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Author Topic: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.  (Read 22286 times)

Offline FatBird

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-----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« on: March 06, 2015, 05:22:45 PM »
New Post of Free Juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgz_m76rN0M
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Offline webby1

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2015, 07:12:57 PM »
Hi FatBird,,

You could ask this better than me,, and I don"t care enough to reach out to them,,

Could they run that test again, exactly the same,, but without plugging in the fan,, or at least to cut the wires they have going into the base of the fan,,


Offline MarkE

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2015, 07:19:12 PM »
Wasif's fake presentations were thoroughly debunked when first published.  Why bring them back now?

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2015, 07:57:51 PM »
Fatbird
Is this fellow doing more Demonstrations ?


@Mark E
by fake presentations being thoroughly debunked you mean someone actually did an onsite investigation?


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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 08:49:21 PM »
Fatbird
Is this fellow doing more Demonstrations ?


@Mark E
by fake presentations being thoroughly debunked you mean someone actually did an onsite investigation?
The presentations were so bad that Wasif's fakery was obvious in his hapless videos.

Speaking of fakes:  What is your position now that GDS admits on their web site that water cannot power their:  "water powered generator"?

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2015, 08:49:21 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2015, 09:14:07 PM »
@ramset:
Don't you remember my analysis of the early video, where he showed a spring coupling the "Magnet motor" to the "Generator" ? The spring that _tightened up_ when the thing was in operation, showing unequivocally that the "Generator" was actually driving the "Magnet motor" rather than the other way around ?


Offline ramset

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2015, 09:21:39 PM »
Mark E
So do you offer a discount for Crystal ball or remote viewing
unsolicited evaluations ? is that sort of like Dowsing ..
an acquired skill where you can sentence a man from afar
with out ever having spoken or corresponded in any way
whatsoever...!


I don't share your Faith ,I would like to see if Wasif has more to add ?
if not ..?
So be it


Water as fuel.....Water as Fuel ..
has a nice ring to it.


One of your very good friends will be rubbing Errhh sharing something along those
lines very shortly.
as far as GDS is concerned I understand that working with investors is something
which you do for a living ,Odd to hang around an Open source forum RELENTLESSLY soliciting interest in these GDS type things ,I thought "Ninks" position Odd also [makes his fortune helping inventors get patents]

I suppose its just another day at work???

But as inappropriate as I might feel all this behavior is in an open source forum
{do to the obvious stifling effect it would have on sharing amoungst wolves]


your right, its a public place and if people come here to take and run..
not much we can do about that..it is after all open source ,or as Armcortex would
say "a suckers" forum.


gives a nice warm fuzzy feeling



Chet
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Yes Tinsel I do remember seeing that and it does Jump right in your face,however
I asked FatBird if there was more info on this??
the shakey dance his rig makes when getting the load is interesting to me.
But to be clear I'm not endorsing this claim ,just curious if the inventor is
sharing more of his work?

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2015, 09:56:42 PM »
New Post of Free Juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgz_m76rN0M
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Not new at all. Posted to YouTube a year ago.

Offline MarkE

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2015, 10:48:46 PM »
Mark E
So do you offer a discount for Crystal ball or remote viewing
unsolicited evaluations ?
LOL, I offer opinions based on what I observe. And I, like many others observed far more than enough in Wasif Kaloon's hapless videos to determine that his claims were false.
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 is that sort of like Dowsing ..
an acquired skill where you can sentence a man from afar
with out ever having spoken or corresponded in any way
whatsoever...!
Here you suggest that no observations were made.  Such a suggestion is wrong.
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I don't share your Faith ,I would like to see if Wasif has more to add ?
if not ..?
So be it
Wasif haplessly attempted to defend his first video by publishing additional bad fakery.
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Water as fuel.....Water as Fuel ..
has a nice ring to it.
Too bad it doesn't have any reality to it.
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One of your very good friends will be rubbing Errhh sharing something along those
lines very shortly.
Yes, that is the siren song of fools and scammers:  "Tomorrow, tomorrow, my miracle will work tomorrow..."
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as far as GDS is concerned I understand that working with investors is something
which you do for a living ,Odd to hang around an Open source forum RELENTLESSLY soliciting interest in these GDS type things ,I thought "Ninks" position Odd also [makes his fortune helping inventors get patents]

I suppose its just another day at work???
Trying to cast aspersions on me does not answer the question Chet.  Now that GDS admits that water cannot power their generator, what do you think about their prior claims that they possessed and were offering for sale a:  "water powered generator"?  What do you think about that particularly in light of the fact that they have shown nothing that actually works months after they claimed to possess at least ten working units, and months after they claimed they would have volume inventory on hand for sale?
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But as inappropriate as I might feel all this behavior is in an open source forum
{do to the obvious stifling effect it would have on sharing amoungst wolves]


your right, its a public place and if people come here to take and run..
not much we can do about that..it is after all open source ,or as Armcortex would
say "a suckers" forum.


gives a nice warm fuzzy feeling



Chet
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Yes Tinsel I do remember seeing that and it does Jump right in your face,however
I asked FatBird if there was more info on this??
the shakey dance his rig makes when getting the load is interesting to me.
But to be clear I'm not endorsing this claim ,just curious if the inventor is
sharing more of his work?
You mean more of his BS claims.

Offline ramset

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2015, 11:44:50 PM »
Mark E
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 fake presentations being thoroughly debunked
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No Mark E I just wanted to understand what type of investigations your investor customers should expect for your 10 percent fee.


I actually thought you must have at least spoken with the inventor
or seen the device in person....maybe pulled out a meter or two ??


none of the above...and we get "" fake presentations thoroughly debunked ""


perhaps the quality issue is reflected in the "freebee" status


Okey Dokey then.....

