Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)  (Read 34801 times)

Dave45

  • Guest
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2015, 05:56:05 PM »
Sometimes just the circuit layout can give insight.

Void

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2333
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2015, 06:33:47 PM »
... and addresses some questions raised in this thread.

It has already been mentioned that when you have a poor impedance match from the driver
circuit to a load, that more power can well be dissipated in the driver circuit components such as the
transistor, and also possibly in the coils. With a better impedance match to the load (LEDs), more power is transferred to
the LEDs. The input power may not change very much in either case. Moving the circuit board around or the aligator clip can vary
the impedance match to the LEDs, as does moving your hand at different distances from the circuit and connecting wires
of different lengths to the LED strings end terminal, whether the wire is earth grounded or not. Try connecting a long heavier gauge wire
that is not earth grounded and it will probably have a similar effect, even though it is not earth ground at its far end.

P.S. I have attached a picture of some LEDs lighting from a sinewave signal generator through one wire,
with only a short aligator clip lead wire connected to the other end of the LEDs. The LEDs will light a lot brighter
if I touch the end of the short clip lead with my finger, or if I attach a longer wire. When tuned to the right frequency,
the LEDs and short wire are resonating to some extent, causing a current to flow through the LEDs.
Is it energy from the air, or energy from the signal generator? My tests have shown that the input power from the signal generator
is where all the power appears to be coming from.

All the best...

radiant_one

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2015, 02:52:39 AM »
Nice vids Radiant

Apologies everyone - there was an error on the original schematic.

Attached is the corrected circuit diagram. The placement of the diodes on the output is in parallel with LED array. Not in series.
This makes a massive difference because ground energy does not pass through a diode.

I have removed video 2 with circuit diagram and will be reposting a corrected circuit and tuning video 2 this weekend.

 


radiant_one

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2015, 03:13:24 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufTw6ECoz4

The video describing the circuit and tuning has the corrected circuit diagram included. Otherwise much the same as before - excepted added a few video overlays to make it clearer.

No overunity performance is suggested or implied.

Hoppy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4135
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2015, 05:10:24 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufTw6ECoz4

The video describing the circuit and tuning has the corrected circuit diagram included. Otherwise much the same as before - excepted added a few video overlays to make it clearer.

No overunity performance is suggested or implied.

radiant_one,

Do the LED's light without the earth rod and with the LED chain connected directly back to the circuit ground line?

Pirate88179

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 8366
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2015, 07:49:49 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kL8ys8m0-4

Above is my video lighting a 40" floro tube from the ground using no power supply other than the ground.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fV-xjRy3I4

Above is a smaller 18" tube lit the same way from the ground only.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLzdHRovnbo

Above is 200 leds lit from the ground only.  I have since done 400 leds the same way.


Bill

Void

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2333
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2015, 08:05:10 PM »
radiant_one,
Do the LED's light without the earth rod and with the LED chain connected directly back to the circuit ground line?

I have suggested a couple of times that radiant_one try connecting a long heavier gauge wire that is not grounded
at its far end, in place of his ground wire, but radiant_one seems to have just ignored this suggestion so far. I am pretty sure the LEDs
will still light with just a long ungrounded wire attached in place of the ground wire, although maybe not quite as bright as with the grounded wire.
I think it is all a matter of adding a suitable amount of capacitance to the end of the LEDs for the circuit to resonate against. I guess radiant_one won't try it
because he doesn't really want to put his theory about energy from the ground for his circuit to a test that might indicate otherwise. ;)
All the best...
« Last Edit: June 29, 2015, 12:03:10 AM by Void »

radiant_one

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2015, 05:10:19 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LkbYBLM4Dc

This is video 5 in a series which investigates the possibility of  the extraction of energy from the ground. This video investigates aspects of connecting the circuit (see video 2) to the ground.

The video also demonstrates the suggested use of a heavier wire instead of the earth. The other suggestion to try using the power supply negative as a ground creates a direct DC path which quickly damages the components.

fyi - It appears my access to this forum was recently blocked for an extended period (see attached image). If I stop posting here in the future then such blocking may have become permanent.

Void

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2333
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2015, 06:01:47 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LkbYBLM4Dc

This is video 5 in a series which investigates the possibility of  the extraction of energy from the ground. This video investigates aspects of connecting the circuit (see video 2) to the ground.

The video also demonstrates the suggested use of a heavier wire instead of the earth. The other suggestion to try using the power supply negative as a ground creates a direct DC path which quickly damages the components.

fyi - It appears my access to this forum was recently blocked for an extended period (see attached image). If I stop posting here in the future then such blocking may have become permanent.

