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Offline stupify12

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2015, 10:25:58 PM »
 Hello,

       This coil is not new, Tesla used this winding coil on his Tesla Transformer on the Tesla Book. Together with the detailed construction of this transformer it is very clearly describe on the Tesla Book.

The Partnered Coils which what you call it which actually I think is a Cylindrical form of Tesla Pancake Bifilar Coil.. The Cyclindrical Form Tesla Pancake  (Parntnered Coil) can be driven with TWO Primary but not on the same core, which Tesla design it in a wooden spool, that is why Tesla clearly showed the schematic of this Tesla Transformer with a Dual Primary but not connected in series, will only be connected when the small spark gap fires between the Dual Primary..


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2015, 10:25:58 PM »

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2015, 10:35:32 PM »
Hello,

       This coil is not new, Tesla used this winding coil on his Tesla Transformer on the Tesla Book. Together with the detailed construction of this transformer it is very clearly describe on the Tesla Book.

The Partnered Coils which what you call it which actually I think is a Cylindrical form of Tesla Pancake Bifilar Coil.. The Cyclindrical Form Tesla Pancake  (Parntnered Coil) can be driven with TWO Primary but not on the same core, which Tesla design it in a wooden spool, that is why Tesla clearly showed the schematic of this Tesla Transformer with a Dual Primary but not connected in series, will only be connected when the small spark gap fires between the Dual Primary..


Meow

@stupify12

Have you read the pdf document?

I just posted, asking everyone here that wants to participate to do their homework: http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg433154/#msg433154

PDF URL: http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf

In Video Form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSadMqEnO7I

You're right, its not new, but again I have already pointed this out in the documentation. Its not anything like the Pancake Coil!

Please study the data! It is really important!

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2015, 11:34:50 PM »
Hi emJunkie(sorry for em freak...)
Could you explain a bit more on the charge separation? Also could you post a schematic of a low cost way to pulse the primary coil at the right frequency?
Thank you!

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2015, 01:44:44 AM »
Could you explain a bit more on the charge separation?

Hi Wistiti,

Good Question!

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcGWO_x8tpM - @4.46 on I cant Stress Enough how important the study of this video and other material is!!!

Magnetic Flux as it cuts (Bvl), or in Flux Linking(dPhi/dt), each turn sees a change in Flux Density over time, the Conductor (Turn/s) experience's a Force.

The Force is the Lorentz Forcehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force

I have shown two experiment's to show more information in this area: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kckxzBUxTHg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Enr6_d3yU

Charges in the Conductor are separated because of the Lorentz Force. Positive one way, Negative the other!

I have proven this, in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Enr6_d3yU

Induction does not occur unless the Charges are pushed the right ways! it is possible to push the Charges in the same ways at the same time, which results in no Output EMF!

Please study the videos carefully. Information is not always in the form of verbal context!

Also could you post a schematic of a low cost way to pulse the primary coil at the right frequency?

I recommend to try to do it as cheap and easy as possible. I use a H-Bridge in the video. Driven by a small Micro Controller. I have spent far too much time and money in my configuration, to make this practical however!

Something that may be suitable:

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dual-H-Bridge-DC-Stepper-Motor-Drive-Controller-Board-Module-Arduino-L298N-BY-/200991688684?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item2ecc09c7ec

or

EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/43A-H-Bridge-Drive-PWM-For-Arduino-Semiconductor-BTS7960B-Stepper-Motor-Driver-/380802365419?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item58a996f7eb

Look at the frequency range before purchasing. Anything from 50Hz to 5KHz will do the trick.

Even a simple Home made bridge will do the trick, I personally think its too much work for the cost. when one can get something that will be close enough for $3 on EBay.

Maybe use a Signal Gen to drive the Bridge.

Does this answer your questions?

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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« Last Edit: January 17, 2015, 07:07:53 AM by EMJunkie »


Offline vasik041

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2015, 11:35:38 AM »
Hi EMJunkie,Thank you for sharing many interesting files.
Perhaps you could suggest some (simple) experiment to observe COP > 1 ?
I (and my friends) made many experiments with coils with opposing magnetic fields and so far we can't see reliable proof that such arrangement give OU.
Thanks!
 :)




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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2015, 11:35:38 AM »
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2015, 02:31:29 PM »
Chris,

Thank you for all your good work. I am definitely sure your behind a great concept.

I follow you since months and I have seen your videos many times. Once I saw one great video suggested by you which has such a good comparison that I decided to make a snap of it:  http://youtu.be/rcks2fcpHUk

I can not grasp your last idea of how to improve charge separation. I will be tuned.

I also share your idea that this world will change for the better.Thanks and keep on!!

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2015, 03:11:47 PM »
I also higly appreciate your work. Just recently I asked some questions that you seem to answer here. I'll organize some chips and go trough all your links this evening.


