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Offline fer123

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4200 on: March 16, 2017, 08:04:33 PM »
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« Last Edit: March 17, 2017, 02:15:40 AM by fer123 »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4201 on: March 18, 2017, 12:20:36 AM »
fer123: espero que los videos los publique (iflewmyown) o cualquier otro que lo tenga hecho.
Lo mío es muy rudimental, con muchos cables sueltos (automáticamente se consideraría fake) ya sé que hace años que quieres el video, pero Video en Internet es sinónimo de fake.
Muy contento que sigas en la brecha.
Saludos y salud
PD: no tengo ni idea de ingles y traducciones malas. SORRY


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4202 on: March 18, 2017, 03:25:02 AM »
Ignacio, after many hours I have no positive results. Once on the scope I had a very strange multiple square wave, very high peaks and very narrow duty cycle in short bursts. I have been unable to duplicate it yet. Like the initial ring from a spark gap only square waves + and - . It might be a reflected wave in the iron or NMR. I will do more checking later.
Garry

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4203 on: March 18, 2017, 09:58:39 PM »
mmmmmmmmm improbable


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4204 on: March 18, 2017, 11:13:41 PM »
Gracias Ignacio por reponder, podrias decirme si las bobinas colectoras son de aire o tienen hierro dentro? los electroimanes estan solamente superpuestos o los unes a las bobinas colectoras con hierro por dentro? realmente vistes una generacion de corriente importante? gracias por todo y hare las bobinas y los electroimanes cuando tenga esas pequenias dudas aclaradas.

PD: no esperes que todos te den la razon ya que en estos sitios no sabemos quien es quien ,entiendes. Saludos. :D
Bobinas colectoras; núcleo de doble T de hierro 10cm, y otras de núcleo de hierro de 3cm.
Los electroimanes separados por un plástico (papel) con las colectoras.
Electroimanes; núcleo de hierro laminado (de generador eléctrico)
Saludos y salud

PD: El foro lo lee mucha gente, me interesan los que no creen (escépticos), a algunos les llamara la atención,  les hará razonar, y alguno lo fabricará.
Quedándose como me quede yo, intentando comprender, que esto era real (consiente y subconsciente, luchando entre Sí) aparentemente iba contra los principios de la “Ciencia” que enseñan, ¿qué es la electricidad? ¿de dónde viene la electricidad? ¿Cómo obtenemos electricidad?


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4205 on: April 02, 2017, 10:42:26 PM »
Todo esto me recuerda, a la información que hay del “antiguo Egipto”. Que los egipcios eran tontos, que desconocían los diamantes Ja Ja Ja Ja (es verdad no se han encontrado diamante) Los diamantes los usaban como herramientas, eran o son “muy pequeños”, los extraían de la mirra (árbol Commiphora myrrha).
Seguro que los humanos somos tan tontos, que ocultamos nuestra sabiduría para poder vivir, ¿Que solo es sabiduría la de los extraterrestre o las religiones (hoy políticos, banqueros, científicos, etc.)?
Esto es lo que nos están intentando meter en el coco.
Saludos y salud
PD: PATENTES: Creo recordar. Que EEUU hace algunos años, y a cuenta de la vacuna de la gripe aviar, emitió un comunicado, Que muy resumido, decía; Que si no reciben las suficientes vacunas para su población, fabricarían la vacuna ellos mismos, POR MUCHA PATENTES QUE TUBIERAN...
Así que las patentes se dan, para que lo patentado sea utilizado, y si no fuese utilizado, lo podrá fabricar quien quiera, y darle el debido uso…
PD: Traductor google:
 All this reminds me, to the information that exists of the "ancient Egypt". Diamonds used them as tools, were or are "very small", extracted from the myrrh (tree Commiphora myrrha).
Surely we humans are so dumb, that we hide our wisdom to live, that is only the wisdom of aliens or religions (today politicians, bankers, scientists, etc.)?
This is what we are trying to get into the coconut.
Greetings and health
PS: PATENTS: I think I remember. That the US a few years ago, and on account of the bird flu vaccine, issued a statement, which very summarized, he said; That if they did not get enough vaccines for their population, they would make the vaccine themselves, FOR LOTS OF PATENTS THAT TUBED.
So patents are given, so that the patented is used, and if not used, you can manufacture who wants, and give it the proper use ...

