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Author Topic: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"  (Read 29973 times)

Offline MagnaProp

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2015, 11:40:12 PM »
Chek out this cell. possibly the watch and clock battery of choice in the future.ten continuous microamps for the last 7days and no sign of halting yet.less than a quarter ml air trapped and completely sealed inside.by now the pressure of this air bubble shouldv come down due to oxygen uptake by anode but nothing yet.
Nicely done. Can you spill the beans on how you made the little cell? Didn't notice it in the picture until now. Only noticed the meter before.

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2015, 01:12:33 AM »
Magnaprop:'Nicely done. Can you spill the beans on how you made the little cell?'

Yes,twas a bismuth anode and silver cathode in NaOH sol but it turned out to be a slow corrosion unfortunately.voltage dropped after a few weeks.back to drawing board again


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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2015, 05:58:25 AM »
Thanks for the info profitis. I wonder if doing these experiments in a vacuum container would help stop or slow the corrosion?

Not sure how one would go about putting these items in a vacuum sealed container though?

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #93 on: March 28, 2015, 10:58:09 PM »
Magnaprop:'I wonder if doing these experiments in a vacuum container would help stop or slow the corrosion?'

It definitely would reduce it.your giving me ideas now :)

'Not sure how one would go about putting these items in a vacuum sealed container though?'

Throw in a tiny piece zinc(when I say tiny I mean tiny like two pinheads).this piece mustnot contact the anode or cathode.it will scavenge all O2 trapped inside the container and leave only inert nitrogen(will take a few hours).nitrogen won't react with anything inside there so its essentially a vaccuum.your cell will have to be damn well totaly sealed,squeeze it with fingers to make sure.please post results if you do this


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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2015, 06:57:37 AM »
Sounds good. Thanks for that info. I've never built a Karpen before so it may be a while till I get to it.

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #94 on: April 11, 2015, 06:57:37 AM »
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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #95 on: April 11, 2015, 09:39:44 AM »
Don't worry I did it.it turns out that a small voltage and current is available with zero o2 in the system but it is not overunity but instead resulting from slight solubility of Bismuth metal in alkali( bismuthite ion).this will simply result in a bismuth metal concentration gradient with bismuth dissolving off anode and plating out ontop of cathode until equalization of concentrations occurs.one has to sometimes pay attention to very fine details with electrochemistry

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #96 on: April 11, 2015, 09:54:04 AM »
The solubility of bismuth is PH dependant.the more alkaline the more soluble so I'm going to try this in mildly alkaline electrolyte now.

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #97 on: April 11, 2015, 10:10:34 PM »
Sounds good. Glad someone more versed than me is working on your idea. I just saw a "lemon" battery kit at the hobby store for powering a watch from a lemon. It'll be my first time playing with dissimilar metals.

Maybe a little corrosion needs to take place first to start the process then you can take to air out to keep it at that state longer?

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2015, 11:24:40 AM »
Going to try it under hydrogen.then any corrosion process should become reversible

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2015, 12:11:45 PM »
Here's it under air.tiny piece zinc in ther should swallow all o2 and liberate h2 soon

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #100 on: May 19, 2015, 06:19:34 PM »
Energy theoretically must come from somewhere so I've done a quick video to explain how and where and why I continue to experiment with Karpen type batteries

Karpen Theory Explained: https://youtu.be/QqbqAxVKyfk

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Re: 2nd law violation:new battery type "poor man's Karpen"
« Reply #101 on: May 24, 2015, 09:34:25 AM »
Both you and exnihiloest are correct @john ambient heat via heisenberg and zero point. Chek this out...pomodoro,ibpointless and vk2zay made it to national tv in europe with their(and my) karpens https://youtu.be/51r2rh4ahc8 .if this link don't work search youtube 'pila karpen inventata de ing. nicolae vasilescu karpen'.I'm not surprised if this is romanian tv
« Last Edit: May 24, 2015, 01:33:43 PM by profitis »


 

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