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franco malgarini

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2015, 06:50:10 PM »
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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2015, 01:59:22 PM »
"But profitis, how can the same vacuum be the same
inside earth and the same in the galaxy and the same
in the edge of the universe and the same in the “black
hole” horizon? IF all vacuum was the same,  all
matter would be the same."

All matter is comprised of the same thing,dipoles of quanta.it was apophasis pointed this out nicely in the other thread.


" WOW! You just made me
realized a thing about LIGHT, light is not the same
from billions of years ago...the light that we see with
our telescopes is “dirty light” not pure. I love the
thinking profitis, don't you? This means that the light
that we see is not 100% proof of a “big bang”"


The giant bang is just a theory. movement of matter/light/and debris in the universe indicate that they're all moving away from the centre of something.


" NOW
how about our perception of a vacuum?"


This is a mind-fuck.a 1cm3 of deep outer-space is really a nothing,non-existance personified.but shove a quanta of matter or light in there and now the same behaviours that happens here will happen there.
 

"ALSO, why is the air of the earth is not being
sucked by the STRONG vacuum of outer space?"


Gravity



" What is this energy?
Why does it not allow for everything to die? Why does
it keep going on and on and on? So I can come back
and bully profitis? :)"


We're not meant to know the answer to this and we never will.quite depressing.but I can tell you one thing with certainty,the sun will run out of fuel one day.then there'l be no more nerds left for you to bully.

" The atoms can move
around to make whatever they want but the atoms
are not chaos/stupid, they have a chaotic order."


A-ha.the pattern of ALL existance.its as if existance cannot makeup its mind which way it wants to go.neither total chaos nor total order.lucky for us this allows us to make up its mind for it using certain methods.


"YES sodium atom is concisious.  Who
the hell told the sodium to be sodium in the atomic world?"


A-ha,remember the universe is see-sawing between anarchy and order so its gona spit out some sodiums here, platinums there,calciums there.

"EYY! You like multiple ladies profities :)"


If one can't afford one then one must go multiples

" Dude, then
you are in the wrong forum, there are many forums
towards pick-up-artists all over the web https://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Seduction_community#Pickup_artist"

 that forum won't teach me how to make gold out of trash dude I'm stayin right here close to the lenrists.the best pickup line proven by survey is a pic of a guy leaning on a bmw,no words required
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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2015, 08:14:01 AM »
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All matter is comprised of the same thing,dipoles of quanta.it was apophasis pointed this out nicely in the other thread.

You mean ALL MATTER is the same inside the KNOWN. I'm getting tired of saying this, but we LEARN FROM THE OUTSIDE IN...we are not learning from the inside out. So, like I was saying, our vacuum cannot be the same as the vacuum from the outside. IOW, 100% point blank, we are just here to learn period. Your parents could have raised you to be retarded :P while your neighbor same age could probably became the king of England (example)...but even though through all of this, knowledge comes from the outside not from the inside. And since knowledge and awareness comes from the outside, we are only learning and nothing is 100% true as we speak. So our mere vacuum of a motor and fan is not the same as the galaxy vacuum at all. You don't even know what is causing a “black hole” to suck stuff in with out even knowing what the motor is?

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The giant bang is just a theory. movement of matter/light/and debris in the universe indicate that they're all moving away from the centre of something.

Hehehehehe like I did not know that...you forgot to mention that it came from matter smaller than this dot →.

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This is a mind-fuck.a 1cm3 of deep outer-space is really a nothing,non-existance personified.but shove a quanta of matter or light in there and now the same behaviours that happens here will happen there.

Still, the vacuum perception of the galaxy vacuum CANNOT be reproduced here on earth! And hence it cannot be reproduced, it's just “theories”. Again, we only learn from the outside like a bird brain following crumbs of bread. The bird is not throwing crumbs of bread but eating them = learning from the outside in. Not!!!! a human was born that can make a universe. It is pretty simple profitis, the universe exists, now lest see you create one?

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Gravity

Gravity inside gravity inside gravity inside gravity inside gravity = lets call everything gravity lol That's like saying ANIMALS...but what are animals? Just animals!


