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Offline vasik041

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2015, 11:53:52 AM »
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My measurements are not up for debate here.

Hi Chris,

I find this quite unfortunate. I can't understand why you doing it this way.
Why you don't want support your claims with real experiment and measurements ?
But instead asking people do their own research...

I perfomed myself tests with such setup and I saw many other test reports. Almost all OU measurements turned out to be a mistake.

Truth doesn't fear investigation  :)

Regards,
Vasik

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2015, 11:53:52 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #76 on: January 21, 2015, 02:20:17 PM »
Hey Chris :)
Great work and thanks for sharing!

I've made a first attempt with two sort of small U ferrites, 60 turns of AWG 30 on each one, in a partnered configuration like yours. Primary is wound on one U over the secondary half with 20 turns of a bit thicker wire. It gets pulsed with 5v, 1khz to 60khz, 1% to 50%. On the output of the partnered coils is a very small bulb. U ferrites are moved to change the gap length, side of contact, etc. So far it didn't produce an unexpected effect.

Could you please tell more on the following aspects?

* Working on small scale is probably a problem. What was the thinner gauge and number of turn you had in a working device not needing hours of tunning?

* In this configuration I can have one, two, or no gap, but only on contact points between U shapes that no coil is covering. In your COP 1.7 it seems one gap is under the secondary coil closer to primary. Do you already know if gap position is relevant or not ?

Thanks!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #77 on: January 21, 2015, 03:24:26 PM »
@ALL,

Why are we configuring Two Output Coils so that each Magnetic Field is Opposing each other?

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Stan Meyer used a similar setup with his charging chokes, he said it was like that 'to limit current', but with your findings we want more current (for more power), only it must not be feedbacked to the input coil (Lenz).

Someone else (user nav) has played with bucking coils before you made your findings known:

http://youtu.be/qT-t6LpYbEc

he made a monopole magnet with it:
http://youtu.be/4T2jyC6N0_g

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2015, 05:18:24 PM »
Hi Em!
Could you give me your comment about these idea...?
Thank you!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2015, 07:36:22 PM »
Hi Luc,

You can see in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

Output Voltage goes up to 5.453 only after a few seconds of tunning. This is with a Resistive Load. Voltage and Current must be in phase through a Resistive Load.

A Resistor will not make any difference to this device, in fact if the resistor is wire wound it will not give an accurate result.

Without doing a rebuild on this device, as it is now parts in a box somewhere, re-building is a bit impractical.

I have however attached a Picture to show the RMS Voltage from the Video I have posted online at the above address.

I am not going down the "Measurement" path - Bill Alek a qualified EE has been ridiculed without any evidence to the contrary. My measurements are not up for debate here.

I am giving people the How's, Why's and the Secrets to build their own Devices. Its up to them to make their own decisions.

I encourage people to use their Common Sense and decide for themselves if this device makes sense and is worth the 1hr and $20:00 to Build and Learn.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Uh-huh. Would you accept power measurements from someone who says, "Here, hook up you scopes to the output, but first, put this 0.1 uF capacitor in series with your scope probes before you make any measurements".  Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek does when he shows you readings from scope channels that are _AC Coupled_.
Would you trust someone who blatantly lies during an interview? Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek did when interviewed a few weeks ago when asked why he hasn't shown his systems to people from MIT etc. He told the interviewer that he was just then introducing the "technology", when it is clear to everyone who follows these things that it is the _same_ system that was demonstrated last year and that he has been touting for even longer than that.
How about trusting power measurements made with _AC-coupled_ scope channels reading the output from a _Hall Effect_ current monitor system that needs precise adjustment and calibration of its _DC_ output in order to produce valid current readings? Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek does using his black box current monitor.

Ah, but your measurements are not up for debate. There is no possibility that you are making any errors in your measurements or that you are misinterpreting the measurements you do make. That is astounding, truly astounding. You are better than any other laboratory in the world! No crosschecking or examination of your techniques and claims are necessary because you are _always right_! Your "OU" claims are not up for debate!

