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Author Topic: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment  (Read 23146 times)

Offline shylo

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2015, 09:34:17 PM »
There must be 2 different videos' The one I watched , The guy just lets go of the ball.
No bowling at all.
artv

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2015, 09:34:17 PM »

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2015, 03:39:18 AM »
There must be 2 different videos' The one I watched , The guy just lets go of the ball.
No bowling at all.
artv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG8zRbXQ-mQ

This one right here.  Mr. Hand is inputting a large amount of energy to the ball to get it in the first gate.  He "flicks' it thereby inputting energy that the ball would not have if you "blew" on it.  Even though, blowing on the ball also adds energy, just not as much as his flick.

Perhaps I should have said "playing marbles" (flicking) and not bowling?  There is no way in this video link that he is just "placing" that ball.  Look at it closely.

Also, it was Smokey I believe that said this was TK and not you, so, ignore that part of my earlier post.

Thanks,

Bill


Offline Floor

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2015, 06:07:07 PM »
More information on floors experiment.

find the attached PDF file below

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2015, 09:01:06 PM »
@Pirate88179

What and which videos on this topic are you referring to ?

Because there are NO VIDEOS under the topic which I presented, nor are
the videos here of or about the project which this topic is about. 

The only videos, here are of some other kind of magnet ramps (not mine)

Along with what seem to me to be disparaging comments and observations,
that are well off topic, because they are about a differnt ramp setup.

Was this Intentionally done, or would you like to clear that up for me ?

What's up you get stuck as hall monitor today ?
Got your coffee and doughnuts ?
Or what?


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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2015, 04:48:44 AM »
@Pirate88179

What and which videos on this topic are you referring to ?

Because there are NO VIDEOS under the topic which I presented, nor are
the videos here of or about the project which this topic is about. 

The only videos, here are of some other kind of magnet ramps (not mine)

Along with what seem to me to be disparaging comments and observations,
that are well off topic, because they are about a differnt ramp setup.

Was this Intentionally done, or would you like to clear that up for me ?

What's up you get stuck as hall monitor today ?
Got your coffee and doughnuts ?
Or what?


                    floor

I was responding to the video link that smokey posted, and others had commented on.  (See the link in my above post)

Yes, I intentionally responded to a video link that smokey posted and folks were discussing on this thread.  Please show me where I posted that this was your video?

That would really clear things up for me.  Oh wait, you can't because I never posted that.

Please try reading my posts prior to attempting to respond to them.  It will make things much easier for you, and everyone else.

Thank you,

Bill

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2015, 04:48:44 AM »
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Offline Floor

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2015, 09:02:46 PM »
@Pirate88179

Qoute from MarkE on january 31,2015,11:15:36 PM
“When you manage that minor detail of returning the ball to its starting
position without expending external energy, do let us know.”  End Quote

                                             Your responce to MarkE was

Quote from Pirate88179 “Aww come on Mark...we have to count external energy? (Mr. Hand)
That will make it even harder to do then.”  End Quote

                                No videos had been posted at this time.
              I won't ask as to what you wanted to imply with your statement.

                                  Below are your comments on the videos
                                  that were posted
                 ( Not my device, although it would easily appear to be
                 so for any one that just came into the topic)
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179  “He says in the annotation that all you need
to do is blow on the ball to get it in the gate...or something to that effect,
yet, he rolls the ball as if he were in a mini bowling alley.  I submit that
with that much input energy, he could have the ball go even further if
there were no magnets there at all.  He is deluding himself. “ End Quote
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179
“TK?

I was talking about the guy in the video posted just above that says..."Gotcha"
at the end.  That was not TK.  This guy tosses the ball into the gates like he is
bowling...I have watched it like 5 times now.

What video of TK are you talking about? “ End Quote
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179
“This one right here. Mr. Hand is inputting a large amount of
energy to the ball to get it in the first gate. He "flicks' it thereby
inputting energy that the ball would not have if you "blew" on it.
Even though, blowing on the ball also adds energy, just not as much as his flick.

Perhaps I should have said "playing marbles" (flicking) and not bowling?
There is no way in this video link that he is just "placing" that ball.  Look at it closely.

Also, it was Smokey I believe that said this was TK and not you,
so, ignore that part of my earlier post. “ End Quote
...................................