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A-ha.the pattern of ALL existance.its as if existance cannot makeup its mind which way it wants to go.neither total chaos nor total order.lucky for us this allows us to make up its mind for it using certain methods.

Profitis, your body is a chaotic “ordered” of a body and that chaotic order of atoms is also in your brain. Your brain is free to think whatever it wants but the DNA of the thinking is to give those wireless thought through both the mouth and the thought to pass a long to the rest. You can be there sitting in your chair and speak many upon many things with out making a change while HISTORY and EVOLUTION but the atoms ALREADY know this. The atoms will not allow you to destroy their “atom” order (DNA). Now lets think about if we are thinking for ourselves or are we being “manipulated” by the atoms? When I think that I'm just a clump of atoms, I kind of have to believe that I am a puppet of the atoms. What ever I know I only know because of what the atoms allow me to learn. IOW, you are controlled by the atoms period. The truth of the future is if you can understand what the atoms teach you.

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A-ha,remember the universe is see-sawing between anarchy and order so its gona spit out some sodiums here, platinums there,calciums there.

Yes but we are talking about human evolution here. Does gold created the human evolution or greed? No matter what, all the human payments came from natural resources.

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If one can't afford one then one must go multiples

How much are you worth? Maybe I can afford you to mow my grass.

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that forum won't teach me how to make gold out of trash dude I'm stayin right here close to the lenrists.the best pickup line proven by survey is a pic of a guy leaning on a bmw,no words required

Ohhh, playa play on. Lol How much gold do you own BUT please don't give me your address. NOT because I would want to take your gold, but because there are many many many many many poor people that would kill for money. They can't hunt for food, so they hunt for money.

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2015, 11:34:15 PM »
" ALL MATTER is the same inside the
KNOWN. I'm getting tired of saying this, but we
LEARN FROM THE OUTSIDE IN...we are not learning
from the inside out."

Your consciousness is outside-in or inside-out?irrelevent

"So, like I was saying, our vacuum
cannot be the same as the vacuum from the outside."

What are you saying.in physics the E-vac or zeropoint field is pan-universal this includes you buddy.

"IOW, 100% point blank, we are just here to learn
period."

Absolute bullshit,we are here to exist.period.what happens with human existence is inconsequencial to the universe


"Hehehehehe like I did not know that...you forgot to
mention that it came from matter smaller than this
dot →."

So it was pure potential for existance.would you say that the potential for existance itself was pan-universal or just located at one spot for all eternity (I got you thinking now right?)



"Still, the vacuum perception of the galaxy vacuum
CANNOT be reproduced here on earth! And hence it
cannot be reproduced, it's just “theories”. Again, we
only learn from the outside like a bird brain following
crumbs of bread. The bird is not throwing crumbs of
bread but eating them = learning from the outside in.
Not!!!! a human was born that can make a universe. It
is pretty simple profitis, the universe exists, now lest
see you create one?"


Hehe, if you only knew.lemmepuddit2uthisway,,if you can learn to communicate with and tame this pan-universal E-vac you become GOD himself but becareful,with power comes responsibilty.

 
"Gravity inside gravity inside gravity inside gravity
inside gravity = lets call everything gravity lol That's
like saying ANIMALS...but what are animals? Just
animals!"

Your point is?


"The atoms will not allow you to
destroy their “atom” order (DNA). Now lets think
about if we are thinking for ourselves or are we being
“manipulated” by the atoms? When I think that I'm
just a clump of atoms, I kind of have to believe that I
am a puppet of the atoms"

Clump of existance and puppet of existance yes,it takes higher learning,let's call it spiritual or quantum learning, to be able to detach yourself from the instructions of your instincts when knowledge is required.the first rule number one:question everything including yourself.


"Yes but we are talking about human evolution here.
Does gold created the human evolution or greed? No
matter what, all the human payments came from
natural resources."

I thought we were talking about the vaccuum field of the universe?humans,animals,plants only interest me insofar as consciousness and thought is concerned as consciousness is the link between us and non-existance.non-existance is what spat out the universe.non-existance is the real power behind it all.


