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Author Topic: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch  (Read 26022 times)

TommeyLReed

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2015, 04:11:54 PM »
Hi All,

I will just add a few more comments,

First of all, nobody on these forums can prove any free energy device!
Every time someone claims a free energy device, they should be challenge ASP. All of the claims in the past turn out to be a lie, and this is what is called a liar!

For those that bring up bogus names that nobody can copy a single free energy claim they built, you are a fool and just believing in magic.

This is my opinion of finding free energy:

If you want simple free energy then buy a solar panel, windmill or even a simple water wheel.
Yep, see how simple this ways, nobody can say this is not free energy!

I know their is a limited of sun light and other factors in collecting this free energy, but really this is the best we have when converting one state of energy into another.

As far as other free energy claims, they are either misleading and don't understand what is going on, or just a plain lair!

Respect comes from integrity, most if not all of the free energy claims don't even come close!

Before I get any comment of my opinion, you should disprove my theory of a conspiracy of free energy claims that mislead the mass!

Tom


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allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2015, 04:30:35 PM »
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I'm afraid Tommy is right.  Think about it.  Nobody here can name a single O-U device that worked EXCEPT [/size]SM's TPU, and Floyd Sweet's VTA. [/size]


T.H.Moray and Victor Schauberger come to mind, Paulo Correa and their PAGD technology have decades of compelling research as well. I could fill a page of examples in no time at all.


In any case Tommy's situation is not unique and I would guess hundreds of thousands of people have made half-baked attempts at a free energy device and failed. The thing to remember is that very few people actually understand the concept of Energy, what it is, why it is thus they are pretty much doomed before they have even started. Oh every dog may have his day and some may stumble across something of value after a lifetime of experiments however trying to build something they do not understand is a daunting task.


What I find odd is that many like Tommy make a half-hearted attempt and then when they fail they proclaim with authority for all to hear ... it cannot be done. As if the whole of the universe must somehow magically revolve around their opinions and the fact they failed. On a side note it is said that T.H.Moray worked on a single device for over 30 years before he could produce the results he was looking for. Yet some would have us believe their inept attempt at building a working device and subsequent failure must be proof it cannot be done.


To them I would say... I am not you nor are you me and your failure has no relevance to my success. We are individuals first and foremost and if we cannot think for ourselves then it is probably best to just get in line and follow the rest of the herd. They are not actually going anywhere and I hear it doesn't require a great deal of thinking and can be quite pleasant going round in circles, kind of like a merry go round, round and round.


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ramset

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2015, 04:33:40 PM »
Tom
Well maybe we just start from scratch,I'll concede to your claims on Men and their claims.
But something is running the show at an atomic level..
I just want Milehigh and Mark E to tell me where the Atom gets its ability to spin without end since this big bang
For it is this ability to spin with out end ....or apparent source of power in all manner of adverse conditions
Whether in gravity or open space heated or cooled ,or even brought to a stop....
And it will thaw and keep on going (as will the photon)

For myself this is the elephant in the room of free energy or over unity research
The ATOM
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profitis

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2015, 04:37:59 PM »
Quote frm tommy reed:'they should be challenge ASP. All of the claims in the past turn out to be a lie, and this is what is called a liar!'

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Your getting more short-sighted by the hour
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MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2015, 04:40:37 PM »
Quote from: ramset on January 22, 2015, 04:33:40 PM
Tom
Well maybe we just start from scratch,I'll concede to your claims on Men and their claims.
But something is running the show at an atomic level..
I just want Milehigh and Mark E to tell me where the Atom gets its ability to spin without end since this big bang
For it is this ability to spin with out end ....or apparent source of power in all manner of adverse conditions
Whether in gravity or open space heated or cooled ,or even brought to a stop....
And it will thaw and keep on going (as will the photon)


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Chet is it your belief that atoms continuously dissipate energy?  We have lots of experience with things being able to remain in a given energy state for a long, long time.  Their energy does not increase and it does not decrease.  I'll give you a very simple example of something changing energy states:  Lift a rock from the ground and set it on a table.  Do you think the rock is using up the extra GPE you imparted to it as it sets on the table?
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ramset

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2015, 04:43:31 PM »

Mark EThat is so WEAK."


Please do better
,to go thru a freeze thaw cycle ,  Atom comes to a stop and starts running again    needs a bit more.....
Explanation...
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allcanadian

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2015, 04:51:25 PM »
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Do you limit the universe to con-artists selling phony free energy devices?


I do not believe we should judge the best based on the actions of the worst. Which leads to the problem of separating the wheat from the chaff and who is competent enough to decide what may be real and what is not.


It reminds me of Galileo, no Galileo I will not look through your telescope for if I did I might be judged as insane as you.


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TommeyLReed

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2015, 04:52:29 PM »
Profitis,

First of all, prove to me that you created free energy, then I will believe!

