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Offline forest

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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2016, 03:42:45 PM »
Maybe that's why the previous not patented device was composed of two towers ?  ::)

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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2016, 04:40:31 PM »
So, as it looks, all electric free energy devices are working upon the principle of the concentric (magic) capacitor. But what if we have only half of a concentric capacitor? Would this also create any unexpected effect?

Example: Working OU device Video from Wesley

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               »again the strength of the field was tremendous«


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               »if you once get this magnetic field - you will be amazed«


Yes, apparently they were amazed. :D

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               »-pain in the part of the head. Felt similar to mechanical impact.«
               »-Pain felt as skin affected when you move your head rapidly.«


Bottom line: Don't use Russian ferrite core for the construction of concentric capacitors. Your head could be damaged.

In January 2012 the yoke page was there, in March 2012 the yoke page was already gone. Today there is still a page named the Lithuania Experiment but there is no trace that the yoke device ever existed. Wonder why. Because they hit by chance the principle of the »magic« capacitor, but although an odd effect was clearly present, it was mysterious at that time what really caused that effect?

Now we see more clearly.

In order to generate the effect the yoke device needs two synchronized generators G1 and G2. Accordingly the Stepanov device seems to work also with two frequencies. 50Hz base frequency (like yoke device) and synchronized 100Hz generated by a frequency doubler circuit.


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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2016, 03:30:39 AM »
Here I have a better resolution of the tower base circuit. I numbered the LC coil windings and it looks isolated to me. I skipped through the pat and I dont see that it describes a spark gap at the top of the described ground plate at the bottom of the pic so far. It looks like there may be something other than just a wire connection there. Maybe the pat description is not telling the whole story on the device.

Im kinda wondering if what I described as a self powered tower may work. According to many other Tesla patents, a spark can be had with a tower of this sort. And if the gap were tuned, probably needing tuning quite often due to weather and other conditions, to spark at a high enough repetition rate, the LC could be kept going.

Im reading it over as it talks of resonance with the main coils and the LC.

It describes G (here below the cap is to the left) as either a cap or a generator.  ???   So why show just a cap there instead of a generator? Seems very odd to just depict a cap as sole input, without any further idea of how the cap gets its charge. ;) Doesnt jive with other Tesla drawings where he would at least show some sort of input lines with at least a simple gen symbol or something. ??? ;)   Maybe he was showing something without actually telling. :o ;D

The tower looks like a self standing unit with no wired input of any sort. ??? ;)
 
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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2016, 05:43:04 AM »
 My point exactly Mags...

 If you look at the diagram I put up earlier of the Tower, well that was from the notes going from Colorado to the Island.

 It is very clear Tesla had other intentions for this device. The spark gap at the end of coil A which is an extra coil setup connecting to the very high capacitance top load. He used special single terminal tubes to disperse the High voltage back rush over the surface area of those single terminal capacitors. Kinda like a Leyden jar. This did two things. It gave the Tower something to collect the recoil from the spark gap at the ground connection. This charged the Top load immensely and attracted the plasma from the upper atmosphere down to the Tower. This allowed the top load to be charged to very high voltages because it was shorted to the ionosphere, which value is at +360k volts as we all know. Now it isn't a true shorted connection so it's value would be less but think about it. 200k volts or there about, going into the ground via the spark gap.

 We know Tesla used the spark gap in his radiant energy patents (figure 1&2). This is no difference if you know Tesla's methods or if you are schooled in the arts as Tesla would say.
"(figure one) "Again in Fig. 19 two transmitting circuits, one grounded directly and the other thru an air gap are shown. It is a common observation that the former is far more effective, which could not be the case with Hertz radiations. In a like manner if two grounded circuits are observed from day to day the effect is found to increase greatly with the dampness of the ground, and for the same reason also the transmission thru sea-water is more efficient.""

 The spark gap could be modified with a magnetic shunt and a special trigger point to get the process started (figure 3). I assumed the spark gap was housed below ground to shield most things from the radiant energy blasts that Tesla's disruptive circuit causes.