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4206 on: April 04, 2017, 11:10:11 PM »
Hola Ignacio, me parecio buena idea la de separar con diodos asi eliminas las partes moviles, lo puse en practica hice una pequena prueba con un nucleo de flyback y 6 bobinas.
Cada bobina tiene 260 vueltas de alambre calibre 30 y 6.5 ohms cada una. Conecte todo segun tu diagrama, las 4 bobinas colectoras las puse en serie: 2 en los extremos y 2 en el centro como si fuera una pero mas grande que las de los lados.
Lo alimente con un transformador con salida de 14v y use un medidor de watts para rastrear el consumo. Lo conecte sin carga y la lectura fue de 14.7watts, en seguida le conecte un foco de microondas como carga (65ohms), buena sorpresa, el consumo bajo hasta 12.3watts.
Creo que la reaccion Lenz debido a la carga se esta retroalimentando de manera positiva en la bobina primaria o electroiman que se encuentra apagada en ese momento.
Hacen falta mas pruebas y algunos calculos. Algunas preguntas si me lo permites Ignacio, como tienes conectadas tus bobinas colectoras? en serie? Hay alguna confuguracion para maximizar el efecto?

Un saludo.


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Hello Ignacio, I thought it was a good idea to separate with diodes so you eliminate the mobile parts, I put it into practice I did a little test with a flyback core and 6 coils.
Each coil has 260 turns of 30 gauge wire and 6.5 ohms each. I connected everything according to your diagram, I connected the 4 collector coils in serie: 2 at the ends and 2 in the center as if one but larger than those at the sides.
I feed it with a transformer with 14v output and use a watt meter to track it. Plug it in without charging and the reading was 14.7watts, then I pluged a microwave bulb as load (65ohms), good surprise, reading went to 12.3watts.
I think that the Lenz reaction due to the load is being positively induced in the primary coil or electromagnet that is currently off.
More tests and some calculations are needed. Some questions if you allow me Ignacio, how you have connected your collector coils? serie? Is there any confuguracion to maximize the effect?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4207 on: April 04, 2017, 11:59:24 PM »
charly2: ahora alimenta las inductoras con > 36 voltios 0.4 amperios (mejor 220voltios, 0,06amperios), manteniendo los 14 vatios, de consumo,  ok
Las colectoras:
1º las interiores tienen el doble de electricidad que las exteriores, una interior = 2 exteriores. Una interior 20 voltios, una exterior 10 voltios.
2º si quiero obtener 220 voltios, “” y cada bobina colectora te da 220 voltios, conectas en paralelo, “” y si cada bobina colectora, produce 22 voltios, pues tengo que poner 10 colectoras en serie.
Las respuestas te la darán los ensayos.
Saludos y salud
Traductor google: :-\
Charly2: now powers the inductors with> 36 volts 0.4 amps (better 220 volts, 0.06 amps), keeping the 14 watts, consumption, ok
The collectors:
1º the interiors have the double of electricity that the exteriors, an interior = 2 exteriors. An interior 20 volts, an exterior 10 volts.
2 ° if I want to get 220 volts, and each collector coil gives you 220 volts, connect in parallel, and if each collector coil produces 22 volts, I have to put 10 collectors in series.
The answers will give you the tests.
Greetings and health
PD:
Recuerda, el consumo de los altavoces, si no los quieres quemar, se puede usar la diferencia de potencial (6,  50, 220, voltios) que quieras, pero los amperios están directamente relacionados, con la potencia, y bobinados. Hay que regular el amperaje;
si altavoces 100 vatios y 8 ohmios:
100w <-== 6 voltios * 16,66 amperios == 50 voltios * 2 amperios == 220 voltios * 0,45 amperios
Remember, the consumption of the speakers, if you do not want to burn them, you can use the potential difference (6, 50, 220, volts) you want, but the amps are directly related, with power, and windings. The amperage must be regulated; If speakers 100 watts and 8 ohms:
100w < 6 volts * 16.66 amps = 50 volts * 2 amps 220 volts * 0.45 amps

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4208 on: April 05, 2017, 05:14:24 PM »
Gracias por tu respuesta, este proximo fin de semana le dedicare algo de tiempo en pruebas para tratar de aclarar en mi mente lo que esta pasando.
Sin embargo las bobinas son muy pequeñas y tienen una inductancia muy baja y siento que no me estan ayudando con el consumo en vacio o sin carga, tratare de corregir un poco la impedancia en los 2 electroimanes ya sea con algun capacitor o aumentando las vueltas.
Ademas el nucleo de ferrita que tengo se puede considerar practicamente como una sola pieza sin espacios entre las bobinas, creo que eso tambien debe afectar algo ya que la corriente Lenz inducida por la carga en la salida va en sentido contrario al del electroiman encendido en ese momento y si todo esta acoplado magneticamente por el nucleo claramente hay un choque de polaridades magneticas en el nucleo que resta eficiencia.... eso creo...