Yet... you cannot self loop any of your supposed "OU" devices. Are we permitted to even ask you "why not"? Well, I already know why not... and so do you.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2015, 07:36:22 PM »
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Offline alan

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #80 on: January 21, 2015, 08:14:17 PM »
we should stop discussing and nitpicking and start verifying if Chris is right, he kept it (too) simple and kept it basic, so no excuses can be made.  :)
If he is wrong, I give up on free energy and go on with my life.
 

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2015, 08:26:21 PM »
Hi Luc,

You can see in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

Output Voltage goes up to 5.453 only after a few seconds of tunning. This is with a Resistive Load. Voltage and Current must be in phase through a Resistive Load.

A Resistor will not make any difference to this device, in fact if the resistor is wire wound it will not give an accurate result.

Without doing a rebuild on this device, as it is now parts in a box somewhere, re-building is a bit impractical.

I have however attached a Picture to show the RMS Voltage from the Video I have posted online at the above address.

I am not going down the "Measurement" path - Bill Alek a qualified EE has been ridiculed without any evidence to the contrary. My measurements are not up for debate here.

I am giving people the How's, Why's and the Secrets to build their own Devices. Its up to them to make their own decisions.

I encourage people to use their Common Sense and decide for themselves if this device makes sense and is worth the 1hr and $20:00 to Build and Learn.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

Hi Chris,

I do understand that you have a resistive load in your video. However, we don't know its resistive value so it's not possible to do any power calculations.
As you point out, you don't want to use a wire wound resistor to do this test either. Please use a carbon or metal film resistor. Also, I don't think cycle RMS is what you want to measure. Just use VRMS.

If you look at all my tests I offer power calculation to the best of my knowledge and ability. So I don't know why you would not want to do the same. I don't agree this is $20. worth of parts. There's a lot of equipment needed to do this test correctly. How much does your input power supply and circuit cost?... How much is a scope?... you have all what is needed yet you refuse to pay $2. for a few 5 Ohm 2W metal film resistors to do the power test correctly?

Something is not right  :(

Please help your topic start out right and reconsider this

Thanks for your time

Luc

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2015, 08:26:21 PM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2015, 08:39:25 PM »
I find this quite unfortunate. I can't understand why you doing it this way.


@Vasik041

Really? Too Bad - I will go about things the way I see best! I am an adult and can make my own decisions!

Why you don't want support your claims with real experiment and measurements ?

Your distorted view of the truth is just funny! I have done the Experiments! I have done the Videos! I have documented my work and made diagrams and so on to support it all. I have pdf documents showing Photo's showing My Work and others work that follow the same lines!

But instead asking people do their own research...

No! I am asking people to learn it, build is and share it! I am the one that has done all the hard work! Spent many thousands of hours and dollars making devices work! Now I share my work.

I perfomed myself tests with such setup and I saw many other test reports. Almost all OU measurements turned out to be a mistake.

I am sorry for your result! Maybe you can do better next time? Maybe I can give some advise, don't give up so easy!

Truth doesn't fear investigation  :)

Now why do you think I would go to so much trouble to document, make pictures, take the time to post here, help others out, ALL Free mind you. Why?

I say to people, if you're afraid to go sailing for fear of falling off the side of the Earth, the flat Earth Theory was proven wrong many years ago!

Kind Regards

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P.S: I started this thread for those interested. If you're not, and have nothing constructive to add. Kindly do not visit this thread!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2015, 08:44:19 PM »
Billiam offers 2 years warranty for his products, I think this tech is real.
I asked for a demonstration of the 'never needs to be charged' Jetson scooter in the Netherlands, and I need one for myself.

http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2015, 08:45:21 PM »
Stan Meyer used a similar setup with his charging chokes, he said it was like that 'to limit current', but with your findings we want more current (for more power), only it must not be feedbacked to the input coil (Lenz).

Someone else (user nav) has played with bucking coils before you made your findings known:

http://youtu.be/qT-t6LpYbEc

he made a monopole magnet with it:
http://youtu.be/4T2jyC6N0_g

@Alan,

Thanks for sharing the links!