"How much are you worth? Maybe I can afford you to
mow my grass."

You'l pay in dollars?I'l take it

"Ohhh, playa play on. Lol How much gold do you own
BUT please don't give me your address. NOT because
I would want to take your gold, but because there are
many many many many many poor people that
would kill for money. They can't hunt for food, so
they hunt for money"


 Yes I better invest in a glock 40 before I nail this bismuth's ass thanks for the warning

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2015, 03:44:45 AM »


Yes I better invest in a glock 40 before I nail this bismuth's ass thanks for the warning

Yes but, just remember that the Glock Company only made those weapons for greedy profits.  They sold them to the greedy gun dealer from
whom you would buy one.  Forget that it is one of the finest handguns in the world, and has been used to save tens of thousands of lives since its invention.  Forget that Glock would not have invested the money in R&D to develop this fine weapon unless they thought they could make greedy profits with it  In Joel's perfect world, you would only have a pointed stick to protect yourself with that you had to make yourself because if someone made one for you, they would probably want to make money from doing so.

Bill

PS  I had a Glock model 22 (.40 cal.) but I sold it last year for a greedy profit so I could eat.

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2015, 06:46:26 AM »
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In Joel's perfect world, you would only have a pointed stick to protect yourself
with that you had to make yourself because if someone made one for you, they
would probably want to make money from doing so.
I think you have it wrong because in a perfect world we would have no need for weapons because there would be no violence. Thus the problem is not weapons but the mentality of the people who hold and use the weapons. However people often like to blame their own mental deficiencies on inanimate objects rather than address the real problems. I believe it is going to get worse simply because technology is advancing much faster than people's intelligence which is a recipe for disaster. Thus if we hold this path then logically we will have billions of stupid people weilding advanced weapons.
I see two options at this point, one we hold the staus quo and destroy ourselves or two we come to our senses and outlaw all weapons on a global scale. I like to think of it this way, if we ever met an advanced alien civilization with advanced intelligence do you think they would be carrying a gun?, lol. Well no that's just silly and the most educated and intelligent people here on Earth rarely if ever carry a gun either. Which tells us a great deal about the people who do carry guns who are not the most educated or intelligent people.
 
We should try to be more like the best humanity has to offer not the worst.

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2015, 03:07:46 AM »
@Pirate88179I think you have it wrong because in a perfect world we would have no need for weapons because there would be no violence. Thus the problem is not weapons but the mentality of the people who hold and use the weapons. However people often like to blame their own mental deficiencies on inanimate objects rather than address the real problems. I believe it is going to get worse simply because technology is advancing much faster than people's intelligence which is a recipe for disaster. Thus if we hold this path then logically we will have billions of stupid people weilding advanced weapons.
I see two options at this point, one we hold the staus quo and destroy ourselves or two we come to our senses and outlaw all weapons on a global scale. I like to think of it this way, if we ever met an advanced alien civilization with advanced intelligence do you think they would be carrying a gun?, lol. Well no that's just silly and the most educated and intelligent people here on Earth rarely if ever carry a gun either. Which tells us a great deal about the people who do carry guns who are not the most educated or intelligent people.
 
We should try to be more like the best humanity has to offer not the worst.

AC

Be sure to tell that to the guy that breaks into your house at 3:00 am and wants to murder your family.  I am sure he will listen to reason.

The world is full of sick people, I wish it were not this way, but it is. To pretend otherwise is not smart in my opinion.  I carry a gun.  I get paid to carry a gun.  I protect people, and myself.  I see nothing wrong with that.  If you want to sacrifice yourself and your family members to the crazy folks, then I suppose that is your business.  Good luck with that.  I can honestly say that I have never shot anyone that didn't need shooting.

Bill

PS  My IQ is 139 so, there goes your stupid people owning guns theory.