Saludos

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Thanks for your answer, this weekend I will spend some time in tests in order to try to clarify in my mind what is happening.
However the coils are very small and have a very low inductance and I feel that they are not helping me with the consumption without load, I will try to correct a little the impedance in the 2 electromagnets either with some capacitor or increasing the number of turns.
In addition the ferrite core that I have can be considered practically as a single piece without spaces between the coils, I believe that this must also affect something since the Lenz current induced by the load at the output goes in the opposite direction of the electromagnet firing in that moment and if everything is magnetically coupled by the core clearly there is a crash of magnetic polarities that lowers the efficiency .... I guess ...
regards

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4209 on: April 05, 2017, 11:48:19 PM »
charly2: veo que lo tienes bastante claro.
Circuito resonante, condensador bobina, paralelo serie, buena imaginación, idea buena. Condensador en la salida de las colectoras (nivelar carga)  consumo.
Intenta los núcleos de las bobinas colectoras, aislarlos de las bobinas inductoras.
Como  he explicado; yo uso, vaso lleno de agua con dos electrodos dentro, así  regulo el amperaje (mas separado - menos amperios, mas juntos - mas amperios) Dándome además, que no retorne más  electricidad a la entrada de alimentación.
SD:: Cada bobina tiene 260 vueltas de alambre calibre 30 y 6.5 ohms cada una>> “Yo” las inductoras, les daría solo con 40 o 60 vueltas, 1 a 1,5 ohms. Las colectoras correcto, 260 vueltas 30 y 6,5 ohms.
AWG 30 – 0,20 amperios, si tienes “ 4 colectoras” 2 interiores con X voltios y 2 exteriores con 2 ½ X voltios = 3X voltios;;; En serie 3X voltios y 0,20 amperios. En paralelo 1X voltios y 0,60 amperios. ¿OK?
Saludos y salud
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Charly2: I see you have it quite clear.
Resonant circuit, capacitor coil, parallel series, good imagination, good idea. Condenser at the outlet of the collectors (leveling load) consumption.
Try the cores of the collector coils, isolate them from the inductor coils.
As I explained; I use, full glass of water with two electrodes inside, so I regulate the amperage (more separated - less amps, more together - more amps) Also give me no more electricity to return to the power supply.
SD :: Each coil has 260 turns of 30 gauge wire and 6.5 ohms each >> "I" the inductors, I would give them only with 40 or 60 turns, 1 to 1.5 ohms. The correct collectors, 260 turns 30 and 6.5 ohms.
AWG 30 - 0.20 amps, if you have "4 collectors" 2 interiors with X volts and 2 exteriors with 2 ½ X volts = 3X volts; In series 3X volts and 0.20 amps. In parallel 1X volts and 0.60 amps. OKAY?
Greetings and health

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Total deviation from the Figuera device thus becomes NOT the Figuera device.
imagine that.

MM

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4211 on: September 04, 2017, 10:59:33 PM »
Yes, it's super darn easy to drift away from the original circuit.  In my case I tried to make this exactly how Mr. Figuera did it but using today's semiconductors [/size]components instead of mechanical switches.   I am convinced would be much better making this full electronic version rather than[/size] using reed switches, but it was my firs try and turn out to be quite in  interesting.  See the short video that I made here.  https://youtu.be/8fdrZoI2E_4?t=172


The circuit looks simple but it's totally mind twister! 


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4212 on: September 04, 2017, 11:25:49 PM »
Hi Mem,

That is an interesting circuit you have designed.  However there is one mistake in the 555 PWM circuit.  One of the 1N4148 diodes needs to be flipped over.  I found the same circuit you are showing with the same mistake.  After you flip one of the diodes then you can get a full range of 5% to 95% motor speed.

I was also wondering if the mosfets get hot with your circuit.  They usually like to be fully on or off.  Running them partly on usually makes them get pretty warm or hot.

Carroll

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« Reply #4213 on: September 04, 2017, 11:33:54 PM »
Carroll,
Thanks for point out that error.

What I din't say in my above post and the circuit: I didn't really used that circuit myself, I just copied and pasted in the circuit drawing for educational purpose only.  I am sorry I didn't say that earlier. The circuit that I used on the video, was off the shelve PWM from Ebay.  The circuit is quite limited, but it does demonstrate some very interesting effect  which I don't really know  how it works.

"I was also wondering if the mosfets get hot with your circuit.  They usually like to be fully on or off.  Running them partly on usually makes them get pretty warm or hot."

No heat so far at all. But, I did use quite a large heat-sinks or else I am sure mosfets would heat up real quick. 





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« Reply #4214 on: September 04, 2017, 11:40:33 PM »
No problem.

 I probably wouldn't have caught the mistake except I have used that circuit and it works very well for a simple PWM as long as you correct that one mistake.


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