to the material, the field domains line up opposing that field.
mostly in the same direction.
Now, this takes time,... to turn them, so from a "neutral" point, it takes time X to orient the atoms against the inducing field.
(this is approx. 1/4 the self-resonant freq, but follow)

We now alternate the inducing field to the opposite direction, causing the atoms in the inductor to flip the other way.
  This takes time.
How much time? well, if you don't take a break between flipping one way to the other (because to do so would add +1/4 f)
It takes exactly 1/2 of the self-resonant freq.

So,. if you change the inducing magnetic field, at a frequency exactly twice that if the time it takes for the poles to flip from one direction to the other...
   you effectively flip poles at the maximum frequency the inductor can flip at.
Now, if we flip at a speed slower than that, the magnetic field domains revert to the "neutral state", and have to be brought back to the oriented state.
This causes a loss in energy, due to reluctance.
If you flip the field at a speed faster than that, you do not get full induction within the core, reluctive losses are much greater.

Now, some of you that have been paying attention have noticed by now that there is a difference in the self-resonant freq. and the max freq. posted on the data sheet.
 (good job if that's you!!)

There are some tiny differences in the inductor material, try as we may to perfect it, That causes the "perfect balance" in magnetic flux that we desire,
to vary slightly from the fastest possible that we can flip the field.

In a non-superconductor material, this frequency is less than the maximum.
In a true superconductor, the self-resonant frequency of an inductor is the same as its' maximum frequency.

::::For the language barrier --  those who don't understand what I mean when I talk about the frequency of the inductor
It is a factor of the response time of the inductor, meaning how many times the field domains flip from one pole to the other and back again, per second (Hz).
This corresponds exactly to both the input frequency and the output of any secondary coil(s).
This is affected by the diameter of the wire, length of the wire, number of coils, diameter(s) of coiling, and to some degree, distance from the inductor.

What it means for a system to be "resonant", is that the frequencies are coherent with one another.
They do not disrupt each others patterns.

This can be frequencies that are the same.
Frequencies that are divisible, or multiples of one another.
or frequencies that meet as certain corresponding "nodes",
      for instance 1/4th or 1/2 nodes, or nodes that may only meet once every 133 cycles.....
But what happens at these nodes is that the amplitudes of the signals are increased, not just for one, but both or all of the combining signals.
This is not just an additive quantity, but can be exponential at reoccurring intervals.

you notice the difference when you are operating in a resonant mode, because the coil and the inductor will "ring" at these resonant frequencies.
increase in amplitude. voltage /or current spikes depending on the situation. In electronics we generally treat this as a problem.
it blows out capacitors, burns resistors and diodes, fries traces on our circuit boards..
There are MANY MANY solutions to these problems. Look at the base of a radio broadcast antanae, theres a million dollar "solution" right there at the bottom.

If a resonant frequency is in the audible spectrum, you may actually hear an increase in the sound coming out of the inductor.
if you scope it, you see an increase in amplitudes

Here's your first piece of "garbage" for the day.

Take an inductor of your choice, and look at the manufacturers data sheet, find the self-resonant frequency
and engineer two coils around it to a coherent frequency of that.

Then send the self-resonant frequency though one of the coils, using a signal generator
 and take a scope image of the other.
Now compare this image to that of other frequencies NOT in the self-resonant mode.

Now you have a visual representation of the inductive losses that are present in ALL operating modes outside the resonance of the circuit. (end of Smoky's comment) See the link above for another explanation he also offered.

This can not be that difficult for some of you who have the knowledge of the formulas and the test equipment in your labs.

I suspect that Floyd Sweet's transformer developed a short in one of the windings, or perhaps even two of them, which provided the ideal conditions for self oscillation and free energy. Just the right amount of inductance / reactance that created a sweet spot.

Try to grasp the fact that we have always produced free energy from magnetic fields. The torque supplied to the shaft of the generator is not the energy, or the electromotive force that comes out of the generator. The supplied magnetic field, be it permanent or electromagnetic, provides the electrons that are induced to flow in the output coils. The torque that is supplied to the shaft, is consumed or used up by, the fight between the supplied field and the induced field through the effects of Lenz's law, back EMF. It may be just a matter of dumping the collapsing field into the right capacitor and properly tuned coils.