BR

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2015, 03:11:47 PM »
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Offline dieter

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2015, 09:26:57 PM »
I went trough it and most of it I've seen already earlier. Several things I'd like to say.


This womans TTS voice is hardly bearable, why don't you use your voice, which sounds good btw.


Then in one video was mostly no sound at all, but it needed some explanation. (the one with the 3 coils on a straight core, with the bulb and yellow shortening cable)


I am very much interested in bucking coils, but I find it hard to filter out the essentials from the 43 pages, as well as from the video about the same. What is really needed is 3 simple diagrams, showing the 3 possible ways to use the coils, as you mentioned. Diagrams of complete cirquits including power input, output/load, parts specs. Maybe a short description of what it does.


All other info appears more like unneccessary cargo, like credits to a number of FE figures, including Hendershot, who is questioned by many. Also basics, like what Lorentz force is, or Lenz, that's just unneccessary in a tech doc. And just for in case: never use exclamation marks in a technical document.


If you however release a book and need like 100 pages plus, then that is ok to add some background info. (What I do is, I use lulu.com to print my book, buy a few copies and smuggle them into pulic libraries :), using some fake numbers like XY234 45 B...)


I hope you don't feel offended by my comments.


I am as I said very interested in the subject, and also about what you think about a center tap.


BR


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2015, 10:05:07 PM »
Hi EMJunkie,Thank you for sharing many interesting files.
Perhaps you could suggest some (simple) experiment to observe COP > 1 ?
I (and my friends) made many experiments with coils with opposing magnetic fields and so far we can't see reliable proof that such arrangement give OU.
Thanks!
 :)

Hi vasik041,

Just doing my bit for the species!

Like anything in Life, it is really important to start at the start! Experiment lead to an understanding. I suggest to follow my Experiments, or even Bill Alek's or even Paul Raymond Jensen's.

Of course this is all documented in my pdf, I really don't want to keep covering the same data all the time, but;
1: Loose Coupling is required - I used Plastic Spacers in this device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY
2: Step the Output Voltage Up, turns ratio of at least 1:3 - for each turn on the input, 3 turns on the output! On each Partnered Output Coil!
3: Find the best running Frequency

Really important to follow your gut!

The reason I have laied out all the data I have given, is simply that there are a lot of variables that can change things, for example my device may not run at the same frequency as yours, Inductance, might a bit out...

I am really glad you've already seen some results that have presented questions. Its not easy to do! Its a different understanding!

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2015, 10:31:34 PM »
Thank you for all your good work. I am definitely sure your behind a great concept.

I follow you since months and I have seen your videos many times. Once I saw one great video suggested by you which has such a good comparison that I decided to make a snap of it:  http://youtu.be/rcks2fcpHUk

Hi Hanon!

Just doing my bit for the Species  ;) Thanks!

I can not grasp your last idea of how to improve charge separation. I will be tuned.

In these devices, the more Flux Density, the more Charge Separation can be bought on. As an example, in a Transformer, each Coil has its own Electromagnetic Field:

1: Primary Coil - Magnetic Field that we pay for - Input
2: Secondary - Induction Occurs, Charge Separation and as a Current is drawn, Lenz's Law induces a Magnetic Field that opposes the Primary Magnetic Field!

Here we can see that when the Transformer is loaded, there is a NET ZERO Magnetic Field. This means the Ampere Turns on the primary are equal but opposite to the Ampere Turns on the secondary, or close to it. Where the Vector of each Magnetic Field sum’s to ZERO!!!

Our Transformer’s Primary Coil sees Reflected Power (Lenz’s law), this Reflected Power must be compensated for, because this reflected power = negative dPhi/dt emphasising the Negative Sign, and as a result the input Current must increase to support the Magnetic Field and push the Transformer through the BH Curve.

Note: I have deliberately used the term Magnetic Field and not Electromagnetic Field! It is the Magnetic Field that needs the most attention here.

The Secondary Coils Magnetic Field can be used to actually increase the Charge Separation! At the same time, it is also used to reduce Lenz's law effects back on the primary!

A simple example:

Input: 1 Gauss
Partnered Output Coils: 10 Gauss

Here we can see there can be an increase in the Flux Density in the Partnered Output Coils, not because of the Input, but because each Partnered Output Coil can In-Crease the density by Supporting Its Own Magnetic Field.

Experiment:

Take a conventional Automotive Alternator.
Install on a Rig along with an electric Motor.
Drive the Automotive Alternator with the Electric Motor

Only input is mechanical in the form of Rotation to the Alternator Shaft!

Question: Is it possible to get an Output with No Extra Input to the Alternator?
Answer: Yes

Result: By connecting the Field Coil on the Alternator in such a way, either in a short circuit, or connected in series with the output Coils, enough Feed Back is produced to get an Electrical Output on the Output Terminals.

