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EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2015, 09:15:36 AM »
Something that was really an eye opener to me was when I realized, that the Lorentz force in a generator acts in a 90 degree angle to the B Field, regardless of the angular momentum of the approaching inductor.


So, yes, you're right, certain basics should be recapped, esp. when they are barely understood or misinterpreted by the highly educted because they never really looked at it, but just rephrased some incoherent theoretical claims of the "divine" standard model.


BR

@Dieter,

Yes, if one wants to create an Excess Energy Output to that which one is to Input, then one must understand how to achieve this!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2015, 09:20:24 AM »
EMJunkie, Can you please post the circuit that you said is too complicated for beginners.


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@FatBird,

Please See Earlier Post:

Yesterday I suggested a H-Bridge which is what I have been using. Mine is too much work, and cost, to make it viable for others here. I did start a thread on this topic: http://overunity.com/14566/reliable-and-flexible-switching-system/#.VLra2E0fqUk

I can post Pictures of my new model if you wish tomorrow. I feel this would just confuse people so I am a little hesitant.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2015, 03:55:06 PM »
Chris,

I have a doubt: if one inducer coil is affecting two bucking coils, one wound CW and the other CCW then the induction in each of then will try to create a current in each coil which has a oppositte direction. In some sense the induced current in both coils will try to cancel each other, and then the output will be lower.

I would like to propose you a scheme in order you can tell if I could be right: Suppose that there are two inducers and the in the middle the two bucking coils.  If the inducers have the same poles facing each other (let´s say N-N or S-S) then each induced coil is trasversed by the field from each inducer, therefore the output will add up.

What about an aligned configuration as:
 
 INDUCER (North) ---- ONE BUCKING COIL ---- ONE BUCKING COIL ---- (North) INDUCER
 
 Where both inducers are creating a North pole toward each bucking coil (same inducer poles facing each other: North-North). This way each bucking coil is transversed by a different inducer field : one inducing in CW and other inducing in CCW, the same as the wiring of both bucking coils. With this configuration the induced current is extracted in the center tap.

Could it be a valid scheme?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2015, 06:22:27 PM by hanon »

EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2015, 09:21:52 PM »
Chris,

I have a doubt: if one inducer coil is affecting two bucking coils, one wound CW and the other CCW then the induction in each of then will try to create a current in each coil which has a oppositte direction. In some sense the induced current in both coils will try to cancel each other, and then the output will be lower.

I would like to propose you a scheme in order you can tell if I could be right: Suppose that there are two inducers and the in the middle the two bucking coils.  If the inducers have the same poles facing each other (let´s say N-N or S-S) then each induced coil is trasversed by the field from each inducer, therefore the output will add up.

What about an aligned configuration as:
 
 INDUCER (North) ---- ONE BUCKING COIL ---- ONE BUCKING COIL ---- (North) INDUCER
 
 Where both inducers are creating a North pole toward each bucking coil (same inducer poles facing each other: North-North). This way each bucking coil is transversed by a different inducer field : one inducing in CW and other inducing in CCW, the same as the wiring of both bucking coils. With this configuration the induced current is extracted in the center tap.

Could it be a valid scheme?

@Hanon

No, it doesn't work like this!

Bucking Coils are only used on the Output!

Not on the Input!

Again, I cant stress enough, please study the material I have given: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA

All information was given in the first post: http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg433154/#msg433154

Don't make any changes until its working!

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EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2015, 09:34:48 PM »
@ALL

Reading the prior posts to this thread, we now know How Charge is Separated, Where we have Magnetic Fields; E.G; Primary, Secondary, and that the Secondary is in the opposing direction to the Primary!

We know that the Secondary Magnetic Field is only a Result of Drawing Current from the Charge Separation that we have already bought about from the Primary Magnetic Field Changing in Time!

So, its now fair to say that:

Any Magnetic Field Changing in Time Can Separate Charge

So a Secondary Magnetic Field (Lenz's Law) can be used to actually Separate More Charge Carriers!!!

Green Coil: Input Coil
Gold Coils: Partnered Output Coils - Each Coil Increases Charge Separation

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2015, 11:11:09 PM »
EMJunkie, Can you please post the circuit that you said is too complicated for beginners.


Thanks.
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@FatBird

Some Pictures as promised:

I started a thread: My Cerberus Code. My code is a bit more advanced that this now.

@ALL - Please don't let this discourage You! It does not need to be this complicated, Time Consuming, or expensive!

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-H-Bridge-DC-Stepper-Motor-Drive-Controller-Board-Module-Arduino-L298N-BY-/200991688684?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item2ecc09c7ec

or

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/43A-H-Bridge-Drive-PWM-For-Arduino-Semiconductor-BTS7960B-Stepper-Motor-Driver-/380802365419?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item58a996f7eb

Look at the frequency range before purchasing. Anything from 50Hz to 5KHz will do the trick.

