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Author Topic: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!  (Read 25846 times)

Offline MIdone

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2015, 03:47:42 AM »
Hi Tom,
There was no mention of the Clem Engine in any of those newsletters I have.  I was also getting another one at that same time from Don Kelly, "S.E.A.", but no mention of it in there either. 
The internet kind of took over all of that stuff around the mid 1990's. 
If you try the Yahoo search engine you can usually get some different results than Google.

If you search, 'Clem engine pictures'; even your stuff comes up:
"https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrBT.IRAwhWeakAoNNXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyODRjcmJxBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzNDFfMQRzZWMDc2M-?p=Clem+Engine&fr=moz35#id=77&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fkeelynet.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F05%2Fcar5hp.jpg%3Fw%3D400%26h%3D529&action=close"

I kept some of those old newsletters for referencing, and/or evidence.

The CEACU boys made flat out claims of having an over-unity centrifugal fluid machine.
So I kept an open mind; ...ok, ...maybe, ...lets see it. 

They couldn't deliver on their claims, tried to stall wanting more financing, then bugged out.

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I think most people who read these forums are keeping an open mind and willing to listen, but wise enough to question before they jump on the boat and say 'yep' you got it! 
It's obvious that you are putting a lot of time and hard work into your ideas, and openly showing everyone.  I can appreciate that.
I'm guessing that you want to open source your project on here to get feedback; right?

Well; I think you will probably be the first to attempt an over-unity device using a hydraulic motor in the way you are suggesting. -using vacuum force to suck a fluid through a motor, from a reservoir, to exit the rotor rim. 
You may want to find out what the efficiency ratings are for the motor you bought, using the flows and pressures across it you have in mind.
Some hydraulic motors won't even turn unless they have a pressure drop of a couple hundred pounds across them.

Might it be a good idea to see how the motor would work first, with a pump trying to suck fluid through it; and see what kind of pressure drop you can get across it?

A pure vacuum is 0 psi.-(it doesn't get lower than that.)  Atmospheric pressure at sea level is 14.7 psi.
You posted an illustration that doesn't make sense to me; or is it a mistake?
In it, you have a draw at the bottom of 1gpm @ -100psi.
How can anything be at -100psi?  I don't understand. 
If a pressure gauge is calibrated to '0' at atmospheric pressure, it could only drop to -14.7 in a pure vacuum.  Outer space is the closest you can get to that.
In the upper rotor portion you have it throwing out 100gpm @ 1psi.  Where did the additional 99 gallons come from, when you only have 1 gallon coming in?

If it's dribbling out at the rotor rim at 1psi, it would still have the rotational velocity of the rotor when it dropped out.  -Would that just be lost?
I'm not attacking you; these are just things that crossed my mind as I read about your idea.

Accelerating masses with centrifugal forces, while at the same time trying do work with the accelerating masses, can be difficult. ???

The Clem Engine claims are a mystery from the stories I can find.  People love a mystery, and can build it into anything without the facts.

What's on the internet, indicates that it is turning by the force of high pressure jets at the rim and a spiral channel to the rim.
Vegetable oil is a key to its operation. 
In this video at about 18 seconds in, it mentions a 7 stage pump that drives the rotor.
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OzcUp7i5sk"

I'm my mind this sounds more like a CEACU.

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2015, 04:15:08 AM »
Hi Midone,

Yes I understand what you're saying about the basic flow and my simple formula.

I will explain it in a better way:

If the rotating drum has 8-1/2 rim jets@100gpm and the input fluid has only 1-1/2 to pull fluid into the drum.

What takes place is flow will have to increase in flow speed going into the center to equal the same amount of 100gpm coming out.

Like all fluids, to increase flow from a small pipe you would have to increase pressure.

As the rotation is spinning what really is happening is vacuum of high pressure is pulling fluid into the rotating drum I call -psi. would have the same effect if I force high pressure into the drum.

Instead of pushing fluid, the drum pulls the fluid.

If the design is correct, this means that if the rotating drum throws outward 100gpm, it would have to replace it with 100gpm input.
The inertia is where the magic happens due to the centrifugal pump design.

Tom


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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2015, 03:30:24 PM »
Hi Tom,
Thanks for responding to my questions.  I was just trying to follow a drop of fluid through the cycle of your machine concept.

Yes; whirling a smaller mass around in a horizontal circle to suspend a larger vertical one; is fun and fires the inventive mind!

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So in real life mechanics, you would expect maybe 100gpm flowing through the device.