Not Free Energy, but this shows that Feed Back Techniques can excite the Coils and Magnetic Fields can Manifest in the Device with no further Input! The Magnetic Field can be made to Support Itself!

ONLY because of Lenz Law, Resistive Mechanical Force is applied on the Shaft in Opposition to the applied Input from the Electric Motor!

Lenz's Law is Only a Result of the Electrical Output, NOT the Cause!!!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2015, 10:42:34 PM »
I also higly appreciate your work. Just recently I asked some questions that you seem to answer here. I'll organize some chips and go trough all your links this evening.


BR

@Dieter

Excellent, I am glad this is resonating! Any questions, please let me know, I will try to answer. Remember, I am still learning too! I don't have all the answers yet.

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Offline EMJunkie

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2015, 11:10:47 PM »

Hi Dieter,

This womans TTS voice is hardly bearable, why don't you use your voice, which sounds good btw.

I hear your pain. I did this so as people that don't have time to sit down and read the document can watch and listen to it. The pdf is currently the same.

Then in one video was mostly no sound at all, but it needed some explanation. (the one with the 3 coils on a straight core, with the bulb and yellow shortening cable)

When I made this video, I was still unsure on a lot of things. Its sort of incomplete. I stated in the comments, that I didn't want my opinion of how it worked to become the topic of debate. I don't mind good healthy debate but senseless debate is pointless. The fastest way to learn is by doing it for ones self!

I am very much interested in bucking coils, but I find it hard to filter out the essentials from the 43 pages, as well as from the video about the same. What is really needed is 3 simple diagrams, showing the 3 possible ways to use the coils, as you mentioned. Diagrams of complete cirquits including power input, output/load, parts specs. Maybe a short description of what it does.

Glad to hear! This really does come down to "how many ways to skin a cat" - Everyone is at different level of progression, some are starting and may have very little knowledge and others are very knowledgeable. Where does one start, how does one approach something like this? Its hard to get it right and do the best one can by everyone.

Simplicity!

Start small, Cheap, progress from the start!

Maybe this: EBAY: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180W-180W-2CH-12V-Small-Stereo-High-Power-Amplifier-for-CD-MP3-Car-Audio-Home-/400586923881?pt=AU_Electronics_Audio_Amplifiers&hash=item5d44d75f69

I just bought one. Drive it with a Function Generator!

Yesterday I suggested a H-Bridge which is what I have been using. Mine is too much work, and cost, to make it viable for others here. I did start a thread on this topic: http://overunity.com/14566/reliable-and-flexible-switching-system/#.VLra2E0fqUk

Not many people were interested so it sort of fizzled out.

All other info appears more like unneccessary cargo, like credits to a number of FE figures, including Hendershot, who is questioned by many. Also basics, like what Lorentz force is, or Lenz, that's just unneccessary in a tech doc. And just for in case: never use exclamation marks in a technical document.

Same again, everyone is at different level of progression, some are starting and may have very little knowledge and others are very knowledgeable. Where does one start, how does one approach something like this? Its hard to get it right and do the best one can by everyone. Some people would want to see this and others not, like your self.

I really think its important to give credit where credit is due.

Many people will not understand Lenz's Law, I mean really understand it! Many will know of it but not stopped to think how it works exactly! Properly understanding these topics is very important!

If you however release a book and need like 100 pages plus, then that is ok to add some background info. (What I do is, I use lulu.com to print my book, buy a few copies and smuggle them into pulic libraries :), using some fake numbers like XY234 45 B...)


I hope you don't feel offended by my comments.


I am as I said very interested in the subject, and also about what you think about a center tap.

For now, the pdf is on my website is doing the trick. For me, its easy to update and easy to add info to as is needed. Thanks for the suggestions though!

Not at all  ;)

Re; center tap, Always an open mind! It's possible and logical that something like this can achieve results but for now I am going to tick to the basics and keep it simple.

Kind Regards

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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2015, 11:43:38 PM »
Something that was really an eye opener to me was when I realized, that the Lorentz force in a generator acts in a 90 degree angle to the B Field, regardless of the angular momentum of the approaching inductor.


So, yes, you're right, certain basics should be recapped, esp. when they are barely understood or misinterpreted by the highly educted because they never really looked at it, but just rephrased some incoherent theoretical claims of the "divine" standard model.


BR


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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2015, 01:44:36 AM »
EMJunkie, Can you please post the circuit that you said is too complicated for beginners.


Thanks.
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Re: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2015, 01:48:46 AM »
(This is a response to a post from FatBird that has been edited away by him.)

Whaaat?

Imagine the coils as a big pipe. Drop a ping-pong ball into the pipe (one of the free ends) and blow it through with compressed air. Use the same viewpoint as in the diagram above. The ball will travel in CCW direction in one coil and CW direction in the other coil. Whaaat?

(Very clever of you FatBird to have edited your post so that it no longer shows your image and your claim.)

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