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Offline pomodoro

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2016, 12:44:35 AM »
Fellow researchers, the second video of the Dollard experiment has been uploaded yesterday. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Als9E0lntec

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2016, 01:15:02 AM »
Sir
Your experiments have been very intriguing ,as well as a wonderful service to experimenters and how caution needs to be a part of their test protocol for safety sake.

 This last one is not booting from the link posted here [at least not for me ??] 
EDIT it is working for me now .

I did see you mentioned a special badge/detector  and exposing it to this event  ?

here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20402-dont-attempt-radiant-energy-experiment.html

have you had any report on that result yet ?

respectfully

Chet

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2016, 02:42:31 AM »
pomodoro,

I am not convinced that there are x-rays produced in your experiment.
You need to totally shield the geiger-counter in a closed faraday-cage. The strong oscillating electric field causes
electrostaic induction which also affects the inner eletronics of the geiger-counter. If there would be x-rays , can they pass the aluminium-barrier ?.Is a geiger-counter sensitive to x-rays ( cross-sensitivity ) ? I do not know.
But first shield the whole geiger device with a cage. Put the counter-tube including the Box with the electronic into it.

I know its a lot of work to buiild a farady-cage in a correct way but this is a necessary step before you jump to conclusions.

Anyway.. good work

Regards

Kator01

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2016, 03:26:16 AM »
Hi Kator, unfortunately  I don't have time to do any more regarding this  experiment but I understand your reasoning.

However, I have done as much as I can to show that a long wire as well as a long conducting fluoro  tube connected to the coil do not emit enough field to show any counts on the research grade Geiger, which is housed in a metal box and has a metal tube holder and kept about 3 feet away.  I do get counts when the tube is placed two inches from the coil, but not when three feet away. Only when this special bulb is connected do I then get counts.  Also, the fact that the thick lead, positioned only in front of the geiger tube stops the counts but the other metal, aluminum, in the same position does nothing, to me indicates that it is not voltage spikes that are triggering any counts.  I think a few people should repeat this experiment  with 50kV or more , if they get my results  then at some stage put the geiger in a microwave oven as a Faraday cage.  I guess they should put a radio in there first to see if it blocks RF.

I use 35kV on my Xray diffractometer and get enough Xrays for a good scan, so 50kV can produce them.

In a week or two I shall get results from the badge that was exposed for 45 seconds two feet away, then I will be 100% sure, but at the moment I'm 95%.

Cheers  Pomo.

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2016, 04:10:17 AM »
Sir
Your experiments have been very intriguing ,as well as a wonderful service to experimenters and how caution needs to be a part of their test protocol for safety sake.

 This last one is not booting from the link posted here [at least not for me ??] 
EDIT it is working for me now .

I did see you mentioned a special badge/detector  and exposing it to this event  ?

here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20402-dont-attempt-radiant-energy-experiment.html

have you had any report on that result yet ?

respectfully



Chet

Hi Chet, no results, as I sent it off only yesterday. I forgot to put the dangling foil near it , so the intensity will be a bit lower, but from afar I saw the geiger register many counts.  The photo is deceptive, there are two feet from the badge to the tube.

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2016, 12:33:10 AM »
Pomodoro,

concerning the normal fluorescent light ( Neon ) This is a Neon-Gas fill tube at almost athmospheric pressure while the

small bulb is at very low pressure.

I have an old german physics-textbook ( Grimsehl-Tomaschek, 1940)  in which many experiments are shown , ie. what kind
of radiation is obsereved and measured, depending on the level of pressure. They would feed in High Voltage in the
Kilohertz range and then systematically reduced the pressure in longer tubes. So with these expermiments they identified
different kinds of rays, one of which is the Kathode-Ray-Beam which hits the Anode-Plate and if there are holes in the

Anode-Plate, these Rays pass trough the holes beyond the Anode and create fluorescence while hitting the glass behind
the Anode. At a certain  strengh of the electric field which accellerated the electrons, x-rays occur.

What are the conditions vor x-rasy to occur . See here at paragraph "Production by electrons" the list of anode-material to
be used.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray

The electron-beam must have enough energy for creating "Bremsstrahlung" if it hits the Anode ( Kathode-Ray hits

Anode-material, so there needs to be a longer path the electrons have to travel along in order to reach the respective

kinetic energy.

Question: Where is the Anode in this little Bulb for X-rays to occur ? There is  none so something different is going on
here and I have no idea what it is. What I assume is a plasma and oscillations within the plasma.

I am sure that Eric and Lindermann knew about the conditions for X-rays to occur since Mr. Röntgen discovered these
rays in 1895 ( !! )  and all the knowledge was published and known for almost 80 years. They did not expose the audiance
to x-rays in a careless way, certainly not.

Now back to the Faraday-Cage:

The metal box of your Geiger-Counter is :
    1) open at the front where the analog instrument ( Galvanometer ) in built in
    2) the metal box is grounded, ie. connected with the earth-wire

Both condition inhibit the functionality of a Faraday-Cage. because it is crucial to the function of shielding electric
frequencies that the cage is fully closed ( no opening) and not grounded.
This is the reason why I proposed that you place the whole Geiger-Apparatus in a Faraday-Cage.

Trust me, I have some practical experience with shielding-problems. It sometimes drives you crazy especially at high
voltage.

If you have the time this here can be of interest, a phenomenon which a older radio-professional discovered. Imagine that this
Plasmon-Oscillation occurs at 230 V and what can happen if you feed in 14 Kilovolt at 30 000 Hz... ?

