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Author Topic: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field  (Read 58102 times)

ted.shield

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2015, 12:11:10 PM »
btw.. most of all the underwater clips are mine

What happened to the channel? 



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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 01:11:24 AM »
Maybe he's referring to electron spin: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/spin.html

Electron spin is responsible for the appearance of these 'bi-directional wings'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwc-oBGSGeg

Notice the laser is stimulating the "curved space" around the magnets field...

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 03:24:38 PM »
Let me add this is similar to the famous Stern-Gerlach experiment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern%E2%80%93Gerlach_experiment

triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2015, 02:14:59 AM »
test just wanted a link back to this thread.

triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2015, 02:31:16 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_levitation  I saw a video where a circular permanent magnet was floating over a superconductor spinning like a tire going the road.The whole thing was cooled down to 4 degrees K.that video is not here.But the proof that magnets having a spinning field can be seen there.The link provided shows a flat circular magnet suspended on its flat bottom side.It does not spin in this photo.But turn it on its smaller side and it will look like a tire spinning down the road.


I found proof in another experiment at room temp on u-tube.
here it is   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCSvNyHorgo  spin of wire is ccw.

TinselKoala

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 01:43:35 PM »
In the first place:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRby1Wilv-Q
This does NOT prove or even demonstrate that magnets have a SPINNING Magnetic Field.

In the second place:
The link shows a type of homopolar motor. It also does NOT prove or even demonstrate that magnets have a SPINNING Magnetic Field. Depending on the configuration of the homopolar motor, one can get rotation whether the magnet itself is rotating, or not. In fact, the homopolar motor phenomenon actually shows that the magnetic field does not "spin" even if the magnet itself is spinning !

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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2015, 09:17:34 PM »
...Depending on the configuration of the homopolar motor, one can get rotation whether the magnet itself is rotating, or not. ...

Ahhhhhh. There lies the paradox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_paradox

triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2015, 06:20:39 PM »
Well I gave it my best shot as I had been thinking on this subject for a few months now.In the  homopolar motor the magnet itself does not spin but since its metal plated it is actually  part of the electric circuit.A ceramic magnet in its place would not conduct a current.So no motor action would be seen there.The flow of current would oppose the magnetic field.Since the wire moves in a CCW direction.It indictates to me a possible CCW spin of the magnetic field.It seems that Pinestone may have a better idea of whats going on here.I myself did not believe that  a magnetic field spins around a permanent magnet until I found the two posts I presented up above.triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2015, 08:44:28 AM »
In the first place:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRby1Wilv-Q
This does NOT prove or even demonstrate that magnets have a SPINNING Magnetic Field.

In the second place:
The link shows a type of homopolar motor. It also does NOT prove or even demonstrate that magnets have a SPINNING Magnetic Field. Depending on the configuration of the homopolar motor, one can get rotation whether the magnet itself is rotating, or not. In fact, the homopolar motor phenomenon actually shows that the magnetic field does not "spin" even if the magnet itself is spinning !


Tinkl.....WTF!

Am I hallucinating? Did I get a bad bottle of whisky?

You seem to have written something that is right. How did you do that?

Maybe I read it wrong. I will read it again.



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triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2015, 04:50:07 PM »
Ok if a homopolar motor shows no spin explain to me why a magnet spins when a superconductor is levitating a permanent magnet on its side.Why does it look like a tire rolling down the highway?I have no example here but I saw a video on public tv where they were talking about very cold temperatures(4K and lower).triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2015, 05:00:51 PM »
ok I found the video its 54 minutes long if you want to watch the whole thing but the spinning magnet is shown in the first two minutes.Nova made the video.triffid
http://video.ketc.org/video/2365109000/

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2015, 07:29:18 AM »
I'm not sure what is the real core of the debate on this thread but I watched the video posted in the response above mine, and man you “scientists” have all the fun and make money.

All of that research is not really that hard to do, it's just that you guys are left alone to flower to “evolve” for truth. Which is good and enjoyable for the body. Better than thinking about war and corrupting.

Just imagine what type of living organisms are frozen in universe coldest places just waiting to thaw? Which I king of hit in to a paradox in the brain...there are things going so fast that are billions of years “ahead” of the cold temperatures, there is equal of billions of cold being “slowed down behind. So we have particles going at super heated levels in to the future and we have particles super cold levels lagging behind our present time.

If in the galaxy heat explodes stars, does cold explode cold stars too? The cold must get super cold to a point of breaking point too-  implodes or explodes too, albeit, very slowly.

The thing that I don't get either is that heat goes to cold? now do we assume this because what we believe is that more than 50% of the "know" universe is cold therefore, hot that is less than 50% goes to cold? (if i can explain myself right). Or if we put two identical object to the quantum level inside a vacuum, one supor hot another super cold at the same scale, and touch the two objects together, the hot will travel to the cold first in the two identical objects? But where does the cold go and where does the heat go from both objects once they touch, does it disperse in the vacuum..because i'm assuming both objects will lose energy... but heat will go towards the cold object first ???

Wow, lots of things to yet to be discovered and learn.  8)

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2015, 07:51:27 AM »
http://video.ketc.org/video/2365109000/

In the video at 53:03 “177 nano Kelvin” 49:18 “This is the coldest spot in the Universe right now” I'm sure in a few more hundred/thousand years, if our world or humanity for that matter survives the next “extinction”, I'm pretty sure there will be colder places to yet be discovered...lol...I find these type of statements comical...yes it may be the ONLY HUMAN KNOWN coldest nose pore in the air today, but that does not mean it is STATIC 100% with out a doubt THE ABSOLUTE final no more COLD places out there in the ENTIRE Universe...hmmm...who is going to contradict him anyway lol but that is false.

Just nit picking at the video that's all. lol

triffid

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2015, 07:15:41 PM »
testing to see if this thread is still alive.say something somebody.

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Re: ----> PROOF Magnets Have a SPINNING Magnetic Field
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2015, 04:29:09 AM »
The thing that I don't get either is that heat goes to cold? now do we assume this because what we believe is that more than 50% of the "know" universe is cold therefore, hot that is less than 50% goes to cold? (if i can explain myself right). Or if we put two identical object to the quantum level inside a vacuum, one supor hot another super cold at the same scale, and touch the two objects together, the hot will travel to the cold first in the two identical objects? But where does the cold go and where does the heat go from both objects once they touch, does it disperse in the vacuum..because i'm assuming both objects will lose energy... but heat will go towards the cold object first ???


Well Joel, .......

Cold simply means less "heat energy". And so by definition, the cold doesn't go anywhere, it is the heat that moves.
Heat will always move to the colder object, until thermal equilibrium is reached.
The object with more heat energy, will lose heat, thus making it colder.
The object with less heat energy, will gain heat, thus making it hotter.
But from both perspectives, it is the heat that moves.
There is no such thing as "cold energy". it is only heat that is being observed.


Also: heat does not manifest itself in the vacuum. it only manifests in mass.
in space, there are gasses and dust that can retain thermal energy
but, the general observation is that, the less mass, the less thermal energy in that part of space.
that is not to say that there is not energy. it just exists in forms other than thermal energy.
some super cold places in space are wreathing with intense radiation.
     if we were to place mass in these areas, it would be superheated by the radiation
     and that place would no longer be super cold.