If you had 3 pressure gauges all calibrated to read ‘0’ at atmospheric pressure;
-and placed one at the rim, #1
-one at the hub, where the fluid exits your hydraulic motor, #2
-and one at the intake of your hydraulic motor; #3
what might you expect them to read while it’s operating?

You mentioned 1psi at the rim. -so that would be the reading on pressure gauge #1.
The other two pressure gauge readings I think would be the important ones to get an idea of what might happen with the hydraulic motor.
#2 & #3

Thanks again for sharing your work.

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2015, 03:47:47 PM »
Hi Midone,

Yes that would be a interesting test, I will need to get some gauges and one have a vacuum side also.

Tom


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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2015, 05:35:57 PM »
Might I also suggest a few heat sensors.

If your heat cycle works similar to what I calculated for SCREWD you might want to know those values to go along with your pressure changes.

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2015, 05:35:57 PM »
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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2015, 03:39:21 PM »
Hello ,

long time ago I had contact to Alan Cresswell in Birmingham. He published his ideas of ether conversion on his website
"The Grand Unified Theory" which I archived. Today Alan has passed away and his website is gone even the web-archive does´nt have it anymore

Please find attached an excerpt of this website which deals with this topic

Regards

Kator01

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2015, 01:24:24 PM »
Hi all,

I have updates and will soon post what I have.

Many question come up on vacuum pressure on water pumps, I fully understand the physics behind it. Clearly most people don't realizes I'm dealing with hydraulics and not water.

I'm going to explain the difference, by now most should already know.

The key point to this clem engine build is created a effect due to inertia and centrifugal forces, without these effect it would be a waste to even trying.

I remove some videos and thought it would be best just to build it and put up the finished unit, due to the fact many people love to steal those that put their own time and money into these projects as their own.

Not that it will or will not work, but because others who can't be trusted will claim it's their own ideas.

I have a design and it will be a great one, but this calls for special skills that I have to use in foam casting a complete cone design that is very complex later on.

I will have to test some simple design before going to that complex one.

With all the other clem engine experimental builds, this seems to be it if I can create these effects I explained.

Tom

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2015, 02:30:43 PM »
Hi All,

Sometime I wonder what if I get over unity on this Clem's engine Project, who would not want this information out?

I still believe that we needs to be open source due to the fact governments want control and energy is where they have it.

Free energy means free electricity, transportation, water and even food. This is why it's so important to open source any real free energy design.

Money is created to control us all, those with the most gets the most out of life, but those that have little get nothing in return.

Free energy gives us all equal power where government can't force their rule on us any longer.

Free energy means freedom to all.

Another reason people need to realize that governments will kill anyone who stops their control on us.

This is the main clem engine hydraulic motor shaft design.

Tom

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2015, 03:17:04 PM »
the secret to the clem engine is the AIR that is TRAPED in the vegetable
oil REACHES A SUPER CRITICAL PRESSURE WHEN THE OIL IS FORCE
PUMPED. SO TO INCREASE FURTHER THE EFFICIENCY OF THIS MACHINE
IS TO INTRODUCE COMPRESS AIR INTO THE VEGETABLE OIL..
 

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2015, 03:31:51 PM »
"the secret to the clem engine is the AIR that is TRAPED in the vegetable
oil REACHES A SUPER CRITICAL PRESSURE WHEN THE OIL IS FORCE
PUMPED. SO TO INCREASE FURTHER THE EFFICIENCY OF THIS MACHINE
IS TO INTRODUCE COMPRESS AIR INTO THE VEGETABLE OIL.."

That is your opinion seychelles,

The problem with this is low pump pressure, hydraulics pressure will drop due to air bubbles in the system. For cooking oil to explode it needs pressure to create enough heat like a diesel engine. Air bubbles won't do the job.

Nobody has create a clem engine that believe in this theory, not even me. That was my past theory also, could not get enough pressure due to air bubble in the lines.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree.

Tom




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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2015, 08:20:31 PM »
Hi All,

Been busy working but I did get my slip roll roller in a few days ago to start the Clem engine cone design.

I will be making the blades that feed fluid upward to the centrifugal turbine, the turbine creates a vacuum that should cause a implosion effect.


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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2015, 12:14:26 AM »
Hi All,

I added a simple video to show how I made this 16 gauge sheet metal cone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsGk_IiWq4M

Tom

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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2015, 12:26:51 AM »
Hi All,

I found this video, boy looks like some of the stuff I built.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilStbRJZTu0

Tom


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Re: Clem Engine was the real deal, I now know how it works and can prove it!
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2015, 09:34:09 AM »
I have a lathe at the Shop that I program every week, I am looking into the Clem engine as good way to at uneven and jolt-like drive mechanism for a flywheel.





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