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
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Offline MarkE

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2015, 11:56:02 PM »
Mark E
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 fake presentations being thoroughly debunked
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No Mark E I just wanted to understand what type of investigations your investor customers should expect for your 10 percent fee.


I actually thought you must have at least spoken with the inventor
or seen the device in person....maybe pulled out a meter or two ??
In the case of the hapless fakes put forth by Wasif Kaloon no such actions were necessary to establish his fakery.
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none of the above...and we get "" fake presentations thoroughly debunked ""
That's right because Wasif himself put ample evidence in the video.
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perhaps the quality issue is reflected in the "freebee" status


Okey Dokey then.....

Offline MileHigh

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2015, 12:14:06 AM »
Who read comic books in the 1960s?

When's the last time you saw a commercially-bought standing fan where the power cord was amateurishly attached to the motor?

When is the last time you saw an "instant on" motor generator with near-instantaneous overcoming of the rotational inertia of the setup?

Offline ramset

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2015, 12:35:50 AM »
Well
I suppose since you like to talk..we should chat some more ..
See i have an opinion here,it has to do with Boundaries and where some men
will go and others won't .


 Integrity and character ..men that would Judge and condemn so frivolously
usually carry this trait over to other aspects of their lives ,its an entitlement of sorts
they feel entitled to this _privilege_


No way Wasif is gonna be able to retort ,he's some poor fellow in India or Pakistan
I can treat him as I please .
sort of the same way similar men treat the Passive Christian with Taunts and
snickers yet would surely think thrice about similar treatment of Allah.


a persons actions give us clues to their character ,and integrity ..the standards they use to measure their fellow man can usually be reflected throughout there lives.


And here we find ourselves on an open source forum ,in your case pretty much 24/7
you being a man that works hand in hand with investors.

and here [hypothetically] we suddenly have some "Kid" sharing what could be an OU device
or circuit with potential..
like taking Candy from a baby.....Huh ?


How else should we measure you Mark E??
should we judge you by your Look??
a feel?
intuition??


Judgement should not be thrown around so frivolously ..
men have their rights to proper investigation..if they refuse [GDS]
or give other reason..perhaps then we can have opinions .but they should
never be so final with out proper investigation ...


 

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 01:14:45 AM »
Well
I suppose since you like to talk..we should chat some more ..
See i have an opinion here,it has to do with Boundaries and where some men
will go and others won't .


 Integrity and character ..men that would Judge and condemn so frivolously
usually carry this trait over to other aspects of their lives ,its an entitlement of sorts
they feel entitled to this _privilege_
Gee, you dismiss the debunks that took place a year ago and yet you offer not one single cogent criticism of those analyses.  So it would seem it is you who if capriciously condemning without evaluating evidence.  Go ahead Chet put forward your best arguments for Wasif Kaloon's claims and then go compare those arguments to the one year old discussion.  You'll do that because you are a person of "integrity and character" won't you?  Or will you just bleat on about how you are unable to evaluate Kaloon's blatant and obvious fakery without ever discussing the observations that were discussed at length?
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No way Wasif is gonna be able to retort ,he's some poor fellow in India or Pakistan
I can treat him as I please .
sort of the same way similar men treat the Passive Christian with Taunts and
snickers yet would surely think thrice about similar treatment of Allah.
You're off in the bushes there Chet.  Kaloon's scam was debunked using his own best evidence.  The only person pitching faith and belief in fantastical things here is you.
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a persons actions give us clues to their character ,and integrity ..the standards they use to measure their fellow man can usually be reflected throughout there lives.
They certainly do.  You might want to hold a mirror up to yourself and evaluate your own behavior. 
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And here we find ourselves on an open source forum ,in your case pretty much 24/7
and here we have suddenly some "Kid" sharing what could be an OU device
or circuit with potential..
No, we find some person promoting his scam and you offering support for that scam despite the overwhelming evidence that has already exposed it for what it is.
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like taking Candy from a baby.....Huh ?
When it comes to extraordinary claims, the odds are against them.  One could easily simply declare them all to be false without bothering to consider the claims or evidence and still have a very high probability of being correct.  However, that is not what has happened here.  What has happened is that the claimant put forth their best evidence and that evidence refuted their claims.  For reasons of your own, you have chosen to ignore those analyses and instead suggest that this debunked scam may actually be a working free energy machine.
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How else should we measure you Mark E??
should we judge you by your Look??
a feel?
intuition??
Judge me as you should judge anyone else:  by how my actions and speech comport with reality.  You can apply a similar yard stick to yourself and see how you fare.
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Judgement should not be thrown around so frivolously ..
men have their rights to proper investigation..if they refuse [GDS]
or give other reason..perhaps then we can have opinions .but they should
never be so final with out proper investigation ...
And yet you freely judge me and others here negatively when we have taken the time and effort to examine and debunk the stupid and obvious scams that you continue to support.  Do you think that there is honor in promoting crooks?

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Re: -----> Magnet Motor Drives Generator for FREE JUICE.
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2015, 01:33:21 AM »
I support a mans right to a fair investigation prior to calling him a thief
or a crook.
I support nothing more nothing less.


if you wish to call it the right to a fair trial .so be it.
anything else is unacceptable.


if you start to Mix the garbage of assumption or speculation into an investigation
you get out what you put in... garbage .


and if you convict a man in absentia with no actual facts to back up your claim
at the very least you are unfair and at the very most criminal.


you give no thought to this type behavior and it shows how truly thoughtless you can be. for such policies have lead to very horrible consequences in our world.


have a good night! 8)

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