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Author Topic: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor  (Read 31936 times)

Offline DreamThinkBuild

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Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« on: July 05, 2015, 11:31:08 PM »
Hi Stefan,

Thank you for posting that interesting video and English translation of the Luling magnet motor. There is a similar video here by British Pathe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6cycmBwLb8

The following is only my interpretation so it could be wrong but may give an idea for someone.
 
He has two versions shown in the video a small desk top version which only has 2 rotor sections and the larger one which looks like 4 rotor sections with 4 spring arms attached, maybe what the 4x4 was referring to?

Going frame by frame it looks like there are two magnets on a arm which is driven by a cam. It is flush with the oncoming rotor but then is quickly snapped back by the spring and cam action. In between the two magnets looks to be a solid block of iron or electrical steel. When the magnets are in front the field extends outwards but when snapped back the field is neutralized through the block.

You can see this action in the video at 0:15 onwards that the rotor rapidly approaches the magnet then as the rotor gets near the magnets they are quickly snapped back.

After I did the drawings I realized that there could be an inverted operation where the metal is actually a single magnet and the iron/steel plates are what moves back and forth.

The only part that is still nagging me with this design is that there appears to be no friction when he spins it in the opposite direction but the magnets seems stationary. Maybe someone else has an idea for that?

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Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« on: July 05, 2015, 11:31:08 PM »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2015, 08:10:07 PM »
Nice find Stefan.

From what I can see, the neutralization is accomplished by shunting magnetic field through a cut out, rotating iron bar.
There is an iron slab part that fits inside this cutout forming a magnetic flux path the moment a slab gets inserted into the cutout shaft by rotating the shaft.
Reminds me mechanical flux switching as in 'Ward Force' device of Steven Ward.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2015, 10:26:57 PM »
Critical information:

Watch all this guys magnet related videos.
Permanent Magnets: The Secret Of The Two Types Of Magnetic Field Cancellations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKGoXD8P5A




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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2015, 02:00:34 AM »
Its not a lot of power its called magnetic inertia ! THIS TYPE OF MOTOR HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YEARS ! If they were any good they would have been mass produced by now. My one is different it can power a 22tone lorry but Stefan wont let me up load it here ?????? I wonder why ??????? R u reading this Stefan ????

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 05:26:16 AM »
@ATOM1
are you too stupid to upload a file or what ?

The L├╝ling motor has nothing to do with magnetic inertia,
but with neutralisation and shielding of the magnetic field of permanent magnets..

So looking forward to see your one...

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 05:26:16 AM »
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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 10:29:07 AM »
I be curious here.  File may be too big in case HJ-split  or non supported file type.  zip and split with 7zip if nothing else.

thay

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 12:52:24 PM »
There is no secret.
There is no magnetic field cancellation.
Yin and Yang.
balance
In any case.

Sorry.
this is the reality. :)

Watch the video. You may learn something.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2015, 12:52:24 PM »
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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 07:31:19 AM »
Looks like it might have some electrical cables connected to it? Perhaps a starter motor or it's able to generate just enough electricity to pull the magnets back from the sticky spot along with help from the spring and flux canceling methods?

Thanks for the translation hartiberlin. On your translated video at (00:05:37) the last word in that segment, does he say aluminum?
« Last Edit: July 08, 2015, 01:07:57 PM by MagnaProp »

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2016, 04:29:41 PM »
I know this is old but just wanted to add my 2 cents..
Thanks for the translation hartiberlin. On your translated video at (00:05:37) the last word in that segment, does he say aluminum?
no he just talks about the usage.. he says: allen gebieten (this could sound a little like aluminum) but it meens usage in all domains...

as to the shielding i was wondering.. because I do not at all see the positions of the magnets like the graphic in the first  post..

for me the rotating flywheel is iron/steel only. no magnet.. the magnet is in the rotating pipe (the one with the cutout.) the magnet attracts the iron moving part, and when it comes to the point where the magnet wants to hold on to the iron in the rotor ( the sort of sticky point if it were 2 magnets), the spring rotates the pipe so the magnet gets shielded and there is no more attraction.
the magnet then tries to attract the next piece of steel (rotates a little bit pulling the spring) an falling back again..

