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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2015, 09:06:44 AM »
Hi,

I think also that Clemente Figuera used some sort of bucking coil in his 1902 patent where the "induced circuit" as he called was sandwitched between two inducers. I understand your point, and it is good idea to avoid deaviating from the concept you have shown

Figuera 1902 patent. http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/docums/30378.pdf

Hi Hanon,

I agree, it is the same principal. Many devices in History use this Principal.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2015, 09:06:44 AM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2015, 09:34:27 AM »
Hi Hanon,

Good Question!

What do you mean by "loose coupling" ?

Loose Coupling, or some like to use the term Leakage Inductance is basically either a Gapped Core or a Set of Coils that are not tightly Coupled. This could be in the form of an Input Coil that is also gaped slightly on a different Core.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductance#Coupled_inductors_and_mutual_inductance

or: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leakage_inductance

It is that you are using all air cored coils?

No - I have not had any luck with Air Cores!

In one of your post you said that you used plastic spacers in your proof of concept video. Could you define clearly the required scheme?

Experiment is the best way to learn. In the video, I used a CRT TV Flyback Ferrite Core. Picture below (from the Net - not mine) They come with little spacers, plastic normally. Sometimes they are gapped with the former. Its very simple! Keep it simple!

Below I have also attached a Picture of my early device. Blue Arrow = Output Coils - Red Arrow = Input Coil.

The best example I can give for Loose Coupling is Paul Raymond Jensen - Picture Attached: See the gap on the middle leg:

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2015, 09:52:26 AM »
@ALL

Can anyone tell my why Loose Coupling or a Leakage Inductance is necessary? The answer is in one of the Videos posted in the first post to this thread!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2015, 09:58:25 AM »
Hi Chriss

I attach two images for helping me to express my question.

At first image, we can see your arrangement where two bucking coils are in series in the same axis. In this mode we have a self canceling magnetic field. But the same time we have also a canceling E-field as vectors are in opposite directions. The same time, Floyd Sweet said:

“If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E/2 to E"

So, wouldn't be more appropriate in order to follow this technique to arrange our coils as in the second attachment?  In this second attachment bucking coils are the one close to the other in a parallel axis. In this position we also have a canceled magnetic field and the same time we have a sum of both the E-fields. Like Ed. Leedskalnin did in his pmh device where one coil is parallel to the other in a curved iron core. What is your opinion on this?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2015, 10:03:28 AM »
@ALL

Can anyone tell my why Loose Coupling or a Leakage Inductance is necessary? The answer is in one of the Videos posted in the first post to this thread!

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I think i saw somewhere in your videos that is for adding more drag or magnetic resistance to the return path of the secondary induced magnetic flux ? I will check again.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2015, 09:38:08 PM »
Hi Chriss

I attach two images for helping me to express my question.

At first image, we can see your arrangement where two bucking coils are in series in the same axis. In this mode we have a self canceling magnetic field. But the same time we have also a canceling E-field as vectors are in opposite directions. The same time, Floyd Sweet said:

“If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E/2 to E"

So, wouldn't be more appropriate in order to follow this technique to arrange our coils as in the second attachment?  In this second attachment bucking coils are the one close to the other in a parallel axis. In this position we also have a canceled magnetic field and the same time we have a sum of both the E-fields. Like Ed. Leedskalnin did in his pmh device where one coil is parallel to the other in a curved iron core. What is your opinion on this?

Thanks

@Jeg - Your way of thinking is exactly right!

Two Output Coils (Partnered Output Coils) can be arranged in such a fashion that one can work together with the other to be of benefit to us! This way they Increase the Excitation Frequency, working with the Input Frequency and NOT against it! Conventionally Output works against the Input!

To be honest, I have said it before many times, Experiment is the only way to learn! Use your gut feeling! It will lead you in the right direction!

I have attached a Picture I have used a few times and also one that many will debate till the cows come home.

Youre on the right track Jeg, keep up the good work!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2015, 09:41:59 PM »
I think i saw somewhere in your videos that is for adding more drag or magnetic resistance to the return path of the secondary induced magnetic flux ? I will check again.

@Jeg,

No, it's to do with the Magnetic field, youre right there, but no drag, no resistance.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2015, 09:43:04 PM »
@ALL

Please Vote in the Poll everyone! I really want to see what the over all consensus is!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2015, 10:26:55 PM »
Hi folks, Hi emjunkie, thanks for your reply.
I comprehend which setup is proper now.
I'm going to wind a setup on a ferrite flyback core, like your early version and try that using a bifilar oscillator as the inducer primary.
Thanks.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2015, 10:54:46 PM »
Hi folks, Hi emjunkie, thanks for your reply.
I comprehend which setup is proper now.
I'm going to wind a setup on a ferrite flyback core, like your early version and try that using a bifilar oscillator as the inducer primary.
Thanks.
peace love light

Hi SkyWatcher123,

Make sure you have 1:3 step up or more. 1:5 is what Floyd Sweet Used.

Its the Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field over Time. In saying this I have found in my devices Lower rather than Higher Frequency is better however - Currently I don't know why. My Frequency Ranges from 50Hz to 5KHz. Most of my devices running at a much lower frequency than 5KHz!

In other words, Bi-Filar Joule Thief Trigger arrangement may run at too higher of a Frequency to really see results! Just something to think about  ;)

Try to keep your Input Coils impedance at a level so that the running frequency will consume the lowest current for the highest Field, this is why I have found in the past, LC Tank Circuit, and resonating the input to some degree is the best.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2015, 04:01:31 AM »
Very interesting, I've read the document, I really like to test it, but I'm not a very skilled builder. Where did you buy the core?

Many thanks for this. I like your clean, keep it simple approach.

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2015, 04:20:24 AM »
Very interesting, I've read the document, I really like to test it, but I'm not a very skilled builder. Where did you buy the core?

Many thanks for this. I like your clean, keep it simple approach.

Hi Alan,

This is the reason I have not given specific details on build. All Cores and Coils will be different. Each device will work with some small differences. Although the device will work with the same principals, each device has its differences.

My best recommendation is Salvage! Do you know someone with an old CRT TV? Or maybe EBay for some cores.

Small cores don't seem to have the same results. A reasonable size is best!

Even salvage an Old Transformer and experiment with that. I used the I Laminations in the device attached:

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsVSMQqCOM

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P.S: Magnets in this device have nothing to do with the effect! They were removed and the same effect was still present!


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2015, 11:59:57 AM »
Is it possible that the output is always at max, and therefore the input power doesn't change with different loads?
 
Do you remember which Tesla patent has the bucking coil?

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2015, 12:21:54 PM »
Is it possible that the output is always at max, and therefore the input power doesn't change with different loads?

Hi Alan,

No, with no load, or with load it does not Change!

Do you remember which Tesla patent has the bucking coil?

Try Patent: 336,961 and 336,962

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2015, 01:17:16 PM »
Hi Chris,
Do you now understand Leedskalnin pmh? :)

Please come to this forum
http://open-source-energy.org/?board=4.0

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
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