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Author Topic: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?  (Read 50073 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #75 on: December 03, 2015, 01:54:28 PM »
More on SunVault:

http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/displayfilinginfo.aspx?FilingID=11028724-7849-135153&type=sect&TabIndex=2&companyid=880764&ppu=%252fdefault.aspx%253fcik%253d1547716

<<< These consolidated financial statements have been prepared on a going concern basis, which implies the Company will continue to realize its assets and discharge its liabilities in the normal course of business. The continuation of the Company as a going concern is dependent upon the continued financial support from its shareholders, the ability of the Company to obtain necessary equity financing to continue operations, and the attainment of profitable operations. As at September 30, 2015, the Company has a working capital deficiency of $3,371,682 and has accumulated losses of $7,928,731 since inception. These factors raise substantial doubt regarding the Company's ability to continue as a going concern. These consolidated financial statements do not include any adjustments to the recoverability and classification of recorded asset amounts and classification of liabilities that might be necessary should the Company be unable to continue as a going concern.>>>

Don't hold your breath for an "electric supercar" to become available by March 31st, 2016 that makes use of RMS's yet-to-be-proven battery storage cells or supercapacitors.

For those that want to register:

Sunvault Energy: Late Filings Aren't The Only Problems

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3245496-sunvault-energy-late-filings-arent-the-only-problems?page=1

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2015, 02:44:17 PM »
HI MICROMLOW I DO NOT HAVE TO HIDE MY IDENTITY.
THIS WHEN I AM HAPPY..


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2015, 02:45:50 PM »
NOW YOU DO NOT WANT TO PISS ME OFF.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2015, 03:38:55 PM »
NOW YOU DO NOT WANT TO PISS ME OFF.

Dude
Even our Roo's would have that bloke for breakfast.

meet Roger the Roo.


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2015, 03:50:06 PM »
YOU have put me off kangaroo stake  now, i did not know they
are on steroids now.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2015, 03:50:06 PM »
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #80 on: December 03, 2015, 03:58:11 PM »

All the aggro aside,Australia really is the best place on earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4NuX0qWuY

I grew up in Australia but as an adult I have moved around the world.  Australians are an extremely resourceful culture. They are not afraid to try new things, nor are they afraid of failure. As a result Australians are some of the most innovative people in the world.

One of the challenges Australians have on the world stage is in relation to formal education. The focus in Australia on "western education" is not at the same level in comparison to  Europe (UK, Germany, Sweden) and North America (US, Canada). There is only one University from Australia in the top 50 world rankings. The University of Melbourne ranks in at 33 and a large percentage of the students attending are from overseas.

I actually do not believe this is a bad thing. The western education system certainly provides an environment for learning but my perception is they are also focused on telling people what they can't do versus "just give it a go" and try.   I struggled assimilating into other cultures as a result of this. In Australia making mistakes or trying something that does not work is not perceived as a failure, it is simply a lesson learned.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2015, 04:05:13 PM »
YOU have put me off kangaroo stake  now, i did not know they
are on steroids now.

Lol

Roger the Roo is over 2 meters tall,and weighs in at over 20 stone-127Kgs.
most of the older bucks are muscle bound.
Roger live on a reserve in Alice Springs.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2015, 04:05:13 PM »
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Offline minnie

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2015, 06:49:05 PM »



   MileHigh, nearly everything on this forum comes under the "you must be joking"
sort of category. There's no need to address people with the nasty sort of tone
that you seem to be using a lot these days. For me it's a bit of entertainment and
I think that view is taken by many others. Kinetic energy rules!

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #83 on: December 03, 2015, 08:40:46 PM »
   MileHigh, nearly everything on this forum comes under the "you must be joking"
sort of category. There's no need to address people with the nasty sort of tone
that you seem to be using a lot these days. For me it's a bit of entertainment and
I think that view is taken by many others. Kinetic energy rules!

When you get attacked for pointing out a gross gross error by somebody that is supposed to be the technical expert for a struggling little company in financial dire straights you are going to defend yourself.  Plus I got threatened, and that's real.  It's wise to question things and to question people's motives.  In the real world as opposed to the forums RMS's "error" would be quickly dealt with.  I am not a sheeple and I can clearly distinguish right from wrong.  There has been more nasty tone directed at me than me defending myself back.

As of right now there is no evidence of a special battery that outperforms a lithium-ion battery and there are no credible measurements of the value of the graphene-based supercapacitors that I am aware of.  There is just unsubstantiated talk.

Some choice quotes from my links.  Welcome to the real world:

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Forget it, it’s a complete scam! The claims don’t even make sense: a hydrogen generator on board – presumably run by electricity – used to split water to produce hydrogen which in turn will be used in a fuel cell to produce electricity to run the car!

