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Author Topic: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!  (Read 12144 times)

Offline forest

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2015, 06:59:29 PM »
Would it be too hard to experimental prove if there is EM radiation in this case ? Do you know any scientific papers of such experiment ?

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Offline tinman

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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2015, 07:33:49 PM »
Would it be too hard to experimental prove if there is EM radiation in this case ? Do you know any scientific papers of such experiment ?
There is no EM losses or any other losses-->the !/2 charge that seems to be missing is still in the cap. The electrons dont just go zipping of into the sky,or get radiated as heat-the electron flow is what creates the heat. The higher the restriction to this flow,the more heat is generated-electrical flow friction.

When you charge a cap or a battery,your charging source is nothing more than a pump. This pump is what pumps the electrons from the positive plate,back to the negative plate. When there is no voltage across the cap,you havnt used the charge,you have simply provided a path for the electrons to flow to the positive plate. This is the very same as the water in the two tanks wanting to reach an equilibrium-->the charge is still in the caps. The problem is,there is now no potential difference between the two charged plates.


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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2015, 07:47:43 AM »
Would it be too hard to experimental prove if there is EM radiation in this case ? Do you know any scientific papers of such experiment ?
Maxwell's equations tell us that any rate of change of current through a circuit radiates E/M energy.  Experiments go back to the 1800's.  Everyday thousands of engineers conduct these experiments in EMC labs doing what they need to to reduce the radiation to acceptable levels.

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2015, 02:46:32 PM »
Beginners should also note that the capacitor holds no extra electrons when charged than it did when discharged. 
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 02:04:42 AM by pomodoro »


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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 03:30:51 PM »
Beginners should also note that the capacitor hold no extra electrons when charged than it did when discharged.
Spot on ;)

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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2015, 03:30:51 PM »
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Offline mr2

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2015, 11:44:19 PM »
This was fun.

People who knows what they are talking about.

Have you tested it live? Nope, you have formulas!
Hence the truth.. Stupid...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Bj_V0acAo
This explains the theory. But sorry, in Norwegian..

1F, 11V. 1000uF capacitor as drive-capacitor.
First tests: 11V, each pulse 1000uF: about 660 pulses.

With my change of same components, but charging the capacitor via the electromagnet;
The time charging the capacitor is used to run the motor. The loss of time is adjusted to the time to charge and discharge the capacitor.
980 pulses and a much higher voltage and therefore highter restvalue of energy.

Same energy when starting, same energy per pulse.. and a closed circuit..

They say: Where did the half of the energy go? And all proof is math. But electrons have no other way to go, but via copper wires.

Yet another test comparing a "state of the art" motor from any shop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYfE_qjf4jo

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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2015, 11:50:12 PM »
... AND it works on any motor the method is connected to..

So; if it have been explained as "radiation" or all other stupid explanations, it would not work, since half of the energy is wasted when charging and discharge a capacitor.
It is prooved by several tests; both homemade motor, and commercial motors that it actually work..

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Offline mr2

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2015, 11:54:14 PM »
Maxwell's equations tell us that any rate of change of current through a circuit radiates E/M energy.  Experiments go back to the 1800's.  Everyday thousands of engineers conduct these experiments in EMC labs doing what they need to to reduce the radiation to acceptable levels.

Fun... Protecting the statements by talking about old experiments with components from that time.. And have the knowledge just by reading it..

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2015, 12:04:16 AM »
There is no EM losses or any other losses-->the !/2 charge that seems to be missing is still in the cap. The electrons dont just go zipping of into the sky,or get radiated as heat-the electron flow is what creates the heat. The higher the restriction to this flow,the more heat is generated-electrical flow friction.

When you charge a cap or a battery,your charging source is nothing more than a pump. This pump is what pumps the electrons from the positive plate,back to the negative plate. When there is no voltage across the cap,you havnt used the charge,you have simply provided a path for the electrons to flow to the positive plate. This is the very same as the water in the two tanks wanting to reach an equilibrium-->the charge is still in the caps. The problem is,there is now no potential difference between the two charged plates.

You have understood it!

When charging a capacitor you have only the loss of time, a time represented by R.
If you then have a motor running at 1000 RPM, there is x cm between the magnets, you have a Y ms time between the magnets.
You then have to calculate the size of capacitor that have at least 87% the time of charge and discharge.

Then you have like a "AC signal" on the oscilloscope because of LC.

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2015, 12:40:54 AM »
mr2, what sort of overall efficiency have you measured?
All the best...



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Offline ATOM1

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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2015, 04:29:03 AM »
The quantum effects of electron coherence in an alignment of high harmonic resistance over a point of charge and discharge can fall out off the ohms law and into a new law and one where time it self creates energy  ! To many time we use the water bucket to measure with ! Our minds are moulded to an old way of thinking . We forget the universe was made from nothing and time these two components hardly ever are included ????????