Thank you for clearing that up
                    floor

Offline shylo

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2015, 11:17:07 PM »
My eyes must be worse than what I thought.
All I see in the video is, the person placing the ball and releasing it.
I see no flick , no toss , just placement and release.
It doesn't mean that the track is not running down hill, causing run.
artv

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2015, 11:17:07 PM »
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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2015, 01:46:25 AM »
@Pirate88179

Qoute from MarkE on january 31,2015,11:15:36 PM
“When you manage that minor detail of returning the ball to its starting
position without expending external energy, do let us know.”  End Quote

                                             Your responce to MarkE was

Quote from Pirate88179 “Aww come on Mark...we have to count external energy? (Mr. Hand)
That will make it even harder to do then.”  End Quote

                                No videos had been posted at this time.
              I won't ask as to what you wanted to imply with your statement.

                                  Below are your comments on the videos
                                  that were posted
                 ( Not my device, although it would easily appear to be
                 so for any one that just came into the topic)
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179  “He says in the annotation that all you need
to do is blow on the ball to get it in the gate...or something to that effect,
yet, he rolls the ball as if he were in a mini bowling alley.  I submit that
with that much input energy, he could have the ball go even further if
there were no magnets there at all.  He is deluding himself. “ End Quote
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179
“TK?

I was talking about the guy in the video posted just above that says..."Gotcha"
at the end.  That was not TK.  This guy tosses the ball into the gates like he is
bowling...I have watched it like 5 times now.

What video of TK are you talking about? “ End Quote
.....................................

Quote from Pirate88179
“This one right here. Mr. Hand is inputting a large amount of
energy to the ball to get it in the first gate. He "flicks' it thereby
inputting energy that the ball would not have if you "blew" on it.
Even though, blowing on the ball also adds energy, just not as much as his flick.

Perhaps I should have said "playing marbles" (flicking) and not bowling?
There is no way in this video link that he is just "placing" that ball.  Look at it closely.

Also, it was Smokey I believe that said this was TK and not you,
so, ignore that part of my earlier post. “ End Quote
...................................

Thank you for clearing that up
                    floor

Thanks for saving me from copying and pasting all of that.

Now, please point out where I say that the video smokey posted a link to is a video of your device?

Thanks for clearing this up.

Bill

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2015, 05:18:18 PM »
@Pirate88179

All I  have been asking for is the courtesy of you stating
that the devices / demonstrations  in the videos (which you
have taken the time to disparaged with your comments, quoted above)
are not of the device I have presented.  This, for my benefit,  in that other readers
coming into the topic wont be so likely to think the topic is of those
s.m.o.t.s in the videos.

I think it is clear at this point, that there are in fact no videos of the device I
am presenting here in this topic, but only drawings and texts.

@ other readers

Re-presented below are the materials of the topic.

Mag Ramp for the record.pdf  (An over view of the idea )
Mag Ramp Shear.pdf  (additional and general info.)
Mag Ramp 7.pdf (specifics as drawings etc.-- nothing has been added )
Notes Mag Ramp 7.pdf
Next Ramp.pdf

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2015, 05:20:13 PM »
Last 2 files

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« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2015, 05:20:13 PM »
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Offline shylo

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #55 on: April 04, 2015, 02:35:40 AM »
Hi Floor , I think shear uses just as much as pulling them directly apart.
Shear just spreads it out.
The line is where ,does gravity become stronger than magnetism?
artv

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2015, 08:45:27 PM »
Hi Arty

                        just as you say
2 units of force F times 3 units of distance D
                           is equal to
1 unit of force F times 6 units of distance D.
                        just spread out

Convention says that one way or another, the kinetic energy
gained during attraction will balance with the force needed to escape.
                  (not  counting the losses to friction or other losses)

This convention also implys that the work to shear two magnet apart is
always equal to the work needed to pull them directly apart (N to S).

I am going to measure for differences between these two interactions (above),
under some specific sets of conditions in the next few days (hopefully).

Other experiments I have conducted show that they (above) are not
always be equal, at least not under all conditions or in all circumstances. 

I have found that under at least one set of conditions.....

The work done in pushing two magnets together in opposition to their
magnetic  repulsion is less than the work done by their repulsion, 
when a certain change in the magnets' orientations to each other,
(AT THE RIGHT POINT) in that interaction is the result of that repulsion. 

                    (as you have said “the line is where”)

The DIFFERENCE between this work in and work out is greater than, the work
required to bring the magnets back to their starting orientations. 
20 % greater.

                           so
                               lets keep on rockn it !
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Offline shylo

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2015, 06:09:25 AM »
How did you come up with that 20 percent?
artv

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2015, 10:55:37 PM »
Hi  Arty

Well I'll tell you,
check your PMs ( Personal Messages)

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Re: Thin Magnetic Ramp experiment
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2015, 12:18:08 AM »
Hey there!

How would things behave if the sphere was gadolinium?

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