Hi radiant_one. Don't worry about the permission denied messages from this website. This website has had intermittent issues like that for quite some time.
I was getting the exact same error messages when I tried to connect yesterday. Maybe some administration or maintenance was being
conducted on this website at the time, or the website was just having issues.

Nice video. I would interpret the results a little differently than you, although I am not saying that I think my
interpretation is necessarily all correct, but I have tested with similar setups and based on my measurements the
power being drawn from the supply always appears to account for the amount of power dissipating in the LEDs.

The length of wire you connected in your video was not very long. In my own experiments, the wire gauge doesn't have to
be quite so heavy, but you should extend the virtual ground wire out to a length of about 20 or 30 feet or so to get better
results. I have found that even a 30 or 40 feet or so length of wire rolled up in a roll of about 1 foot diameter will work pretty well
to add a suitable amount of capacitance. As I have shown with my test with two LEDs with one end of the LEDs connected to just a short clip lead,
you can get LEDs to light with very little capacitance attached to them, but connecting to something with higher capacitance
such as a long heavier gauge wire, or a large block of conductive metal, or even when connected to a person's body can
work as well or almost as well as an actual earth ground connection. You may have to adjust the operating frequency to get best results
for a given amount of capacitance attached to the end of the LEDs.

A direct connection to earth ground appears to just provide a higher capacitance than a length of wire or a person's body. Since you are dealing
with an AC signal, as based on my tests there is a degree of resonance occurring, if you put a diode in between the LEDs and your capacitance source
such as a wire or whatever, then it will restrict or reduce the AC resonance occuring between the LED and wire. Resonance is typically an AC phenomenon in regards to
electrical circuits. So there is a different way to interpret what is occurring in the circuit without having to consider energy from the ground.
The fact that the LEDs will light about the same with various types of capacitance added to the end of the LEDs whether earth grounded or not
does seem to indicate that what is happening is not dependent on a direct earth ground connection to gain electrons from the ground or whatever.

All the best...


ATOM1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 151
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2015, 01:45:35 PM »
Its a US GOVERNMENT BACKED FRONT !!! I sent in my unified field oscillator and they sent me an email telling me they had to had it over to there government and now block all my schematics !

WHAT DO WE DO ????

GROUND ENERGY WORKS !!!!

ATOM1

alejandroguille

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 48
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2015, 03:29:32 AM »
Equal this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8GkK1tygQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37BuYMJSDo

output coil works like these.

only this works less voltage.


alejandroguille

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 48
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2015, 04:20:42 AM »
?

radiant_one

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2015, 09:50:12 AM »
Equal this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8GkK1tygQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37BuYMJSDo

output coil works like these.

only this works less voltage.

Thanks for these links. I think the first video is much the same. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz8GkK1tygQ
It's a shame woopyjump did not pursue this further.

GeoFusion

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 449
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2015, 08:09:12 PM »
Hi there,
This is my experimentation on a Ground Dependent device collecting radiant for the system.
there is so much more to be done on this one, so many variants,
Yet a Inductor can be places in series with the blue coil for amplification.
 Simple setup but has a odd yet amazing ways of work but much more has to be Figured out.
Why?
This could be one of the main components of a kapanadze device with spark gap.
the only thing it's missing now is a Ampere Amplifier synced with the pulses of the spark gap.

Take time to watch them all
here are the vids:

vid 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1SP9nMVWec

Vid 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hU5CCBt5k

Vid 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdG4_BkxPI

Enjoy and let me know what you guyz think ;).
Schematics are already made.

Cheerz

radiant_one

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 11
Re: Ground Energy Extraction (GndNrgEx)
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2015, 05:28:46 AM »
Hi there,
This is my experimentation on a Ground Dependent device collecting radiant for the system.
there is so much more to be done on this one, so many variants,
Yet a Inductor can be places in series with the blue coil for amplification.
 Simple setup but has a odd yet amazing ways of work but much more has to be Figured out.
Why?
This could be one of the main components of a kapanadze device with spark gap.
the only thing it's missing now is a Ampere Amplifier synced with the pulses of the spark gap.

Take time to watch them all
here are the vids:

vid 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1SP9nMVWec

Vid 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3hU5CCBt5k

Vid 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdG4_BkxPI

Enjoy and let me know what you guyz think ;).
Schematics are already made.

Cheerz

Thanks for sharing these videos. They were highly relevant to the topic of extracting energy from the ground!

I did a replication of your setup and of course referenced your prior video. See 'Convert HV to mains voltage via water capacitor, double arc and ground wire' 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVIqUlAdYY

I think it is a concept worth developing further. If anyone has been down this road and knows how to ramp this up please comment.

Until then...no overunity performance is suggested or implied.