You talk like you know, yet when someone like me calls you out, you have NOTHING!

No go in the hole where the rabit sent you running into a false free energy claim!

Like I said before, prove I'm wrong. Where is your free energy!

Tom 8)


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ramset

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2015, 04:52:47 PM »
MArk E
PS
While your googling for an answer,I. Would also like to know why we can
Bring light from 186,000 miles per second down to a stop (frozen) and thaw it out and it races back up to speed....
I put that on the  over unity "why I'm here " table
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wattsup

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2015, 04:53:38 PM »
@TR

I saw your same post at OUR.

I would like to know exactly what is the base of all your discord. Did something just flip your lid or is it an accumulation of little things?

Also, what did you actually build towards OU to say all this? All I saw was a nice 8 piston gizmo that you obviously put aside after the build off. So why all the crying???? Where have you actually made a concerted effort toward a specific and intentional OU device?

Last last question. When you post things that your are working on to OU forums and youtube, what did you expect from us? Nothing, some help in new ideas, help in measuring, I mean WTF did you expect from us to blabber away like you are doing?

Let's get to the meat of the problem and quite putzing around here. I fully respect your all around abilities in the build section but sorry that you have deployed all the standard stuff we have seen during years and years and you expected a different result, which you did not get and now it is because of us. WOW. I don't buy that for one instance.

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MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2015, 05:00:40 PM »
Quote from: allcanadian on January 22, 2015, 04:51:25 PM
@Mark

I do not believe we should judge the best based on the actions of the worst. Which leads to the problem of separating the wheat from the chaff and who is competent enough to decide what may be real and what is not.


It reminds me of Galileo, no Galileo I will not look through your telescope for if I did I might be judged as insane as you.


AC
The specific subject was the con Steven Mark.  Where is the miraculous TPU today?  Suppressed by the Men In Black?  Grabbed by aliens?  One thing we know that it is not doing is powering either Steven Mark's home or anyone else's home.  Over the past decade VC's have dropped billions into energy projects some of very dubious value.  Steven Mark claimed to have a machine that would print money out of thin air.  It was almost as good as the Fed discount window.  All he would have to do is deliver on his claims.  So where is Steven Mark's "telescope" today?
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profitis

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2015, 05:04:42 PM »
Quote frm tommy reed:'like I said before, prove I'm wrong. Where is your free energy!'

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I'm a firm believer in replication unlike mr E and mr sark and mr libre etc.please consult the karpen pile thread and mimic, copy,rehearse,replicate any one of my shown experiments and come prove to US that you have not got overunity.
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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2015, 05:05:33 PM »
Quote from: ramset on January 22, 2015, 04:52:47 PM
MArk E
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While your googling for an answer,I. Would also like to know why we can
Bring light from 186,000 miles per second down to a stop (frozen) and thaw it out and it races back up to speed....
I put that on the  over unity "why I'm here " table
Chet, you're just full of insults intermixed with broken text today.  If you have a question to pose, then kindly pose it.  You seemed to be asking how motion can occur continuously on an atomic scale.  Then you went off on some heating cooling without showing the courtesy of addressing my questions as to what you believe.  Do you think that atoms continuosly dissipate energy?  To address this heating cooling stuff:  Do you think that exchanging heat does not mean exchanging energy?
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MarkE

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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2015, 05:07:34 PM »
Quote from: profitis on January 22, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
Quote frm tommy reed:'like I said before, prove I'm wrong. Where is your free energy!'

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I'm a firm believer in replication unlike mr E and mr sark and mr libre etc.please consult the karpen pile thread and mimic, copy,rehearse,replicate any one of my shown experiments and come prove to US that you have not got overunity.
Ooh, are you contending that you have conducted an experiment where you demonstrate violation of a thermodynamic law?  Just point to it.
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Re: The Conspiracy Of Overunity And Overunity Reasearch
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2015, 05:08:45 PM »
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Chet is it your belief that atoms [/size]continuously dissipate[/size] energy?  We have lots of experience with things being able to remain in a given energy state for a long, long time.  Their energy does not increase and it does not decrease.  I'll give you a very simple example of something changing energy states:  Lift a rock from the ground and set it on a table.  Do you think the rock is using up the extra GPE you imparted to it as it sets on the table?[/size]


That example is rather weak isn't it?, because the last time I checked atoms do not rest on tables. The particle would seem to have an electric field which no one can explain which came from nowhere having no fundamental cause. The particle would seem to be in eternal motion near the speed of light. When the particle moves it produces another field we call a magnetic field which has no fundamental explanation ie. it appears as something however we do not know what this something is. Gravity would fall into this same scenario as well and while any fool can tell us what it does I have yet to hear any reasonable explanation concerning what it is.


Maybe we could start with something simple Mark, why does a particle have an electric field?. Where does it come from, why is it there, what is it?. I'm sure you have a very simple explanation you might share with us don't you?.


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