I have had many experiments over the years that show a time delay as the cause of an OU result but not with normal resisters or standard set ups for cap banks ! I all ways use harmonics in the formulas and low to high resistance and now square laws to convert micro farads into electron capacitance .. To me if the point of the beginning of the universe was smaller than an electron than even a capacitor can store many times its normal power.

quantum events of strangeness is what I look for and totally avoid all other research ! Christ feed 500 people from one small basket and I have to say it does seem possible to do the same with a capacitor ....

An electron is a strange thing it is never in the same place its always hoping in and out of time and space , This it self is something beyond the normal rules for electrical mathematics ,  to many times push and pull the electron around but when we let it jump in the way it likes to move than sometimes we get far more than we expected .....

From nothing came everything , but what if everything is a lot less than what we expected and there is only one electron in the universe and being shared , it would fit its quantum profile and is in more than one way possible.... We  also tend to think we know it all done it all and expect the same out come every time we do something yet there is other avenues to explore where there are rewards beyond our imagination..........

Look again

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Offline mr2

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2016, 12:14:44 AM »
Sorry.. I forgot about this thread.

ATOM1 is wasted. Quantum effects of what?

You have a "battery" bucket with 100 L water.
Your "resistor" is a hose with diameter 2 cm.
Your capacitor is a bucket with capacity 2 L.

You will always have the 100 liters as the start... the hose will restrict the flow. The "capacitor" will ONLY contain 2L at max. Then the flow will stop.
If you have a impeller in the hose, you produce energy. ALWAYS the same amount of water to fill the "capacitor".

When you then use the water in the "capacitor" to flow thru the same hose, you make the same energy again, with the same water, the same volume, and the same energy as when the "capacitor" is charged.
Hence; 2L water have passed a generator, making double energy.

Some say; You loose energy when charging a capacitor.
No.
You have a closed circuit. Charging a 2Watt capacitor, is using the 2W. Not 3... not 4. Because; How would the extra watts pass the capacitor max capacity?



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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2016, 03:09:24 AM »
About capacitors and the loss of energy charging it (the capacitor paradox)
You charge a 1W capacitor. The electrons goes from the negative of battery, to negative of capacitor.
The capacitor send 1W of electrons from the positive side of the capacitor to the battery.

Battery have lost 1W. The capacitor have 1W at the positive side, and -1W at the negative side making the difference 2W.
That will be the rated level of this capacitor of 2W.
Half the energy would be "lost".

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2016, 08:31:47 AM »
Capacitors are not rated in Watts and neither are batteries. The Watt is NOT a unit of energy, it is a unit of POWER. You must understand the difference. A Watt is one Joule of energy per second. That is, one Joule of ENERGY passing your point of measurement in one second. If you have that same one Joule of energy passing your measurement point in 0.1 second, you have 10 Watts of power. If it passes in 0.01 second, you have 100 Watts of power. One Joule of energy can represent megawatts of power if it happens in a short enough time interval (a microsecond or less).

A Joule, on the other hand, is one Watt-second. One Watt of power, sustained for a period of one second, requires one Joule of energy. And so on.

Voltage is not energy, current is not energy, power is not energy. Only _energy_ is the conserved quantity among these variables.


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Re: MY PATENTED DEVICE DOES NOT WORK!
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2016, 12:28:01 PM »
The quantum effects of electron coherence in an alignment of high harmonic resistance over a point of charge and discharge can fall out off the ohms law and into a new law and one where time it self creates energy  ! To many time we use the water bucket to measure with ! Our minds are moulded to an old way of thinking . We forget the universe was made from nothing and time these two components hardly ever are included ??? ??? ??

I have had many experiments over the years that show a time delay as the cause of an OU result but not with normal resisters or standard set ups for cap banks ! I all ways use harmonics in the formulas and low to high resistance and now square laws to convert micro farads into electron capacitance .. To me if the point of the beginning of the universe was smaller than an electron than even a capacitor can store many times its normal power.

quantum events of strangeness is what I look for and totally avoid all other research ! Christ feed 500 people from one small basket and I have to say it does seem possible to do the same with a capacitor ....

An electron is a strange thing it is never in the same place its always hoping in and out of time and space , This it self is something beyond the normal rules for electrical mathematics ,  to many times push and pull the electron around but when we let it jump in the way it likes to move than sometimes we get far more than we expected .....

From nothing came everything , but what if everything is a lot less than what we expected and there is only one electron in the universe and being shared , it would fit its quantum profile and is in more than one way possible.... We  also tend to think we know it all done it all and expect the same out come every time we do something yet there is other avenues to explore where there are rewards beyond our imagination..........

Look again

ATOM1

     

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2nI_3VBEtA

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