Alas if i think it may work, i also think that it will not produce as much power as shown in the video. (because i think in the 60ties there were no neodym magnets and the attraction was much much less.) than it could today.

Luciano

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2016, 09:07:02 PM »
...he says: allen gebieten (this could sound a little like aluminum) but it meens usage in all domains...
Thanks for the info and your thoughts on the device are interesting.

Hope I didn't turn people off from investigating this device by pointing out the parts that look electric. TinMan and others have already shown that magnets can do useful work. If this device found a way to only sip electricity while being powered by mainly permanent magnets, it would be a steep in the right direction indeed.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2016, 11:33:10 PM »
I don't suppose those could be hydraulic lines,, could they?

That would go along with what looks like maybe a pump on the left end of the shaft.

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2016, 03:24:58 AM »
Could the cables be draining-off unwanted eddy currents
    -   I think someone already mentioned it on this page,  they typed   
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"flux canceling methods?"

    (  And a far-fetched suggestion,  could there have been a technical mis-interpretation by the media-reporters,  and that 'Luling' actually meant that his device did actually receive some electrical input,  and that he claimed that his device out-putted more than it received  )

   

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2016, 12:23:41 AM »
There were a lot of cables easily visible in plain sight.

If it may of been a hoax, the designer doesn't seem like a careless type, he would have hidden them .

  Assuming it wasn't a hoax
    -  There may have been electrical-input,  and it may have been a method to  neutralize the permanent-magnets,  or the metals, through induction, or direct contact .

    -  Of course, maybe there was no electrical-input,  and the cables were either feeding generated current back into the motor,  or,  it was the performance-monitoring system

    -  Could the cables maybe not be carrying electricity, could they be intended to carry  'magnetic-current',  as part of the  'neutralization'  of the permanent-magnets,  or the metals. 
        What happens if you use metals or cables,  to join the S-pole of a magnet to it's N-pole, but I assume you'd need thicker cables .

    But there is a lot of weight providing momentum, maybe his design was so finely tuned to maximize the momentum effect,  that that could have made his device function successfully,  with, or without the above detailed possibilities . 

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2016, 02:51:17 AM »
  Somehow I think this was an actually functioning   Self-Running-Permanent-Magnet-Motor  .

    You just manually turned it initially,  it generated some current to power the magnetic-shielding-mechanism,  and then it just kept going by itself. 

    (  I wonder if the inventor was the first to think of it,  because it's the kind of very logical,  basic,  and simple idea that would have been invented even before  ' Luling'  )

    (  There was an identical? motor presented in 2013?( 2014? ) by someone from the same country,  coincidence ? ,  and I think the site-administrator actually visited the person that presented that motor  )

    This would be a great one to reproduce today( unless the one in  2013?( 2014? ) is identical.   
       Maybe it would be easier( for anyone wanting to try ) to do by using your own design,  while still basing it on the same principle.     

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2016, 05:18:21 AM »
Thanks for the info and your thoughts on the device are interesting.

Hope I didn't turn people off from investigating this device by pointing out the parts that look electric. TinMan and others have already shown that magnets can do useful work. If this device found a way to only sip electricity while being powered by mainly permanent magnets, it would be a steep in the right direction indeed.

With the "Power Assisted Magnet Motor" that I announced a little while ago in the news section, the book proposes using short pulses of electricity while the motor torque is being produced by permanent magnets.  That is exactly what the "Power Assisted Magnet Motor" is capable of doing.  It's not just a "step in the right direction", but is how to very efficiently run a magnet motor.

Liberty

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Re: Friedrich Luling Magnet Motor
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