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So. This company has come up with some excellent graphene batteries. How much would YOU pay to be the first to benefit from this awesome breakthrough? But wait! They also have developed a fool cell with onboard electrolyzation! NOW how much would you pay?
 But wait! There’s more! They have also designed a SUPERCARRRRRRRRRR! That’s right, a Supercar! Incorporating All Three of these technologies that seem to have appeared out of thin air!
 NOW how much would you pay???
 Hmmmmm???

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But as long as you have this amazing graphene battery splitting water in the tank to produce hydrogen, you can use that hydrogen to charge the battery and the car will run forever!  Right?
I agree this is a scam that ties the classic dream of a car that runs on water to the classic dream of a car that uses a magical 5-minute-to-charge battery all in a way that makes no physical sense.

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“The fuel cell will be powered by an on demand Hydrogen generation unit built into the car and will only require water.”
So then, this is just another perpetual motion scam.
An on-demand hydrogen generator would require far more energy to power than it would provide in hydrogen fuel. If they’re claiming this would actually be practical, then it’s a perpetual motion claim.

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The article claims this car performs “on demand Hydrogen generation”. That would not be powered by plugging it in. “On demand” means it’s generated as needed while the car is driving down the road. As has been said, the only way to do that, in the vehicle as described, is to use electricity to generate hydrogen, which of course is then oxidized to produce a lot less electricity than it took to generate the hydrogen. There is no rational reason to do that; it would require expensive equipment which would do nothing but waste energy.
It’s a scam, period.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #84 on: December 03, 2015, 08:46:30 PM »
You clearly threatened me like some jackass chav that wants to arrange a physical fight after a Facebook dispute.  Putting up your address is just a feint to try to make yourself look innocent after the fact.  Your address is out there already because you are a public Internet marketing consultant, so it's a meaningless gesture.

Your behaviour clearly demonstrates why I choose to be anonymous, Brad chooses to be anonymous, and 99.5% of the rest of the users on this forum choose to be anonymous.  We don't want the risk of having to deal with people like you in real life.
Er... I 'm connected with Brad on FB & Skype... we know his name is Brad... umm. I'm guessing the reason you are anonymous is so you can be an offensive l without repercussions. I did not attack you or threaten anyone can read the thread if they are bored out the brain and see that. You obviously don't get it. I care too much that's my problem.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2015, 08:54:44 PM »
Er... I 'm connected with Brad on FB & Skype... we know his name is Brad... umm

Absolutely brilliant.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2015, 09:34:23 PM »
Er... I 'm connected with Brad on FB & Skype... we know his name is Brad... umm. I'm guessing the reason you are anonymous is so you can be an offensive l without repercussions. I did not attack you or threaten anyone can read the thread if they are bored out the brain and see that. You obviously don't get it. I care too much that's my problem.

You threatened me and you are simply a poseur.  Your head would implode if you dared to be honest with yourself and with the people around here.  You "can't comment" on RMS's ridiculous "mistake" my ass.  It must be stressful and fatiguing to be "on" all the time and grind away at your psyche to be "in character" all the time.  Right mate?

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2015, 10:02:54 PM »



   MileHigh, both yourself and RMS. have both demonstrated an amount of
naivety on one aspect of this device-but I'm leaving that aside.
   For me the main plus point of the whole thing is that if it works to
fairly average efficiency is that the materials used are both safe and
readily available.


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #89 on: December 03, 2015, 10:20:55 PM »
I only commented on the energy claims for the device which are absolutely false.  When what amounts to a "chief technical officer" for a battery company makes a clip where he can't even measure the energy capacity of one of his own batteries, it's a serious problem that merits being pointed out.  The claims are grossly exaggerated, and that can easily influence people that don't know any better, as is amply shown in the YouTube comments.  The false claims could also influence people with money to invest, which is unethical.  That merits some strong language, but the language was never abusive, which is just a false characterization by you know who.

You cannot ignore these points.  Your "main point" is a secondary point.  If the batteries can indeed be manufactured with more benign materials that is a good thing.  The problem is that this tiny company from what I can gather is far away from any manufacturing phase.  It takes a lot of money to do that, and over say the past five years there may have been hundreds of press releases about "breakthrough battery technology" that never saw the light of day.  If they actually had something that was really good, perhaps simply licensing it to a major battery manufacturer would be a viable way of bringing it to market.

All that being said, the clip is truly awful and makes totally false claims.  Does the truth not mean anything anymore?  Are we all just a bunch of sheeple?

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