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2015, 08:39:34 AM »
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Be sure to tell that to the guy that breaks into your house at 3:00 am and wants
to murder your family.  I am sure he will listen to reason.
The world is full of sick people, I wish it were not this way, but it is. To pretend otherwise is
not smart in my opinion.  I carry a gun.  I get paid to carry a gun.  I protect
people, and myself.  I see nothing wrong with that.  If you want to sacrifice
yourself and your family members to the crazy folks, then I suppose that is your
business.  Good luck with that.  I can honestly say that I have never shot
anyone that didn't need shooting.
PS  My IQ is 139 so, there goes your stupid
people owning guns theory.

I don't actually know anyone who has ever had there house broken into and many days we leave the house and garage unlocked and leave the keys in our vehicles outside over night. You know I have to ask... if you have such a high IQ then why would you live in such a violent place where guns are a necessity?. It would seem to me the intelligent thing to do would be to move somewhere else away from the crazy folks.
The thing to remember is that the mind can rationalize almost anything which becomes normal to it no matter how insane it is. For some drug use or carrying a gun becomes normal to them and they cannot use critical thinking to see it for what it is. Logically if we need to carry a gun because we feel threatened by all the percieved sick or crazy people all around us then this is not normal, it is not acceptable and it is obviously a problem which needs to be addressed. Denial is not a solution.
 
AC
 

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2015, 10:39:48 AM »
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Your consciousness is outside-in or inside-out?irrelevent

Listen to this profitis, our learning is a toroid consciousness. The once and for all truth needs to come out about the truth. Your mom and dad gave life to you? Their genetic code was pasts along to you? They raised you not to be stupid as best they could? For what? To run a company? To raise cattle or sheep? To get rich? Or are you now trying to figure out how to get rich? Everything that you know is coming from the OUTSIDE-IN. The OUTSIDE-IN is also coded that male and female make love and then make a baby. NOW lets go deeeppper. Why did the female and male want to make a profitis baby? Because their INSIDE-OUT DNA to reproduce? This is the INNER DNA showing to reproduce and the knowledge to survive comes from the OUTSIDE-IN...we kind of have a DNA LIFE toroid going on here. Where the ONLY purpose of life is to keep on the toroid going. BORING! We have mom and dad making babies? (inner DNA). We have babies taught to learn hw to survive in this world (outer DNA). SOOO it looks like the inner DNA is CONSTANT NS THE outer DNA IS MOSTLY “ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE”.  Profitis, you have said it yourself, you wanna make love to many ladies? The DNA gives you this pleasure…..it makes you feel good. If you don't want to reproduce, you die. Because the INNER-DNA tells you what to do.

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What are you saying.in physics the E-vac or zeropoint field is pan-universal this includes you buddy.

Yeah I know I exists inside the “vacuum” of human politics. All of these politics are only trying to understand the universe….remember the earth being carried by a huge turtle? Or the earth being flat? While being 99% convince on that ideology many killings where committed in many places! So then I come to my theory! Why are humans fighting each other? = GREEED? Why would I want to take your woman and kids when I have my own woman and kids? = GREEED? Why do I want more money than I can spent in my whole entire life? = GREEEED? Now if we can understand how viruses work and how GREEED works, we can understand that corruption-corrupts-absolutely and now the human DNA BEAUTIFUL PATH is not even taken into consideration BUT only THE greeedy part is. AND this is why we facing a 6th great extinction because the consciousness of the EVOLUTION of the DNA would never allow that to happen. This is very simple to understand...people neeed a strong leader. 1) will make you move forward 2) will make you feel like dirt to feel better and kill the earth. = God VS devil.  Super hero vs bad guy. Positive VS negative.

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Absolute bullshit,we are here to exist.period.what happens with human existence is inconsequencial to the universe

hehehehe what did your parents teach you? Just because you can't understand does not mean that this universe is chaotic. :P

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So it was pure potential for existance.would you say that the potential for existance itself was pan-universal or just located at one spot for all eternity (I got you thinking now right?)

hehehehe my dad use to bully me, I meet bullies all of the time….you know what I love? When they get fired from their “expert” positions! You know what profitis, I have figured you out! You want to feel praised. You want many females at your feet. You don't want to work hard to get FREEE energy. LOL….you and pirate would get along pretty well...lol...but first tell each others ages...because you two cannot deal with new born babies.

