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Author Topic: Wolves among sheep.  (Read 14491 times)

Offline sarkeizen

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Wolves among sheep.
« on: January 15, 2015, 04:56:05 AM »
I've been wondering about this for a while now.  I've been posting on this board a few years now and this is the first place I've ever been where people accuse people of being paid to take posts off-topic or other such shenanigans.  Now my guess is that this is just a general insult.  Lots of subcultures have them.

So my question is:  Do you any of you really and truly believe there are people trying to sabotage OU work?  Do you believe there are people here now getting paid to post things on this board?

Or are people who think that exceptionally stupid?

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Wolves among sheep.
« on: January 15, 2015, 04:56:05 AM »


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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2015, 06:44:30 AM »
I noticed it reading comments on news sites during the early phases of the Syrian conflict.  I think the most action would be on geopolitical front but I haven't been paying attention to the political comments for quite a while.  You will not find it on insignificant sites like the free energy forums.

I posted some links on how Germany is getting about 30% of it energy from renewable sources and the push is still on with full government backing.  That represents billions and billions of lost profits for the oil companies and it would seem the sky has not fallen.  Things go extinct all the time.  The billions of dollars spent on film and film processing, as an example.

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2015, 07:15:37 AM »
When the time is right-they will come.

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Offline MarkE

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2015, 08:07:55 AM »
When the time is right-they will come.
That sounds like the tag line to an erectile dysfunction drug.

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2015, 09:14:43 AM »



  The question is "How can you suppress something that does't exist?"


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Offline vasik041

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 09:27:11 AM »
 There are definitely people who trying make money selling all kind of garbage to naive and inexperienced researchers.
Also “proper education” (or luck of education) contribute a lot to the issue – no real things discussed here...and no significant progress made in many years.
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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 04:07:55 PM »
I think there are so many people who think different than others...
some of them think free energy=STFE.
STFE.devices must be used freely without any paid pattents,
STFE. devices bring money to them(money machine),
STFE. devices going to be supressed in orther to rule the world or they wont be,
STFE.subject is good for his healt,
STFE. subject is good for his income (5000 replays may seems that way),
STFE. devices would have a blocade to taxes which means salary for them,
STFE. devices will biring famine to some certain countries,
STFE. devices will biring STARS to our door step,
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Be friendly and honest if you have something good done than others had to be gentle or polite or nice,
but you are the right (good) one they have to act being like you.


Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2015, 07:07:12 PM »
And why not free energy forums? ;)
In one case (snowden) they're talking about attacks on a person and in the case of the CTV story it's about a political party attempting to sway opinion about itself.  In both senses the ROI is small and clear.  In free energy it isn't.  Just generally sending people out to any and all forums is expensive and what's the result?  Undermining peoples belief in OU?  Is there any reason to believe posting on some board does that?  How many people have I converted?  That's right zero.

So if this is my full-time job then I am getting paid for nothing.  Do you really think an organization who has the money to have tons of agents on all sorts of social media really would spend their money so ineffectually?  Want to discredit someone?  Discredit Rossi.  Buy the first eCat - then run a reality TV show with hired "independent" experts and upload it to youtube. 

Done.   FAR more compelling than posting on a board.  In fact if you look you'll see that the government's interest in OU is tepid at best.  If I don't work for the government, then who?  Secret shadow organizations?


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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2015, 08:42:47 PM »
I don't think many organizations would spend would spend their money per MIB words in technical media. I do feel that
business organizations may have MIB departments. ie. "trouble shooters" that they would call if they find their
manufactured devices are showing efficiencies > 100%. This could be signs of manufacturing problems, as this might
certainly be consider negative as well as positive. It could be consider anti-competitive in certain instances. In most
instances non-guarantee-able it could cause specification dispersion problems in Deming type QC systems.
 
Since MIB's are people too, maybe they get online to mix it up at times. The only problems I have is when they behave as terrorists
try to manipulate or coerce people or attack other peoples property to trying to change operational parameters. Many people reject
Mafioso class behavior. I respect people who died for my country in many and various wars and I feel they died so that I can generally
study build and maybe even sell whatever I want.
 
OU is not a common thing and electrical engineers use *lack* of overunity energy to design conventional electronic systems. So it is
obvious that they might object to the consideration of concepts with what conflicts with what they consider important in the design phase.
Variable demand utility style systems are most uncommon, it takes a long time to understand how to design systems that can collect and
distribute energy simultaneously, all while not self destructing. You have to think overunity systems *might exist* before you can do
various serious technical studies. The other thing is understanding how perceptual evidence chains contribute to intelligent scientific
knowledge building.

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 09:48:59 PM »
It could be consider anti-competitive in certain instances.
So someone sells me a 3 phase power transformer and I start getting more energy out than I put in...how does that serve as grounds for anti-competition law?
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In most instances non-guarantee-able it could cause specification dispersion problems in Deming type QC systems.
I'm pretty sure that "specification dispersion" is an entirely made up phrase.   
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The other thing is understanding how perceptual evidence chains contribute to intelligent scientific knowledge building.
I think this either ridiculously worded or again simply made up.


Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 09:50:32 PM »
I'll point out that this thread has been read 484 times and we only seem to have one person who seems to think it entirely likely that there are people getting paid to do shenanigans here.

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 10:41:19 PM »
I'll point out that this thread has been read 484 times and we only seem to have one person who seems to think it entirely likely that there are people getting paid to do shenanigans here.

Doesn't this prove that most of the readers here are shills? Maybe not, but many of those readers could be sock puppets of BigLurk.

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Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Wolves among sheep.
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2015, 10:50:31 PM »
Doesn't this prove that most of the readers here are shills?
That would be awesome.  We would all be paid to misinform each other.  The next step would be to realize this and just start misinforming our supervisors and then get paid to do nothing.

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