 At point G would be the normal Tesla discharge circuit as I drew out earlier. This allows one to convert the impulses into AC via a solenoid excitation via the impulses after point G discharges to ground (virtual as well).

 Why exactly do you think they tore the Tower down? It wasn't because of them thinking the Germans would get it, oh no... It was because he hid this very fact from his financier Morgan that the tower was demolished.

 If you read the text, well don't. It was only to get this past the Patent process. Refer to his Radiant harvesting techniques to piece this one together.

 I think output of this device went to ground and radiated away from the ground. One huge capacitance just like the top loads on the Lodge coils (Tesla coils) of this day. He was broadcasting from the ground into the air as well and could harvest energy or intelligence at will and even using a virtual grounding system with it. The Tower was essentially free just like Niagara falls as and he hooked his system to the very wheel work of nature. The only cost would be building the device, everything else was free just like in Niagara Falls.

 Listen this tower is nothing but a controlled blocking oscillator. It's that simple.. Powered by the voltage difference between the ground and the atmosphere.

 Once it was fluttering away all he did was disruptively discharge the Cap G into a bifilar coil/Solenoid coil transformer and out an antenna or virtual ground.


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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2016, 07:02:13 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture
 


   The electron avalanches produced in extremely high voltage fields may well be the result of K-capture.  This is when a K orbital electron is captured by the nucleus.   If the nucleus has an abundance of protons the capture will convert a proton to a neutron,emit a neutrino and leave an isotope of the next element to the left in the periodic table.  The electrons in the outer orbitals will fill the hole in the k orbital and emit a photon in the xray spectrum.  Tesla was experimenting in what one could call high voltage fields.  Producing many an avalanche.  A fairly new discovery is that run of the mill lighning storms produce gamma and xray photons.  This is a sure indication that something nuclear is going on in the clouds.  I wonder if Tesla at some point in his research became aware of nuclear reactions induced in the gases surounding his coils.  I would think that the probability of K-capture would be greatly enhance by the initial ionization and susequent acceleration of electrons donated by gasses finding themselves near the top load capacitors on his transformers.


http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-12158718

Hey Sparks

Been a while. Wondered where you were.  Good to hear from ya. Looked back at your posts, its been a year.

Mags

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2016, 07:36:26 AM »
My point exactly Mags...

 If you look at the diagram I put up earlier of the Tower, well that was from the notes going from Colorado to the Island.

 It is very clear Tesla had other intentions for this device. The spark gap at the end of coil A which is an extra coil setup connecting to the very high capacitance top load. He used special single terminal tubes to disperse the High voltage back rush over the surface area of those single terminal capacitors. Kinda like a Leyden jar. This did two things. It gave the Tower something to collect the recoil from the spark gap at the ground connection. This charged the Top load immensely and attracted the plasma from the upper atmosphere down to the Tower. This allowed the top load to be charged to very high voltages because it was shorted to the ionosphere, which value is at +360k volts as we all know. Now it isn't a true shorted connection so it's value would be less but think about it. 200k volts or there about, going into the ground via the spark gap.

 We know Tesla used the spark gap in his radiant energy patents (figure 1&2). This is no different if you know Tesla's methods or if you are schooled in the arts as Tesla would say.

 The spark gap could be modified with a magnetic shunt and a special trigger point to get the process started. I assumed the spark gap was housed below ground to shield most things from the radiant energy blasts that Tesla's disruptive circuit causes.

 At point G would be the normal Tesla discharge circuit as I drew out earlier. This allows one to convert the impulses into AC via a solenoid excitation via the impulses after point G discharges to ground (virtual as well).

 Why exactly do you think they tore the Tower down? It wasn't because of them thinking the Germans would get it, oh no... It was because he hid this very fact from his financier Morgan that the tower was demolished.

 If you read the text, well don't. It was only to get this past the Patent process. Refer to his Radiant harvesting techniques to piece this one together.

