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Author Topic: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!  (Read 17937 times)

Offline kEhYo77

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2015, 10:08:43 PM »


It takes little power to operate a relay.  The relay connects the electrical power from the battery to the load.  Since you specify the system as open, we can put the battery outside the box.


Don't make yourself an educated fool pretending of not knowing what an 'open system' vs. 'closed system' is.
Textbooks usually analyze closed systems but in reality one cannot make an isolated system that does not interact with the environment.
So the 'laws' we created to describe interactions are simplified not to include input from surrounding space of a so called 'closed system'.


The battery is a depletable chemical source of energy. OU electromagnetic device utilizes the energy from the sources I mentioned only and those are infinite.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2015, 10:08:43 PM »

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2015, 10:24:42 PM »

Don't make yourself an educated fool pretending of not knowing what an 'open system' v.s 'closed system' is.
Textbooks usually analyze closed systems but in reality one cannot make an isolated system that does not interact with the environment.
So the 'laws' we created to describe interactions are simplified not to include input from surrounding space of a so called 'closed system'.


The battery is a depletable chemical source of energy. OU electromagnetic device utilizes the energy from the sources I mentioned only and those are infinite.
If I present a black box that is allowed to be 'open' then it can have wires leading into it from behind the curtain.  Whether I have a battery there, a power cord plugged into the wall, a wind generator or solar panel on the roof, a diesel generator, or a bunch of gerbils madly driving little generators doesn't matter.  The black box is as you say allowed to "interact with the environment".  That environment can include any power source anyone wishes to choose. 

If you impose an endurance requirement to for example rule out batteries, that seems to imply that the device must put out more energy over time than could be stored by some means.  If one is allowed the infinite space of an open system, there is no limit to the battery capacity that could be used.

If you believe that there is energy to be tapped from some volume of space then enclose some space in a black box and see what you can get.  If you could extract energy from that space without diminishing some matter or energy then I submit to you that such a belief would fit the energy from nothing criteria that you you don't like.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2015, 10:39:49 PM »
Placing things in a black box does not make a closed system.
Getting energy from environement is not considered 'from nothing'.
If you cannot see something it does not mean it is not there.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2015, 01:18:26 AM »
All this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Bill Alek's hair.

Please get back on topic.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2015, 03:52:59 AM »
Placing things in a black box does not make a closed system.
Getting energy from environement is not considered 'from nothing'.
If you cannot see something it does not mean it is not there.
How do any of my examples violate your definition of OU?

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2015, 03:52:59 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2015, 04:17:38 AM »
A crystal set is not overunity. You do input power to transmit specific frequency radio waves to make it operational, a lot of power!
You just do not pay for it. Without that source of energy emitted by an antenna it will not work.

So what exactly are the "OU electromagnetic devices" that you have referred to? Please be specific.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2015, 04:25:24 AM »
So what exactly are the "OU electromagnetic devices" that you have referred to? Please be specific.

I think Bill Alek's hair(stolen) knows more than it lets on...thats all I'm sayin'.

Regards...


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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2015, 04:25:24 AM »
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Offline vasik041

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2015, 07:03:02 AM »
 kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
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 P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VDdkolU1U

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2015, 07:12:17 AM »
kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
 Regards,
-V.

Good to see more members speaking out.

Regards...


Offline MarkE

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2015, 07:20:36 AM »
kEhYo77, I like your definition of OU.
 
 By some reason dear Hero Members prefer argue  about words instead of constructive dialog on the real subject.
 That actually explains other members reaction on their posts...
Common guys, be reasonable, your are not in science academy :-)
 Regards,
-V.
 
 P.S. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VDdkolU1U
The critical fallacy in that video is the notion that the sections he chooses to isolate would if isolated show the external energy being applied.

If one doesn't know what they think OU or free energy is, they are going to have a devil of a time distinguishing them from ordinary things.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2015, 07:20:36 AM »
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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2015, 07:39:06 AM »
Isn't anybody wondering there has been no response from Alfred Lambremont Webre, after Bill Alek copied his hair style ?

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2015, 08:28:38 AM »
Cap-Z-ro how hair style is related to free energy ? Are you on wrong forum ?  ;)


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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2015, 03:06:39 PM »
Cap-Z-ro how hair style is related to free energy ? Are you on wrong forum ?  ;)

Just having a little fun with Bill's new hair piece vasik...lord knows, we need a little comic relief here from time to time.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2015, 05:06:22 AM »
I still think the interviewer did a good job.

Bill

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2015, 06:04:24 AM »
I still think the interviewer did a good job.

Bill
I think it was a good interview.  He gave Bill Alek a chance to put in simple terms his idea and Bill Alek chose to go off on baffle gab.  I thought the highlight was when the interviewer asked whether Bill Alek had shown his little wonder to major universities.  Bill Alek's facial contortions at that point were priceless.

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Re: Bill Alek gets baked at CES!
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2015, 06:04:24 AM »

 

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