Maybe this: EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180W-180W-2CH-12V-Small-Stereo-High-Power-Amplifier-for-CD-MP3-Car-Audio-Home-/400586923881?pt=AU_Electronics_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item5d44d75f69

I actually bought the small Amplifier as I thought it was really well priced for the unit!!! The above is cheap and if the Frequency's are suitable, these are more than sufficient to start with.

For anyone that has read the pdf and studied in detail, some may see that these devices can be Uni-Polar and also Bi-Polar. This is something I will go into later on as I don't want to complicate the technology at the beginning. It is best to start with and for others wanting to take measurements, to start with Bi-Polar Devices.

Again, You don't need to go to this trouble! I have spent way too much Time and Money on this Project!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2015, 12:00:29 AM »
Hi Emjunkie

Thanks a lot for sharing this interesting work of you!

Is it possible pls to explain with few words what exactly is the A vector and its relation to the e-field which apparently is being doubled after the cancellation of the H-fields? 

Thanks

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2015, 12:18:09 AM »
@Hanon

No, it doesn't work like this!

Bucking Coils are only used on the Output!

Not on the Input!


Hi Cris,

I know that the bucking coils are used on the output. My scheme is about two bucking coils used to collect the induced current. Please revise it again. Forget about the two inducer coils orientation. I just used two inducer coils because I think that each inducer coil will influence one induced coil and therefore the result could be better. Please have a look again. Think about the inducer magnetic field and the induced fields of the whole system. Thanks.

I do not know if you are aware of Garry Stanley anti-lenz coil. He used two bucking coils as your proposal but into a rotary device. Here I add a link in case you want to investigate this:  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5911-garry-stanley-pulse-motor-2.html

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2015, 12:23:50 AM »
Hi Emjunkie

Thanks a lot for sharing this interesting work of you!

Is it possible pls to explain with few words what exactly is the A vector and its relation to the e-field which apparently is being doubled after the cancellation of the H-fields? 

Thanks

Hi Jeg,

The A Vector Potential is the Electric Component of a Magnetic Field. Thus the reason we use the term Electromagnetic Field.

Sir Richard Feynman best describes the A Vector Potential, I have attached the pdf.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2015, 12:57:25 AM »
Hi Chris,

I know that the bucking coils are used on the output. My scheme is about two bucking coils used to collect the induced current. Please revise it again. Forget about the two inducer coils orientation. I just used two inducer coils because I think that each inducer coil will influence one induced coil and therefore the result could be better. Please have a look again. Think about the inducer magnetic field and the induced fields of the whole system. Thanks.

I do not know if you are aware of Garry Stanley anti-lenz coil. He used two bucking coils as your proposal but into a rotary device. Here I add a link in case you want to investigate this:  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5911-garry-stanley-pulse-motor-2.html

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Hi Hanon,

What you have shown is not what I am trying to get across to people! None of the principals I have shown are incorporated in your schematic!

In my work:
1: Step Up techniques must be incorporated!
2: Input Coil must be single standard wound coil.
3: Loose Coupling is best used to see the effects.

No way for an increase in Energy is possible in this schematic.

I am sorry, I have to be blunt here simply because I don't want anyone to get confused. I am going out of my way to try to help. I really am short on time as I have so much stuff on right now!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2015, 01:46:12 AM »
Hi folks, Hi Chris, thanks for sharing your ideas.
Do you think this follows your principal.
Thanks for your intention to help people.
peace love light

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2015, 03:14:38 AM »
Hi folks, Hi Chris, thanks for sharing your ideas.
Do you think this follows your principal.
Thanks for your intention to help people.
peace love light

@SkyWatcher123

I see you are using Bucking Coils! Your Experiment looks quite interesting.

Do you think this follows your principal.

Its not following my work! However, I guess it could be considered a sort of Stan Meyer Vic Circuit similarity - See attached pic

EDIT: On closer examination, it is not too far from my work, still not the same however.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2015, 03:26:57 AM »
@ALL

I have built a small app to calculate the AC Input Power:

Needs .net4.0

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2015, 06:57:18 AM »
Hi,

I think also that Clemente Figuera used some sort of bucking coil in his 1902 patent where the "induced circuit" as he called was sandwitched between two inducers. I understand your point, and it is good idea to avoid deaviating from the concept you have shown

Figuera 1902 patent. http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/docums/30378.pdf

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2015, 07:09:18 AM »
Hi,

What do you mean by "loose coupling" ?

It is that you are using all air cored coils?
In one of your post you said that you used plastic spacers in your proof of concept video. Could you define clearly the required scheme?

Thanks