 I think output of this device went to ground and radiated away from the ground. One huge capacitance just like the top loads on the Lodge coils (Tesla coils) of this day. He was broadcasting from the ground into the air as well and could harvest energy or intelligence at will and even using a virtual grounding system with it. The Tower was essentially free just like Niagara falls as and he hooked his system to the very wheel work of nature. The only cost would be building the device, everything else was free just like in Niagara Falls.

Hey Bigs

Im kinda not seeing the circuit you had shown as being what the pic shows. I dont see any indication that there is a spark gap in series with the G and C. I think its very possible the G and C LC is just a electrically isolated resonator. That is if he intended that the depiction holds more value than the description.

For my theory, and its just that, a theory, there would need to be a spark gap somewhere in the main coil circuit between the top of the tower to the ground, and where you point out, the connection area just above the ground plate looks like a good spot for it.

So as the top of the tower charges up, the spark to ground happens allowing current to flow through the main tower coil circuit causing a mag field impulse which stimulates the G and C LC. Then in return the LC induces the tower coil sending off the 'power' transmission, then repeat, depending on the freq of how often the spark can be generated. Kinda like you said about Niagara falls, this would use the charge in the atmosphere as the down flow of water.

If we can imagine the size of the tower, the C coil is made with a huge monster conductor in comparison, Super low ohm for little loss.

Maybe instead of having the spark gap in your circuit in series with the G and C cap and coil, there can be a coil collapse circuit dump to the cap to keep it going. If that collapse current is quick enough, the cap G would charge as the C coil being an impedance would allow the cap to charge possibly. If that is the way it is intended to be receiving input.  The missing spark gap in the G and C has me thinking otherwise.

Man, we need some farm land to build it. lol

Mags

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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2016, 11:10:33 AM »
Here I have a better resolution of the tower base circuit.
My point exactly Mags...
Hey Sparks

Been a while. Wondered where you were.  Good to hear from ya. Looked back at your posts, its been a year.

Mags
Hey Bigs

It seems this thread now is about one important thing: Don't reply to any post that mentions a concentric capacitor.

What's wrong with that concentric capacitor? Is it indeed the key to a working free electric energy device? So better not to call attention to it? Maybe a new thread should be created that summarizes this subject and hand over this one to chitchat Tesla's spark gaps.

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Re: The 'free energy' spark
« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2016, 01:25:42 PM »

"Maybe a new thread should be created that summarizes this subject"


I would be happy to see a thread on the subject.
Thanks             
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« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2016, 04:45:23 PM »
Instead of writing all over again in a new thread I would prefer to save my time for doing some experiments. 8)

The Swiss Machine "Testatika"

That page says, source of the Testatika replication images unknown. But is it for real? If so, I can see a coil with two red wires inside a metallic cylinder which is connected most likely to (virtual) ground. Kapanadze's cylinder is also connected to ground. Kapanadze's output wire is orange.

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« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2016, 07:47:19 PM »
  Hi Mags,


   Thought it interesting that using Tesla's highvoltage circuits could accelerate the radioactive decay of spent nuclear waste.  Just kind of intuitive is that the odds of k capture and subsequent transmutation of various isotopes would be greatly enhanced in an electronic avalanche.  The gamma and xrays could supply heat if captured in a suitable lattice while the waste is transmutated to stable elements.


  Good to see your still at it.

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« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2016, 01:42:18 AM »
Hey Bigs

Im kinda not seeing the circuit you had shown as being what the pic shows. I dont see any indication that there is a spark gap in series with the G and C. I think its very possible the G and C LC is just a electrically isolated resonator. That is if he intended that the depiction holds more value than the description.

For my theory, and its just that, a theory, there would need to be a spark gap somewhere in the main coil circuit between the top of the tower to the ground, and where you point out, the connection area just above the ground plate looks like a good spot for it.

So as the top of the tower charges up, the spark to ground happens allowing current to flow through the main tower coil circuit causing a mag field impulse which stimulates the G and C LC. Then in return the LC induces the tower coil sending off the 'power' transmission, then repeat, depending on the freq of how often the spark can be generated. Kinda like you said about Niagara falls, this would use the charge in the atmosphere as the down flow of water.