I do not have the technical/mathematical background to do the computations/measurements and the experiments, but I do grasp the fact that this should not be that hard for some of you to figure out. And if you do figure it out, please share it here immediately, time is short and the world is falling apart.

Any transformer should suffice. It's a matter of coming up with the right capacitance to match just the right amount of inductance and reactance..... Steven Mark's commented somewhere after he had sold out... that their experiments with rare earth magnets were resulting in extremely high outputs. Probably just a primary and a secondary with the right amount of turns and wire gauges to compliment one another, and then the right capacitor to keep it going.

I expect that Floyd Sweet witnessed the phenomena on a 400 or 600 Volt step down power transformer.





 

« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 01:54:18 PM by Just..Sayin.. »

ayeaye

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 05:22:37 PM »
The torque supplied to the shaft of the generator is not the energy, or the electromotive force that comes out of the generator.
Yes this may be right, partly right that is, but there is Lenz law. Unless you overcome that, there is no use of any additional effects you may create.

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 05:44:53 PM »
Yes this may be right, partly right that is, but there is Lenz law. Unless you overcome that, there is no use of any additional effects you may create.

Back EMF was not a problem for Sweet's permanent magnet device or for the transformer that kept oscillating after he pulled the disconnect.  Back EMF was not a problem in Steven Mark's TPU's... The Kapandaze devices overcome back EMF, all be it at a much higher frequencies.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2016, 08:46:36 PM by Just..Sayin.. »

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2016, 12:04:02 AM »

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 12:19:26 AM »
Have a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5se4LZigM

Congratulations Avalon... it appears as though you have done it! Have looked up your other videos and see you have some background in this... A hearty congratulations and big thanks to Smoky2 for the inspiration of this build.

Nice name Avolon....  ferroresonance

Can someone else now figure this out who would be willing to share?


Dog-One

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2016, 01:28:55 AM »
Have a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5se4LZigM

Yes Avalon, good job!

Do you use any limiters to prevent a runaway condition or does your device stabilize itself?

Watching your other video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYLVyswgeQ

It sure looks a lot like what Akula was demonstrating too.

ayeaye

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2016, 03:12:34 PM »
Ok, what frequency, what transformer? Unless all information is provided, and the experiment is not repeatable, it has no value.

I think resonance in the magnetic core providing overunity, is a possibility, no need to convince me in this. I were happy to repeat this experiment, if i could obtain the right transformer, use the right frequency, and whatever else is necessary, but i cannot as long as i don't know. Theoretically deriving it requires too complex mathematics i think, calculating all the movement of the dipoles, and forces between them.

Paul-R

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2016, 03:22:21 PM »
... the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge due to effects of resonance. A gust of wind caused it to begin to oscillate and it picked up momentum until it broke. Free energy from resonance.
I don't think this is true.

The energy comes from the kinetic energy of the wind. The reason why the bridge broke is because it was, indeed, a tuned mechanical tank circuit, and as a result, a very high proportion of the energy available was focussed on the bridge, which could not cope.

ayeaye

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2016, 04:17:36 PM »
I don't think this is true.

The energy comes from the kinetic energy of the wind. The reason why the bridge broke is because it was, indeed, a tuned mechanical tank circuit, and as a result, a very high proportion of the energy available was focussed on the bridge, which could not cope.

Your explanation is like, there is some kind of possibility, so i stick to that. But the bridge is not a tank circuit, it has plenty of force to hold it in place. So such extensive swinging takes a lot of power all the time, may well be much more than the wind can provide.

Paul-R

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2016, 05:08:35 PM »
But the bridge is not a tank circuit, it has plenty of force to hold it in place. So such extensive swinging takes a lot of power all the time, may well be much more than the wind can provide.
No, I thibnk you are wrong here.

The bridge alone is not a tank circuit but the bridge + oscillating wind is a tank circuit.

If the natural frequency of oscillation of the bridge = frequency of oscillation of the gusting wind, then you have resonance.

The rate at which energy is potentially available ( = power) in the flow of gusting wind is huge.

