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Author Topic: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"  (Read 56878 times)

pomodoro

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2015, 02:06:28 AM »
You need to measure the voltage across the diode and the current and multiply these two. It won't be 14V, more like 1V. Profits should be telling you this. You are practically shorting the cell with the diode without a resistor. Well one with the new video,  Keep up the good work.

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #76 on: February 08, 2015, 02:59:30 AM »
Pomodoro go away

joel321

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2015, 06:46:38 AM »
Quote
http://youtu.be/WRIp4XZbJzk

Out of topic, is your boiler leaking inside. I kept getting distracted from the steam going up from your boiler.

Though maybe it is just the boiler warming up the cold air around it making it less heavy than cold air. Just in my mind I may think toxic air polluting but it could just be the boiler heating up the cold air.

I have never noticed that before on a boiler. That's all.


jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2015, 07:07:01 AM »
High pressure busts pipes and pipes leak water .....but boilers hold hot pipes. If you fricadeal me.
jon

profitis

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2015, 08:09:58 AM »
Chek out this cell. possibly the watch and clock battery of choice in the future.ten continuous microamps for the last 7days and no sign of halting yet.less than a quarter ml air trapped and completely sealed inside.by now the pressure of this air bubble shouldv come down due to oxygen uptake by anode but nothing yet.

pomodoro

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2015, 09:53:33 AM »
Chek out this cell. possibly the watch and clock battery of choice in the future.ten continuous microamps for the last 7days and no sign of halting yet.less than a quarter ml air trapped and completely sealed inside.by now the pressure of this air bubble shouldv come down due to oxygen uptake by anode but nothing yet.

Not if the magnesium is oxidizing slowly through the 'protective' layer.
 No more from me, I will respect John's wishes.

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #81 on: February 08, 2015, 12:04:34 PM »
Pomodoro no one asked your opinion. because you can calculate it thats how we know its overunity re re

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2015, 12:08:52 PM »
profitis,

im glad you made it to the thread, maybe you can fight back the trolls a little for me ?

Jon

profitis

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #83 on: February 08, 2015, 08:42:29 PM »
 No magnesi in that one pomodoro but the principal remains.if we expect a faradays laws adherence we must expect a certain mass of either gas and/or metal to dissolude. If that law is proven non-applicable in any single galvano demo then somethins up.sumtin good

profitis

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2015, 08:51:26 PM »
Hey jon my fave weapon against critics is a bit of love, textbooks and demo to go.works everytime (:

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2015, 09:57:27 PM »
profitis,i know exactly what your saying but i've now realised that it was pomodoro that has been telling everyone to measure batteries wrong but yet he still claims to be something important and its him and people like him that, are messing it up for the rest of us. its one thing to be a critic but a whole different thing to be a nuisance.
and if nothing else i'm going to make that definition very clear to people

Jon

profitis

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #86 on: February 08, 2015, 10:49:35 PM »
Quote frm dieter: I would like to do some experiments with gold leafes that I got, 23.99 carat, if it' s only the anode that corrodes, what would you try as the other element?'

End quote

How much does this weigh dieter

MagnaProp

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2015, 11:30:58 AM »
Just found this thread. Cool stuff jonfrommanahawkin1. Keep up the good work.


jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #88 on: March 22, 2015, 03:09:51 PM »
I just wanted to stop in and leave the latest update for the Karpen. In short I'm getting interesting data and I'm changing variables and I can see that in the future I'll be making a crystal cell Karpen from this data. The problem I keep running into is crystal formation away from the electrodes changing the pH closest to the anode and cathode.  I don't mention this information in the video however this data is coming from observations I'm seeing from the test I ran in this video.

There will be more sooner then later but if I don't see the fullest, maximum results from one more test I'll be moving away from magnesium and I'll explain that and more in my next video

And I would also like to say thank you all for your interest and support

Karpen update video:
https://youtu.be/OhjQUrCzp8Y

Thanks again
Jon
« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 10:56:00 PM by jonfrommanahawkin1 »

MagnaProp

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2015, 05:49:57 AM »
Glad to see an update. Very interesting work!