 
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You'l pay in dollars?I'l take it

Yeah, I pay in USD money. If I go against your CORE LIFE BELIEFS because I would pay your $2000USD would you agree with me because I payed you that money? LOL….how can I KNOW YOU WOULD NOT KILL ME TO TAKE $10,000 OF MY BACK ACOUNT?

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 Yes I better invest in a glock 40 before I nail this bismuth's ass thanks for the warning

Hmmm post a pic leaning against a BMW if you make it there. Lol If you don't have money, don't worry about your imaginary car. And you know there are other road blocks past your imaginary car? Maybe that no guns are allowed in the building? Maybe it only takes brains about thinking the in and outs about the galaxy?

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2015, 01:46:54 AM »
@Pirate88179
I don't actually know anyone who has ever had there house broken into and many days we leave the house and garage unlocked and leave the keys in our vehicles outside over night. You know I have to ask... if you have such a high IQ then why would you live in such a violent place where guns are a necessity?. It would seem to me the intelligent thing to do would be to move somewhere else away from the crazy folks.
The thing to remember is that the mind can rationalize almost anything which becomes normal to it no matter how insane it is. For some drug use or carrying a gun becomes normal to them and they cannot use critical thinking to see it for what it is. Logically if we need to carry a gun because we feel threatened by all the percieved sick or crazy people all around us then this is not normal, it is not acceptable and it is obviously a problem which needs to be addressed. Denial is not a solution.
 
AC

Sure, just ask the families of those mounties that were gunned down in your gun free country.  So, you claim to have no crazy people there, and no guns yet somehow, those poor mounties were killed by a crazy guy with guns.

You make absolutely no sense at all and fail to apply logic to this situation.

I am done with this discussion as you just do not get it and probably never will.

I almost feel sorry for you and your family.

Bill

PS  My I.Q. is not really all that high but, it is higher than average. (100 is average)  My older brother's I.Q. is over 150 and my late father's was much higher than that.  By the way, my Dad, being ex-military, had guns and so does my brother.  You might want to re-examine your "only stupid people have guns" theory.

One more point.  You are totally correct when you said if someone lives in a high crime ( murder) area, they should have the smarts to move elsewhere.  I agree.  But, let's look at the murder rates in LA, Chicago, NY, Baltimore and DC.  Do you know what they all have in common?  They are gun free zones. (except for cops)  Same with the school shootings...all gun free zones.  Does that not tell you something?  In Chicago alone there are over 50 gun murders/week.  Yes, that's 50!  But how can that be in a gun free zone?  Easy, the bad guys will still always be able to get a gun. (they don't seem to follow the laws it seems)  Isn't it better to be able to be armed against them?
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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2015, 04:59:15 AM »
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Sure, just ask the families of those mounties that were gunned down in your gun free country.  So, you claim to have no crazy people there, and no guns yet somehow, those poor mounties were killed by a crazy guy with guns.[/size]You make absolutely no sense at all and fail to apply logic to this situation.I am done with this discussion as you just do not get it and probably never will.I almost feel sorry for you and your family.


Logically I do not live in all of Canada so to presume the worst case scenario in Canada must apply to me personally where I live is a little woo-woo Bill.


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PS  My I.Q. is not really all that high but, it is higher than average. (100 is average)  My older brother's I.Q. is over 150 and my late father's was much higher than that.  By the way, my Dad, being ex-military, had guns and so does my brother.  You might want to re-examine your "only stupid people have guns" theory.


So you and your brother are really smart but like to live in violent gun infested parts of the world and shoot people... that about cover it Bill?.


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One more point.  You are totally correct when you said if someone lives in a high crime ( murder) area, they should have the smarts to move elsewhere.  I agree.  But, let's look at the murder rates in LA, Chicago, NY, Baltimore and DC.  Do you know what they all have in common?  They are gun free zones. (except for cops)  Same with the school shootings...all gun free zones.  Does that not tell you something?  In Chicago alone there are over 50 gun murders/week.  Yes, that's 50!  But how can that be in a gun free zone?  Easy, the bad guys will still always be able to get a gun. (they don't seem to follow the laws it seems)  Isn't it better to be able to be armed against them?