This is a very good demo! He has not quite got the configuration working correctly! He needs a closed Core like Stan had, an Iron Bar in a U Shape is not the best.

Yes, Stan did use this configuration! I have shown this in my pdf!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #84 on: January 21, 2015, 08:45:21 PM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #85 on: January 21, 2015, 08:48:09 PM »
Uh-huh. Would you accept power measurements from someone who says, "Here, hook up you scopes to the output, but first, put this 0.1 uF capacitor in series with your scope probes before you make any measurements".  Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek does when he shows you readings from scope channels that are _AC Coupled_.
Would you trust someone who blatantly lies during an interview? Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek did when interviewed a few weeks ago when asked why he hasn't shown his systems to people from MIT etc. He told the interviewer that he was just then introducing the "technology", when it is clear to everyone who follows these things that it is the _same_ system that was demonstrated last year and that he has been touting for even longer than that.
How about trusting power measurements made with _AC-coupled_ scope channels reading the output from a _Hall Effect_ current monitor system that needs precise adjustment and calibration of its _DC_ output in order to produce valid current readings? Because that is what the "qualified EE" Bill Alek does using his black box current monitor.

Ah, but your measurements are not up for debate. There is no possibility that you are making any errors in your measurements or that you are misinterpreting the measurements you do make. That is astounding, truly astounding. You are better than any other laboratory in the world! No crosschecking or examination of your techniques and claims are necessary because you are _always right_! Your "OU" claims are not up for debate!

Yet... you cannot self loop any of your supposed "OU" devices. Are we permitted to even ask you "why not"? Well, I already know why not... and so do you.

@TinselKoala,

Currently: 11203 and everyone I have read is totally non constructive and really is just a SQL White Space filler.

I started this thread for those interested. If you're not, and have nothing constructive to add. Kindly do not visit this thread!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #86 on: January 21, 2015, 08:57:19 PM »
we should stop discussing and nitpicking and start verifying if Chris is right, he kept it (too) simple and kept it basic, so no excuses can be made.  :)
If he is wrong, I give up on free energy and go on with my life.

@Alan,

We got 5 Pages in before this started. Not Bad  ;)

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #87 on: January 21, 2015, 09:04:14 PM »
Billiam offers 2 years warranty for his products, I think this tech is real.
I asked for a demonstration of the 'never needs to be charged' Jetson scooter in the Netherlands, and I need one for myself.

http://auroratek.us/PRODUCTS.html
@Alan

When the price is mentioned like 'Includes tax and shipping'
I think we will have to pay the extra tax in europe, what do you think?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #88 on: January 21, 2015, 09:06:57 PM »
Hi Chris,

I do understand that you have a resistive load in your video. However, we don't know its resistive value so it's not possible to do any power calculations.
As you point out, you don't want to use a wire wound resistor to do this test either. Please use a carbon or metal film resistor. Also, I don't think cycle RMS is what you want to measure. Just use VRMS.

If you look at all my tests I offer power calculation to the best of my knowledge and ability. So I don't know why you would not want to do the same. I don't agree this is $20. worth of parts. There's a lot of equipment needed to do this test correctly. How much does your input power supply and circuit cost?... How much is a scope?... you have all what is needed yet you refuse to pay $2. for a few 5 Ohm 2W metal film resistors to do the power test correctly?

Something is not right  :(

Please help your topic start out right and reconsider this

Thanks for your time

Luc

@Luc,

I understand your questions Luc! I probably would have questions also. I work a little different however. In my eyes, I need to See Proof. Not read about it.

I salvaged the CRT TV Flyback Transformer Core, like I said in other posts!

I cant remember exactly, but the coils when I bought them were about 5 or so dollars.

Like many others here, I already had the test Equipment. I mean, one can not include the test equipment for an experiment in the cost of the experiment.

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #89 on: January 21, 2015, 09:10:31 PM »
Hi,

Couple of questions:

1) Do "partnered coils" have to be made out of one wire or connected with a alligator clip like in you video? Dose it make any difference?
2) Dose the core have to be ferrite core?
3) If I understand correctly you are using 1:3 ration. Did you try any other rations?


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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