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/gluehlampe_als_ukw_stoersender.html?language_id=6&hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Take care

Kator01

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2016, 04:51:33 AM »
Wow, how did you find that great article?? You have awesome skills in finding good stuff on the web! Its a very interesting article.

The normal fluoro light is  the mercury one, which is at the relatively low vapor pressure of mercury. It functions as a good antenna since
it has a low resistance when the plasma is generated by the testa coil. Still, no counts were registered!

 Because of the relatively high pressure, electrons can't be accelerated enough, as they keep hitting mercury atoms, so no Xrays.  For Xrays in a cold cathode, you need some atoms of gas but not many. Here you still get the necessary ionization of the gas, where the heavy ionized gas hits the cathode to produce secondary electrons, but the mean free path of the electrons is much greater, as the vacuum is low, and they can strike the glass with great speed.

Although silicon has a low atomic weight, the  Bremsstrahlung will still have a range of energy with a certain low cutoff, but a maximum equal to the maximum kV of the coil.  The low atomic weight will affect the intensity but not the energy.

You must have read articles such as the one below below, which detail Tesla's unipolar
vacuum tube for Xrays. It only has one electrode, but he managed to make better Xray photos than those of Roentgen.


http://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.284075206

There is not much difference with the bulb we have.  The anode is the glass or the metallic plate when placed near the glass. The cathode is the filament.  Of course it will only work with high voltage AC in the 30+ kV range.


Kator, until the badge results are back there is doubt for sure.

Are you able to replicate this experiment? I'd love to see others with HV equipment trying it.  I bet one of those ZVS flybacks with 50kV or more could do it too.

Cheers

Pomo



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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2016, 07:41:51 PM »
Hey hey hey pomodoro,

you are a good researcher too ! Great find ! I didt know this.

Röntgen had no clue even after 5 years when he himself stumbled on these rays! His Letter to Tesla is a total capitulation.
If you understand german language you will notice his humble attitude towards Tesla.

And I have to say:  thats a darn good foto of his foot. Shoes at that time have certainly survived 10 years or more. Did you notice the multiple nails driven into the heels ?

This makes the subject serious. Unfortunately I have no means at the present time to replicate.

Still on mystery remains: the attracting force.

Take care

Kator01



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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2017, 08:13:36 AM »
I had the chance to run the experiment again with a new style of radiation badge. The badge had shown zero uSv cumulative for the last year.

After a short one minute exposure at a distance of 40cm from the tube the results came back as having received 120uSv! . That's anywhere from 1  to 6 chest x rays worth , depending on the site you look at.

Not worth the risk as far as I am concerned.

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2017, 04:57:14 PM »
Excellent observation and advice [make sure you know the danger]..

being able to see this in real time is very very important to persons experimenting and people around them.

Thx
Chet

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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2017, 09:09:59 AM »
Excellent observation and advice [make sure you know the danger]..

being able to see this in real time is very very important to persons experimenting and people around them.

Thx
Chet


No probs, Just did another two tests at different locations to the tube  , I'll report on those when results come back. Ultimately, its best to do these experiments by walking far away from the tube when there is HV on it. I sure hope nobody has spent hours in front of a vacuum tube with a Tesla coil on it.


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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2017, 01:56:35 PM »
A lighbulb is  mostly safe. Need reasonably good vacuum inside bulb. Bulbs with vertical filaments are usually vacuum  = danger , horizontal ones are argon filled= safe.  A proper electronic vacuum tube probably safe unless the filament is energised as some air molecules are required for initial ionization.  I used the long filament as Dollard did as I suspected it had vacuum , not argon.  Its easy to tell, the tesla spark easily sparks thru the gas if its an argon type, but you get no internal sparks to the glass from the filament for the vacuum types.   


Remember, the dosimeter badge was 40cm away, a reasonable distance. If someone's hands or head is near the bulb they could get heaps more radiation
Those dosimeters in the links are OK but being electronic could give false alarms.  i would build a lead box and a magnetic steel box. If the alarm goes off when in the steel box but is considerably less in the lead box, then yes, there is cause for alarm.  My old videos show that a normal fluoro tube gives no reading on the geiger counter, in other words the geiger was far enough not to be giving false signals from the tesla, but replacing  the fluore with the special bulb gave the beautiful attraction of the foil and also gave many xrays.  I'm amazed nobody tried replicating it, as the attractiopn of the  foil to the glass is quite amazing. I used to think about it for years after seeing Dollards video.




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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2017, 04:37:05 PM »
Yes the Dollard Videos are something to see indeed, must be amazing to see in real life.. another amazing thing which has been on the table of late is the Corum bros ball lightening experiments .

I honestly was unaware this effect could be replicated until Tinsel Mentioned them and their work with ball lightning .
will take more than a few cheeseburgers to tempt him into that replication...

also to note the MO for the ball lightning effect shares similarities with some OU claims ,two frequencies mixing into a third harmonic
which produces a very strong effect ?
Dr.Jones [member physicsprof] shared this detector [below] which he is pleased with [so far]

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3472.msg63066;topicseen#msg63066

 being able to qualify the effectiveness of these inexpensive units against commercial grade detection would be nice to see.
and your suggestions above are important when known events are possible on the bench.




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Re: The Eric Dollard Lightglobe experiment
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2017, 08:49:15 PM »
I see one link above doesn't go thru
Dr.Jones recommended unit

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