Tit for Tat has never really worked Bill because it's immature and based on a playground mentality. Little Johnny hit me so I hit him, then Bill hit me because I hit Johnny and frank hit Johnny because he hit Bill. You see the problem here is when responsible adults claim to be responsible adults but use the same reasoning as children. If all adults actually acted like adults and addressed the real issues then we wouldn't need guns and we wouldn't be having this conversation... would we?.




AC

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2015, 05:16:12 AM »
@Bill

Logically I do not live in all of Canada so to presume the worst case scenario in Canada must apply to me personally where I live is a little woo-woo Bill.



So you and your brother are really smart but like to live in violent gun infested parts of the world and shoot people... that about cover it Bill?.



Tit for Tat has never really worked Bill because it's immature and based on a playground mentality. Little Johnny hit me so I hit him, then Bill hit me because I hit Johnny and frank hit Johnny because he hit Bill. You see the problem here is when responsible adults claim to be responsible adults but use the same reasoning as children. If all adults actually acted like adults and addressed the real issues then we wouldn't need guns and we wouldn't be having this conversation... would we?.




AC

Well, we are not having this conversation because you are too lost and I can't help you.  You left out crazy adults, you know, those guys that kill folks for the $5 in their pockets?  I live in a very low crime state, much lower than yours.  The difference is, I refuse to be a victim, nor allow anyone I care about to be a victim.  You do not seem to care so,...like I said...good luck to you.  Remember, it only takes one nut to turn your life upside down by murdering the ones you love.  Your insistence of there being no crazy folks in Canada was full of crap wasn't it?  Now you claim that, that was not near you so...it does not bother you.  What if, say, just for a thought experiment, that those mounties and all of those other folks that got killed thought the same thing as you?  I'll be their families think different now don't they?

We have a state that banned all guns, just like you want...and a nut drove his car into a group of school children waiting for the school bus.  He killed and maimed a bunch of them.  So, your answer is that now we have to ban cars?  It is so funny, in electronics, you are very logical, in this topic, not so much.

One more story...a few years ago, thanks to Obama's budget cuts, a guy got let out of the insane asylum.  He was in there for murdering his mother with an axe.  So, he gets out...and a week later he moves to my town and, at 2:00 a.m. he breaks into a ladies home using his axe to chop the door open.  She was in her bedroom and, she got up and locked her bedroom door.  A few minutes later, she watched as he chopped his way into her bedroom.  This woman was 72 years old and had no connection with this guy at all.  When he finally chopped his way into her room, she blew him to hell with her 357 mag.  What would have happened to that woman had she not had a gun and knew how to use it?  Should she have just died because guns are evil?  The perp did not have a gun, he had an axe, so, maybe we should now ban axes?

My guess is that she would not agree with your fear of guns at all.

Bill

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2015, 05:52:41 AM »
Hey bill let me tell you this. When I was growing up I got in to many HAND TO HAND fights as a teen. This means me breaking your bone or maybe just giving a black eye or a sore rib. Now after fighting and understanding that it was immature and stupid...we both came out still alive...both could have come out to make a big difference in this world or even if not, GREW UP TO BE “NORMAL”.

Now replace that with guns? People are always are going to DEBATE!!! this does not mean one should  HAVE the right to kill those they don't agree on? Guns are made for war and ONLY to kill period. In the evolution side of things, animals defend themselves with intimidation or venom but they HAVE A CHANCE to evolve to defend themselves. One bullet, means you are dead. Actually, the bullet signifies the immaturity of the human beings and also signifies their destruction of one another. Just wait when there is a nuclear war started. Your gun will not mean anything.

Please tell me who would you shoot with your gun?

Then please tell me if the cops shoot others for the same reason?

The evolution shows that hand to hand combat is the NORMAL thing to do. NOT just kill people you don't agree with inside a political loophole. When I had hand to hand fights, they ended up being my friends.