If we can imagine the size of the tower, the C coil is made with a huge monster conductor in comparison, Super low ohm for little loss.

Maybe instead of having the spark gap in your circuit in series with the G and C cap and coil, there can be a coil collapse circuit dump to the cap to keep it going. If that collapse current is quick enough, the cap G would charge as the C coil being an impedance would allow the cap to charge possibly. If that is the way it is intended to be receiving input.  The missing spark gap in the G and C has me thinking otherwise.

Man, we need some farm land to build it. lol

Mags

 Held for reply..

 Anything left of the bifilar coil going to ground is the spark gap addition but the LC is part of the transformer going to ground where you can tap the flow across the magnetic spark gap. This is an added system to extract energy without reflecting it back to the grounded bifilar transformer. You could think of it like a split in a water tube, only scooping out a portion of the flow and borrowing it before releasing it to the ground.
 As to the spark gap to the ground well those pictures go with a report that showed that a spark gap increased the power of the system with better efficiency. This is due to the impulsive nature of this kind of oscillator. This one is the falls analogy that takes a flow already there and flowing and harnesses it in much the same way as Niagara Falls power plant did there.
 Out in space the plasma density is immense. Near earth matter displaces it and causes a vacuum but it is still very connected in some way. That would be the voltage connection.
 There will be liitations though. Thats why these would make wonderful communication towers that are connected like the internet is via nodal groups. Pure digital on and off type of communication. With Amazing bandwidth and range. Yes even off planet.. This is a new type of system that could open our societies up to pure communication and limitless energy for all to use... All completely natural.

 One caveat to this diagram. The right-> extra coil should be horizontal by Tesla's own diagrams. They need to be out of magnetic relations to work right. I might have the bifilar coil in the wrong position as well. The bifilar coil was to be used as a substitute for the top load capacity. So the bottom bifilar should be above and a regular solenoid would be used there to facilitate the oscillator function instead with the bifilar capacity used as a top load with no ball.
 Once initiated this thing should ping away happily till it falls apart from old age.

 Oh, by the way the military has triggered spark gaps as well and certain suppliers sell them to here : http://www.highenergydevices.com/products/three-electrode%20/
 The only thing wrong with em is the life of the gaps.

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« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2016, 11:40:06 AM »
jbignes5, maybe you could make a drawing about a concentric capacitor with some annotations what you think how it works and how it could interact with a Tesla coil and a spark gap. And surely you also have an idea why the D-1943 machine needs two wires (a and b) to connect to the metallic tube.

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« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2016, 02:58:50 AM »
https://youtu.be/2HCMfg96bcs?t=701

https://youtu.be/tASY07r9AD0?t=3139

Is this the effect this thread was originally referring to?  I don't have a tesla coil or I would experiment with this.  I do have a small pile of nst's, not sure if that would work but would need to get some proper materials to build a large capacitor.

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« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2016, 05:09:00 AM »
jbignes5, maybe you could make a drawing about a concentric capacitor with some annotations what you think how it works and how it could interact with a Tesla coil and a spark gap. And surely you also have an idea why the D-1943 machine needs two wires (a and b) to connect to the metallic tube.

Regards ;)

 Really I have nothing to say about caps.. They are caps...

 Here is a Tesla patent on a leyden style cap..  https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-567818-electrical-condenser

 Or even a high voltage cable designed to work with impulses...

 https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-514167-electrical-conductor

 The thing with caps though is that they don't last long and they are an added cost when you could always use the bifilar method to store energy... Especially in single terminal mode...

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« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2016, 07:20:56 PM »
Really I have nothing to say about caps.. They are caps...

Strange. Here you wrote »Capacitors are the workhorse Tesla used!« after posing an article about Tesla and his condensers. And further »So the condenser is the force provider with the quenched spark gap being the activator.« Then maybe condensers can also provide force without the use of a quenched spark gap as activator? Especially when they are concentric?

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