Reminiscent of Tesla's earthquake machine and his method of splitting the earth into two halves.

Where is TK when you want him?

e2matrix

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2016, 05:46:38 PM »
Have a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j5se4LZigM


Why not show what's in the box??   Interesting that the next video that comes up with your name is "Ten ways to Prank".   I can think of an easy way to do exactly what you have shown with a 120v relay, an inverter and battery in the box.   If you really have something of interest lets have some details of the circuit.   

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2016, 06:56:12 PM »
Avalon, I believe the Part 2 video you have planned will be to eliminate the house current you have used to provide the 60 cycle to the transformer. Is this correct?

Avalon I appeal to you to immediately release the info on the transformer you have built so that people can begin building this all over the world. Great destruction and chaos is about to hit the earth and these power systems are needed quickly.

If you want to make money off of what God has quickened you to understand, why don't you start building devices for others. There will soon be a global economic collapse anyway, and a patent is going to be of no use to you, nor will money. The NWO will soon bring in the mark of the beast.

Avalon please do the right thing... perhaps God will bless you and help you make it through the Great Tribulation that is now upon us all. Fortune and Fame will not be able to do a thing for you....

Please also know that the powers that be monitor this forum and others... it is not a problem for them to find you and quickly put an end to your plans.

Please see http://revelation12.ca we do not have much time left.

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2016, 07:17:55 PM »
No, I thibnk you are wrong here.

The bridge alone is not a tank circuit but the bridge + oscillating wind is a tank circuit.

If the natural frequency of oscillation of the bridge = frequency of oscillation of the gusting wind, then you have resonance.

The rate at which energy is potentially available ( = power) in the flow of gusting wind is huge.

Reminiscent of Tesla's earthquake machine and his method of splitting the earth into two halves.

Where is TK when you want him?

Let's try this again, because apparently some of you still don't get it...

Go pick up a wind instrument, like a flute or recorder, something with a wooden reed.
and Blow into it.
now depending on the length of the tube, and which holes you plug into, the tube will resonate at specific frequencies.

But what happens to the Reed??
the reed is always the same length
it always resonates at the same frequency, which gives the instrument its' particular "tone".

now, if you blow erratically, pulse your breath, etc. speed up, slow down...
you may have some effects on the vibration, but not its frequency...
all it takes is tiny impulses, at just the right moments, or steady winds for a long enough period of time.
and the resonations will build up stronger and stronger with each oscillation.

It's exactly the same thing that happens up a radio tower when we try to broadcast.
The tower can actually blow itself up, were we not to use expensive energy wasting equipment to prevent this from happening.

We now do a similar thing to the Bridge, by adding wind-disruptors on the under-side.

Think of tapping on a flywheel, tiny taps, tiny taps,.. over time the flywheel will have a great momentum, much more than the addition of the taps. Some mistake this as "OU", but momentum is not energy, as many find out when they try to do something with it.

Nor is the waveform built-up in the bridge, simply a matter of energy from the wind.

think: length of bridge, wind speed, angle of wind.

you can do it with a blade of grass to your lips.

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2016, 08:06:12 PM »


I am building a few different new devices. The one in the video is only capable of 250W max. A smaller (and very compact) 50W device and a larger 2kW+ one. A full-blown stand-alone generator unit is in the pipeline as well. I am planning to show the guts in one of the follow up videos.

Now then, back to your appeal. Get a grip, man. I posted one small video on YouTube and you are ready to pin world's problems on me.
I am not going to release anything until I can demonstrate and prove definitively the source of energy. It is unlikely to happen soon. Releasing an unfinished product is counter-productive and not going to help at all. They say that even 9 pregnant women can't give a birth to a child in 1 month. I tend to agree and so will just carry on.

Finally, for the record:

1/ it's not a fake. I am not hiding any batteries etc.
2/ At this stage I am not making any claims regarding the source of energy.
3/ I am not going to be involved in further discussions regarding the release of the device or its design.

~A

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Re: The Secret To The Self Oscillating Transformer
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2016, 08:15:08 PM »
Thank you for update Avalon.

Looking forward to part 2.