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2015, 06:14:32 AM »
Hey bill let me tell you this. When I was growing up I got in to many HAND TO HAND fights as a teen. This means me breaking your bone or maybe just giving a black eye or a sore rib. Now after fighting and understanding that it was immature and stupid...we both came out still alive...both could have come out to make a big difference in this world or even if not, GREW UP TO BE “NORMAL”.

Now replace that with guns? People are always are going to DEBATE!!! this does not mean one should  HAVE the right to kill those they don't agree on? Guns are made for war and ONLY to kill period. In the evolution side of things, animals defend themselves with intimidation or venom but they HAVE A CHANCE to evolve to defend themselves. One bullet, means you are dead. Actually, the bullet signifies the immaturity of the human beings and also signifies their destruction of one another. Just wait when there is a nuclear war started. Your gun will not mean anything.

Please tell me who would you shoot with your gun?

Then please tell me if the cops shoot others for the same reason?

The evolution shows that hand to hand combat is the NORMAL thing to do. NOT just kill people you don't agree with inside a political loophole. When I had hand to hand fights, they ended up being my friends.

I only shoot people that are trying to kill me, or someone I am responsible for. (That is the law) End of story.  You can't just shoot someone because you have an argument with them.  I mean, I guess you can but, now you are charged with murder. (I have never been convicted of murder)

There are plenty of times that a gun can stop crime without shooting anyone.  Here is an example:  I am walking down the street, a guy comes up to me with a knife and wants my wallet...I say...sure...just hang on...it's right here...and pull out my gun and...guess what?  He suddenly decides that he no longer wants my wallet.  He emphasizes this point by running away at high speed.  So, no one was hurt, and, I still have my wallet.  Do you think if I tried to tell him that what he was doing was wrong would have stopped him?  Of course not.  This happens thousands of times every day in the world.  Guns save lives.  The statistics prove it over and over.

Don't misunderstand me.  You never, ever, ever pull a gun on someone unless you are ready, willing and able to shoot them.  Had this guy charged me with his knife, he would be dead.  I am glad he ran away.  Probably the next guy he tried to rob shot him.  I am glad that is not on my conscience.

Joel, you do know that you can kill a human with your bare hands about 30 different ways right?

Bill

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Re: Produce gold from Bismuth
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2015, 07:04:09 AM »
Sure, just ask the families of those mounties that were gunned down in your gun free country.  So, you claim to have no crazy people there, and no guns yet somehow, those poor mounties were killed by a crazy guy with guns.

You make absolutely no sense at all and fail to apply logic to this situation.

I am done with this discussion as you just do not get it and probably never will.

I almost feel sorry for you and your family.

Bill

PS  My I.Q. is not really all that high but, it is higher than average. (100 is average)  My older brother's I.Q. is over 150 and my late father's was much higher than that.  By the way, my Dad, being ex-military, had guns and so does my brother.  You might want to re-examine your "only stupid people have guns" theory.

One more point.  You are totally correct when you said if someone lives in a high crime ( murder) area, they should have the smarts to move elsewhere.  I agree.  But, let's look at the murder rates in LA, Chicago, NY, Baltimore and DC.  Do you know what they all have in common?  They are gun free zones. (except for cops)  Same with the school shootings...all gun free zones.  Does that not tell you something?  In Chicago alone there are over 50 gun murders/week.  Yes, that's 50!  But how can that be in a gun free zone?  Easy, the bad guys will still always be able to get a gun. (they don't seem to follow the laws it seems)  Isn't it better to be able to be armed against them?


Deja vu all over again. Like 1,000 MPH on the deck.  ::)

50 X 52 = 26,000 a year. That's a BIG number for a small nation like Chicago. Wait a minute. Chi is a town, not a nation. Got yo numbers wrong AGAIN Billy? Do you EVER write the right thing? But you might be correct, I don't keep with gun murders in Chi. Got any reference to verify yo fantastic figure?

Do you get your thinking as clear as this when you are deciding whether or not you need to shoot somebody in your line of work?


CANGAS 184

PS My IQ is not 184.